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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? 07:41 - Feb 14 with 7222 viewsDr_Parnassus

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe?


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Straight swap deal.

Get your votes in.
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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 07:52 - Feb 14 with 3719 viewsDr_Parnassus

I’m fairly certain what the result would be.

It seems the most obvious answer in the world.

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 07:54 - Feb 14 with 3721 viewsmagicdaps10

Now or in their prime?

I wouldn't swap them now due to Ayew's age and the understanding on how we work as a club........as players and on the pitch then I would certainly pick Ayew all day over Piroe.

I think Ayew would have a field day in this side.........attacking wise of course 😬
He had a lot of shackles on him as a forward under Cooper.

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 07:55 - Feb 14 with 3713 viewsDr_Parnassus

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 07:54 - Feb 14 by magicdaps10

Now or in their prime?

I wouldn't swap them now due to Ayew's age and the understanding on how we work as a club........as players and on the pitch then I would certainly pick Ayew all day over Piroe.

I think Ayew would have a field day in this side.........attacking wise of course 😬
He had a lot of shackles on him as a forward under Cooper.


The Championship Swansea versions of both.

Again, the answer is obvious.

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 07:58 - Feb 14 with 3708 viewsmagicdaps10

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 07:55 - Feb 14 by Dr_Parnassus

The Championship Swansea versions of both.

Again, the answer is obvious.


Ayew all day long, scored goals, inspirational, won the odd game by himself and was a leader who was prepared to roll his sleeves up and battle.

He was head and shoulders above this level was Ayew.

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 08:01 - Feb 14 with 3698 viewsDr_Parnassus

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 07:58 - Feb 14 by magicdaps10

Ayew all day long, scored goals, inspirational, won the odd game by himself and was a leader who was prepared to roll his sleeves up and battle.

He was head and shoulders above this level was Ayew.


Piroe scored more, more goals and assists per minute by quite some distance over Ayew.

Thankfully the poll yet again seems to be revealing common sense.

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 08:11 - Feb 14 with 3677 viewsmagicdaps10

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 08:01 - Feb 14 by Dr_Parnassus

Piroe scored more, more goals and assists per minute by quite some distance over Ayew.

Thankfully the poll yet again seems to be revealing common sense.


So are we swapping for goals alone now?

Would be interesting to see what the goals scored would have been if each had played for the manager the other played under.

Piroe has potential as Ayew did at Marseille, he was a fuf under 20 World Cup winner so his potential was higher I would say........Ayew has a terrific record at a very high standard.

I think my head will be scratched a lot if it keeps up with the results as present.

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 08:21 - Feb 14 with 3654 viewsDr_Parnassus

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 08:11 - Feb 14 by magicdaps10

So are we swapping for goals alone now?

Would be interesting to see what the goals scored would have been if each had played for the manager the other played under.

Piroe has potential as Ayew did at Marseille, he was a fuf under 20 World Cup winner so his potential was higher I would say........Ayew has a terrific record at a very high standard.

I think my head will be scratched a lot if it keeps up with the results as present.


They both played up front;

so goal contributions is the best comparison, combined scorer and provider.

To give the data:

Piroe 1 goal contribution every 146.4 minutes of football
Ayew 1 goal contribution every 179.8 minutes of football

That’s as a provider and a scorer combined.

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 08:50 - Feb 14 with 3618 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 08:21 - Feb 14 by Dr_Parnassus

They both played up front;

so goal contributions is the best comparison, combined scorer and provider.

To give the data:

Piroe 1 goal contribution every 146.4 minutes of football
Ayew 1 goal contribution every 179.8 minutes of football

That’s as a provider and a scorer combined.


Ayew is well past his best. Piroe is still developing his all round game. At 23 he still has 10 years ahead of him.

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 09:00 - Feb 14 with 3608 viewsGixerJack

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 08:21 - Feb 14 by Dr_Parnassus

They both played up front;

so goal contributions is the best comparison, combined scorer and provider.

To give the data:

Piroe 1 goal contribution every 146.4 minutes of football
Ayew 1 goal contribution every 179.8 minutes of football

That’s as a provider and a scorer combined.


My perception is (it might be wrong) that we spent more time in our own half under Cooper
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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 09:10 - Feb 14 with 3585 viewsSTID2017

If we could have had a choice of both players in their prime, I would pick Ayew.
His all around game was far better than Piroe's although Piroe's goal record for us the last two seasons is excellent

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 09:19 - Feb 14 with 3574 viewsAnotherJohn

It seems to me that the two operate in different roles and that we need to fill both slots. It when we had Ayew we had signed Piroe or an equivalent I think the play-off results would have been different.
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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 09:23 - Feb 14 with 3569 viewsSTID2017

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 09:19 - Feb 14 by AnotherJohn

It seems to me that the two operate in different roles and that we need to fill both slots. It when we had Ayew we had signed Piroe or an equivalent I think the play-off results would have been different.


I agree.
A player of Piroe's undoubted quality alongside Ayew in the final would have been brilliant

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 09:23 - Feb 14 with 3565 viewsDr_Parnassus

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 09:00 - Feb 14 by GixerJack

My perception is (it might be wrong) that we spent more time in our own half under Cooper


Common misconception.

We have a lot of the ball, and while we may technically be in the oppositions half, we are rarely in attacking or threatening positions, certainly not as much as you would expect with our possession.

If we take either Coopers full seasons and compare to Russ’ full season we have the following:

Cooper season 1: 940 touches in the opposition box in 52 games (18.07 touches per game)
Cooper season 2: 877 touches in the opposition box in 51 games (17.19 touches per game)

Russ: 764 touches in opposition box in 50 games (15.28 touches per game).

I read a stat that the player with most shots this season in the opposition box was Harry Darling. That shows how poor this system is in terms of actually getting into dangerous areas.

Our goals tend to come from long range under Martin, more than most managers. Piroe usually has to create something from nothing, where as Ayew was right place right time and the weight of touches in the box made him predatory.

Piroe often carries our whole attack single handedly.

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 09:47 - Feb 14 with 3539 viewsSTID2017

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 09:23 - Feb 14 by Dr_Parnassus

Common misconception.

We have a lot of the ball, and while we may technically be in the oppositions half, we are rarely in attacking or threatening positions, certainly not as much as you would expect with our possession.

If we take either Coopers full seasons and compare to Russ’ full season we have the following:

Cooper season 1: 940 touches in the opposition box in 52 games (18.07 touches per game)
Cooper season 2: 877 touches in the opposition box in 51 games (17.19 touches per game)

Russ: 764 touches in opposition box in 50 games (15.28 touches per game).

I read a stat that the player with most shots this season in the opposition box was Harry Darling. That shows how poor this system is in terms of actually getting into dangerous areas.

Our goals tend to come from long range under Martin, more than most managers. Piroe usually has to create something from nothing, where as Ayew was right place right time and the weight of touches in the box made him predatory.

Piroe often carries our whole attack single handedly.


Wasn't Gixer's point purely about Cooper's team ?
He felt we spent a lot of time in our own half ?
I think that is a common feeling.
Even you yourself said that Ayew often operated as a sole striker for Swans under Cooper ?

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 09:51 - Feb 14 with 3526 viewsDr_Parnassus

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 09:47 - Feb 14 by STID2017

Wasn't Gixer's point purely about Cooper's team ?
He felt we spent a lot of time in our own half ?
I think that is a common feeling.
Even you yourself said that Ayew often operated as a sole striker for Swans under Cooper ?


Nope.

Which is why he said “more”, it was a comparison between the team Piroe plays in and the one Ayew did. Keep up STID, these silly posts just drag threads down.

You have already been told off for it.

I never said Ayew operated as a sole striker? Where? Lowe and Ayew worked in tandem usually as a front pair.

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 09:59 - Feb 14 with 3519 viewsSTID2017

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 09:51 - Feb 14 by Dr_Parnassus

Nope.

Which is why he said “more”, it was a comparison between the team Piroe plays in and the one Ayew did. Keep up STID, these silly posts just drag threads down.

You have already been told off for it.

I never said Ayew operated as a sole striker? Where? Lowe and Ayew worked in tandem usually as a front pair.


Nothing sillh about it.
You just look for trouble that isn't there
You poster that he was played as a central striker for Cooper
Okay so it wasn't lone ?
Talk about pendantic

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 10:01 - Feb 14 with 3513 viewsDr_Parnassus

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 09:59 - Feb 14 by STID2017

Nothing sillh about it.
You just look for trouble that isn't there
You poster that he was played as a central striker for Cooper
Okay so it wasn't lone ?
Talk about pendantic


It was extremely silly neither point you made had any relevance.

What point are you making lad?

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 10:05 - Feb 14 with 3513 viewsSTID2017

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 10:01 - Feb 14 by Dr_Parnassus

It was extremely silly neither point you made had any relevance.

What point are you making lad?


Not your lad or son.
Don't be condescending.
If you can't see the relevance that is your issue not mine

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 10:06 - Feb 14 with 3504 viewsDr_Parnassus

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 10:05 - Feb 14 by STID2017

Not your lad or son.
Don't be condescending.
If you can't see the relevance that is your issue not mine


So you don’t know what point you were making either then.

That’s the thing I was talking about earlier, you just want to reply, no matter what the contents. You don’t even know what you are saying.

Bizarre

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 10:38 - Feb 14 with 3475 viewsBryanSwan

A 2020 Andre Ayew i would swap for 100%
A 2023 Andre Ayew i would not.

That is based on what they would offer to the team and not transfer value, age etc.
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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 10:38 - Feb 14 with 3475 viewsSTID2017

The question is somewhat unclear
Is the OP asking would you swap a 23 year old Ayew for a 23 year old Piroe ?
Or Ayew at his peak with Swans for Piroe in his current form for Swans ?
Or the Ayew that has just signed for Forest for Piroe as he is now ?
23yo for 23yo - Ayew undoubtedly
Ayew at his peak for Piroe ? Ayew undoubtedly
Ayew that has just signed for Forest or Piroe now ? Piroe undoubtedly.
I think the OP needs to quantify what he means?

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 10:40 - Feb 14 with 3464 viewsDr_Parnassus

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 07:55 - Feb 14 by Dr_Parnassus

The Championship Swansea versions of both.

Again, the answer is obvious.


Read the thread STID.

Stop boring people with replies that mean nothing.

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 10:52 - Feb 14 with 3454 viewsSTID2017

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 10:40 - Feb 14 by Dr_Parnassus

Read the thread STID.

Stop boring people with replies that mean nothing.


You are the only one complaining.
Should have made your poll clearer then wouldn't need to be clarified

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 10:54 - Feb 14 with 3450 viewsSTID2017

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 07:55 - Feb 14 by Dr_Parnassus

The Championship Swansea versions of both.

Again, the answer is obvious.


Not obvious at all.
Just your opinion

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Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 11:02 - Feb 14 with 3439 viewsDr_Parnassus

Would you swap Ayew for Piroe? on 10:52 - Feb 14 by STID2017

You are the only one complaining.
Should have made your poll clearer then wouldn't need to be clarified


Where was the complaint?

I am advising you to stop being boring with your silly replies.

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