| Widow Krankie resigning? 10:04 - Feb 15 with 13262 views | A_Fans_Dad |
It appears Sturgeon is going. |  | | |  |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 19:33 - Apr 6 with 1226 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 15:18 - Apr 6 by Whiterockin |
My wife doesn't know everything I do, does yours.  |
Everything important, yes. | | | |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 22:24 - Apr 6 with 1154 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 07:06 - Feb 17 by felixstowe_jack |
I think you will find it was the war time coalition government that agree to set up the NHS after the war. It was not set up by one man. The myth surrounding Nye Bevan seems to keep growing no matter that it is not true. Even the NHS he invisaged was limited with free heath care for those who could not afford it while those who could afford to pay would continue to pay.
A record independent report has shown the NHSVis Badley managed by poor quality managed with billions wasted
It is in need of radical reform but no political party has the courage to do it . The NHS is falling badly across the whole UK particularly in the devolved countries . |
It was Nye, our modern welsh hero.
And I bet that kills you to read.
It was said …..
‘ Aneurin Bevan, who was born in Tredegar, took the Workmen’s Medical Aid Society as his inspiration for the NHS, saying: “All I am doing is extending to the entire population of Britain the benefits we had in Tredegar for a generation or more. We are going to ‘Tredegarise’ you.”
Get it right up ye ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿â¤ï¸
You are just a blowhard. |  |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 22:34 - Apr 6 with 1150 views | raynor94 |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 22:24 - Apr 6 by Kilkennyjack |
It was Nye, our modern welsh hero.
And I bet that kills you to read.
It was said …..
‘ Aneurin Bevan, who was born in Tredegar, took the Workmen’s Medical Aid Society as his inspiration for the NHS, saying: “All I am doing is extending to the entire population of Britain the benefits we had in Tredegar for a generation or more. We are going to ‘Tredegarise’ you.”
Get it right up ye ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿â¤ï¸
You are just a blowhard. |
The plastic Irishman getting it wrong again, you really should take more heed of Felixstowe |  |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 07:05 - Apr 7 with 1128 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 22:24 - Apr 6 by Kilkennyjack |
It was Nye, our modern welsh hero.
And I bet that kills you to read.
It was said …..
‘ Aneurin Bevan, who was born in Tredegar, took the Workmen’s Medical Aid Society as his inspiration for the NHS, saying: “All I am doing is extending to the entire population of Britain the benefits we had in Tredegar for a generation or more. We are going to ‘Tredegarise’ you.”
Get it right up ye ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿â¤ï¸
You are just a blowhard. |
Still going off post what a surprise.
Harking back on the NHS which was agreed by the War Time coalition government. Just Google it as you seem so fond of Google. As labour won the 1945 general election it was left to them to implement. Bevin's geat idea was that those who could not afford heath care would pay into an insurance fund , NI, and receive free treatment. He also invisaged that the rich would could to pay for their own treatment.
Unfortunately the NHS has morphed into free for everyone, even visitors and tourists.
No other country implement the UK model and in nearly all EU countries people have to pay an initial fee to visit doctors and visitors are expected to pay in full for their treatment.
Can you stick to topic the clue is in the title,
"Widow Krankie resigning? "
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 07:58 - Apr 7 with 1115 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 22:24 - Apr 6 by Kilkennyjack |
It was Nye, our modern welsh hero.
And I bet that kills you to read.
It was said …..
‘ Aneurin Bevan, who was born in Tredegar, took the Workmen’s Medical Aid Society as his inspiration for the NHS, saying: “All I am doing is extending to the entire population of Britain the benefits we had in Tredegar for a generation or more. We are going to ‘Tredegarise’ you.”
Get it right up ye ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿â¤ï¸
You are just a blowhard. |
I think every town village and city lies awake every night longing for the day they can be like Tredegar. |  |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 09:39 - Apr 7 with 1096 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 07:58 - Apr 7 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I think every town village and city lies awake every night longing for the day they can be like Tredegar. |
Are you suggesting that free healthcare at the point of need, irrespective of a persons wealth is somehow unimportant ?
Nye had seen the suffering in the mines first hand and he did something about it.
He was right about the Tory party 🀠| |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 09:43 - Apr 7 with 1095 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 22:34 - Apr 6 by raynor94 |
The plastic Irishman getting it wrong again, you really should take more heed of Felixstowe |
Felix must be delighted to have a fan boy.
The rest of us just laugh at him.
I would love him to be in the 20 hour queue at Dover today. His Brexit created that.
And the small boats keep arriving.
The UK is an international joke. | |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 09:50 - Apr 7 with 1086 views | raynor94 |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 09:43 - Apr 7 by Kilkennyjack |
Felix must be delighted to have a fan boy.
The rest of us just laugh at him.
I would love him to be in the 20 hour queue at Dover today. His Brexit created that.
And the small boats keep arriving.
The UK is an international joke. |
As you well know you are known as the board Div, and are treated like a clown over how many times you get things wrong
Again why do you want to live in a Country you despise so much? | |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 09:58 - Apr 7 with 1080 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 09:39 - Apr 7 by Kilkennyjack |
Are you suggesting that free healthcare at the point of need, irrespective of a persons wealth is somehow unimportant ?
Nye had seen the suffering in the mines first hand and he did something about it.
He was right about the Tory party 🀠|
It’s not free though is it? We all pay thousands of pounds every year for it for most of our lives. | |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 10:00 - Apr 7 with 1079 views | onehunglow |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 07:58 - Apr 7 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I think every town village and city lies awake every night longing for the day they can be like Tredegar. |
Ouch.
That is a stinger .
It’s a knockout blow frankly.
Bevan was not the angel valley children have been brought up to believe he was .
Not exactly one to trust with the security of the Nation | |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 10:05 - Apr 7 with 1078 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 09:50 - Apr 7 by raynor94 |
As you well know you are known as the board Div, and are treated like a clown over how many times you get things wrong
Again why do you want to live in a Country you despise so much? |
Are you sticking up for the party of government who partied, lied, crashed the economy, demonised minorities, wont pay the nurses and doctors a fair wage, lied more, nobbled the bbc and the HoL, lied more, had corruption during the pandemic, passed anti-union laws, and robbed millions off wales for hs2…? Is that your uk ? 🇬🇧
The real patriots stand up to all that BS and want a different better uk. One that works hard for its people and delivers more than 3 word empty sound-bites for the divs. You know old fashioned British democratic values. Thats my uk 🇬🇧. And it should be yours as well.
Ps - your version of the uk sounds more than a little like 1930’s Germany, and i thought we had 2 world wars to sort this out already. You lost. Twice. | |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 10:09 - Apr 7 with 1073 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 09:58 - Apr 7 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It’s not free though is it? We all pay thousands of pounds every year for it for most of our lives. |
Thats why i said ‘free at the point of need’.
Nobody checks your wallet before treating you.
I am very pleased to have paid in all my working life, like everyone else, and i hope its helped many people in their hour of need.
I hope you feel exactly the same. | |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 10:15 - Apr 7 with 1070 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 10:00 - Apr 7 by onehunglow |
Ouch.
That is a stinger .
It’s a knockout blow frankly.
Bevan was not the angel valley children have been brought up to believe he was .
Not exactly one to trust with the security of the Nation |
Load of old baloney that.
Yes you could trust Nye, its former PM posh boy Johnson who took millions in Russian donations that you need not to trust. And then he delivered Brexit for Putin.
Wake the feck up OHL. | |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 10:41 - Apr 7 with 1056 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 22:24 - Apr 6 by Kilkennyjack |
It was Nye, our modern welsh hero.
And I bet that kills you to read.
It was said …..
‘ Aneurin Bevan, who was born in Tredegar, took the Workmen’s Medical Aid Society as his inspiration for the NHS, saying: “All I am doing is extending to the entire population of Britain the benefits we had in Tredegar for a generation or more. We are going to ‘Tredegarise’ you.”
Get it right up ye ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿â¤ï¸
You are just a blowhard. |
I know it's hard for you to believe real facts when they go against what you want to believe but here you go, The Beveridge report, Henry Willink amongst a long list of people who wanted an NHS before Bevan got near it,
https://www.historic-uk.com/Hi
That's not to say Bevan didn't do a great thing BUT it wasn't his original idea and he didn't do it alone, from scratch. | | | |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 10:41 - Apr 7 with 1055 views | raynor94 |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 10:09 - Apr 7 by Kilkennyjack |
Thats why i said ‘free at the point of need’.
Nobody checks your wallet before treating you.
I am very pleased to have paid in all my working life, like everyone else, and i hope its helped many people in their hour of need.
I hope you feel exactly the same. |
You worked all your life!
Please tell us more | |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 11:02 - Apr 7 with 1052 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 10:15 - Apr 7 by Kilkennyjack |
Load of old baloney that.
Yes you could trust Nye, its former PM posh boy Johnson who took millions in Russian donations that you need not to trust. And then he delivered Brexit for Putin.
Wake the feck up OHL. |
Bevan studied Marxism, he was often in trouble in the labour party and at one point he survived a vote to getrid of him by 70 votes to 61.
He liked this quote, he used it,
"The redeeming feature of war is that it puts a nation to the test. As exposure to the atmosphere reduces all mummies to instant dissolution, so war passes supreme judgment upon social systems that have outlived their vitality"
which is by Marx.
Are you a fan of Corbyn, Kilkenny? Because in todays world Bevan would be as far left as Corbyn and would probably suffer the same fate, rejection by the vast majority.
That's not to say he didnt do good but much of what he believed has been rejected by the majority in the modern UK because it's too far left. | | | |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 12:32 - Apr 7 with 1014 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 10:09 - Apr 7 by Kilkennyjack |
Thats why i said ‘free at the point of need’.
Nobody checks your wallet before treating you.
I am very pleased to have paid in all my working life, like everyone else, and i hope its helped many people in their hour of need.
I hope you feel exactly the same. |
“It’s free at the point of need” is just a slogan really. It means nothing. Private healthcare is often free at the point of need too.
No point in the NHS being free at the point of need when you’re told the nearest ambulance is ten hours away whilst your father is dying of a heart attack on the floor is it? | |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 12:43 - Apr 7 with 1003 views | Whiterockin |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 12:32 - Apr 7 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
“It’s free at the point of need” is just a slogan really. It means nothing. Private healthcare is often free at the point of need too.
No point in the NHS being free at the point of need when you’re told the nearest ambulance is ten hours away whilst your father is dying of a heart attack on the floor is it? |
Or you have a 5 year wait for an operation, but you can have it in 6 weeks if you pay private. Often by the same surgeon. Free my @rse, the system in broken and needs a complete rethink. |  | | |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 12:53 - Apr 7 with 990 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 12:43 - Apr 7 by Whiterockin |
Or you have a 5 year wait for an operation, but you can have it in 6 weeks if you pay private. Often by the same surgeon. Free my @rse, the system in broken and needs a complete rethink. |
Private health is a tremendous for people who work hard and save. I use it when I need it.
My TV is quite small my car is modest and i have built up a modest pension. I am not waiting for the most important aspect of my being. My health. |  |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 17:43 - Apr 7 with 946 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 09:39 - Apr 7 by Kilkennyjack |
Are you suggesting that free healthcare at the point of need, irrespective of a persons wealth is somehow unimportant ?
Nye had seen the suffering in the mines first hand and he did something about it.
He was right about the Tory party 🀠|
Of course people who cannot afford heath care should have it supplied by the Government.
It is the visitors and tourist that have free treatments in the UK that is wrong. Try getting free medical care if you visit the without insurance. Even when we were in the EU you still had to pay to visit a doctor and any treatment was charged to the UK government. | |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 17:46 - Apr 7 with 936 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 09:43 - Apr 7 by Kilkennyjack |
Felix must be delighted to have a fan boy.
The rest of us just laugh at him.
I would love him to be in the 20 hour queue at Dover today. His Brexit created that.
And the small boats keep arriving.
The UK is an international joke. |
Perhaps you enjoy being in the huge queues for the Brynglas tunnels yesterday? Was that caused by Brexit, high volumes of Easter traffic or chronic lack of investment by the Welsh Government in the M4 relief road vital to the Welsh economy. | |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 21:15 - Apr 7 with 869 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 12:43 - Apr 7 by Whiterockin |
Or you have a 5 year wait for an operation, but you can have it in 6 weeks if you pay private. Often by the same surgeon. Free my @rse, the system in broken and needs a complete rethink. |
I waited 5yrs 3 months for my hip operation, the very same surgeon would have done it in 2 months if I'd had 16k to spare.
When I went on the list I was told it was 12-15 months and it took over 5 years, if they're being told 5 years now it'll be more like 6-8.
I love the NHS, my wife and sister both work/worked there but it is broken and I have absolutely zero faith that either tory or Labour can fix it. A tipping point has been reached in my opinion. | | | |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 22:13 - Apr 7 with 845 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 12:32 - Apr 7 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
“It’s free at the point of need” is just a slogan really. It means nothing. Private healthcare is often free at the point of need too.
No point in the NHS being free at the point of need when you’re told the nearest ambulance is ten hours away whilst your father is dying of a heart attack on the floor is it? |
Yes, glad you have backed down.
I agree that our free at the point of need NHS should be properly funded.
The Tory plan is to underfund it, watch it fail, and then privatise it.
Know your enemy. | |
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| Widow Krankie resigning? on 22:39 - Apr 7 with 838 views | Ohyeah |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 22:13 - Apr 7 by Kilkennyjack |
Yes, glad you have backed down.
I agree that our free at the point of need NHS should be properly funded.
The Tory plan is to underfund it, watch it fail, and then privatise it.
Know your enemy. |
You are an absolute Kn_bh3ad....
Go live in your beloved EU then...... | | | |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 08:25 - Apr 8 with 818 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Widow Krankie resigning? on 22:13 - Apr 7 by Kilkennyjack |
Yes, glad you have backed down.
I agree that our free at the point of need NHS should be properly funded.
The Tory plan is to underfund it, watch it fail, and then privatise it.
Know your enemy. |
He is just reminding you the NHS was set up after the Beveridge report was published in 1942 by the coalition government.
Just in case you are still unclear Nye Bevan did not write the Beveridge report.
Not sure what this has to do with Krankie. Can you try to stick to the topic of the post. | |
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