| Senedd election 2026 09:33 - Oct 13 with 6049 views | trampie |
Wales need a Plaid win to keep Reform out so looking at it for Plaid to be the biggest party they could well do with the Tories winning Monmouthshire and the Lib-Dems winning Breconshire (not sure what they call those areas these days) and Labour winning seats in say Swansea and Bridgend.
Plaid can realistically in the main only win their heartland seats and hope to win the odd valley seat and possibly one seat in Cardiff, across the rest of Wales it will probably suit Plaid if Labour, Conservatives and Lib-Dems win seats (to prevent Reform from winning those seats) where Plaid have no chance. |  |
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| Senedd election 2026 on 23:17 - Oct 19 with 1010 views | Brake20 |
| Senedd election 2026 on 14:44 - Oct 19 by Boundy |
What out of that list is incorrect? If you care to type into the UK government website on what an asylum seeker can claim then maybe re-evaluate your responses . |
Your original post said illegal immigrants now you are referring to asylum seekers .
There is a difference |  | | |
| Senedd election 2026 on 23:24 - Oct 19 with 991 views | Boundy |
| Senedd election 2026 on 23:17 - Oct 19 by Brake20 |
Your original post said illegal immigrants now you are referring to asylum seekers .
There is a difference |
No there's not just difference methods of getting here because they'll both want the same goal. ,but you know that but chose to be pedantic.
I have no issues ith those who come here through official means the others can jog on ,now is that clear enough for you ,yet another placard waving refugees welcome who care not one iota for us who have to pay for your virtue signalling . | |
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| Senedd election 2026 on 17:10 - Oct 21 with 837 views | AnotherJohn |
| Senedd election 2026 on 23:17 - Oct 19 by Brake20 |
Your original post said illegal immigrants now you are referring to asylum seekers .
There is a difference |
The term illegal is ambiguous. The 2022 Nationality and Borders Act makes it clear that irregular entry and arrival are illegal. The 1951 UN Convention mentions "illegal entry or presence", but provides a path for asylum seekers to regularise their position if they present themselves to the authorities without delay. Understandably, many people think it is fair to refer to cross channel asylum seekers as people who entered illegally, which the 2022 Act says is indeed the case.
However, the term illegal is also used to refer to persons who entered and did not present themselves to the authorities or do not meet other criteria for refugee status, and also refused asylum seekers who resist being removed.
It is true that this latter group mostly get fewer benefits that current asylum seekers, but most of them still get something, They all get urgent NHS care, and those who have Home Office protection or fall into exempt groups (like victims of human trafficking) get the same NHS care as the general population. The same applies in varying degrees to accommodation and subsistence. Perhaps Brake20 can explain what he means by illegal and how people in that position get less. Does he just mean people who enter and disappear into the grey economy? | | | |
| Senedd election 2026 on 17:30 - Oct 21 with 819 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Senedd election 2026 on 17:10 - Oct 21 by AnotherJohn |
The term illegal is ambiguous. The 2022 Nationality and Borders Act makes it clear that irregular entry and arrival are illegal. The 1951 UN Convention mentions "illegal entry or presence", but provides a path for asylum seekers to regularise their position if they present themselves to the authorities without delay. Understandably, many people think it is fair to refer to cross channel asylum seekers as people who entered illegally, which the 2022 Act says is indeed the case.
However, the term illegal is also used to refer to persons who entered and did not present themselves to the authorities or do not meet other criteria for refugee status, and also refused asylum seekers who resist being removed.
It is true that this latter group mostly get fewer benefits that current asylum seekers, but most of them still get something, They all get urgent NHS care, and those who have Home Office protection or fall into exempt groups (like victims of human trafficking) get the same NHS care as the general population. The same applies in varying degrees to accommodation and subsistence. Perhaps Brake20 can explain what he means by illegal and how people in that position get less. Does he just mean people who enter and disappear into the grey economy? |
This is a huge part of the problem isn’t it? What should take precedence? The 2022 nationality and borders act or the 1951 UN convention? It seems we are constantly hamstrung on dealing with any sort of issue because of the various international agreements and courts we have signed up to, often with the very best of intentions but the world has moved on and the laws haven’t.
The huge majority of people coming in are not refugees or asylum seekers, there is a massive exploitation of the human rights legislation that was well meaning but is now utterly unfit for purpose. There are lots of examples of people claiming they were completely unsafe and persecuted in their home countries and faced death etc but the moment they get uk citizenship they go on holiday back to those countries to visit their family. Lots pretend to be children, or gay or spin all sorts of stories to get accepted. They know our hands are tied and they are taking full advantage. Good luck to them, all they want is a better life. It’s the system that drastically needs to change. |  |
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| Senedd election 2026 on 18:01 - Oct 23 with 709 views | majorraglan |
| Senedd election 2026 on 18:34 - Oct 18 by Boundy |
Nothing as long as it doesn't discriminate against those who work and pay towards those who enter the country illegally then expect free handouts , such as money , accommodation, health care 24 7 . |
The Nation of Sanctuary scheme has cost £55m over 6 years ( March 2019 to March 2025) and some of the money has come from the EU even though we are no longer a member.
Most of the individuals assisted by the “Nation of Sanctuary” scheme were actually Ukrainian refugees who left the Ukraine after the Russian invasion. They would have arrived here legally.
I’m not condoning illegal migration for 1 minute, but the numbers arriving by boat is less that 5% of the total number arriving in the U.K.
Of the 1,218,000 immigrants who came to the UK in 2023, only 126,000 were citizens of EU member states. | | | |
| Senedd election 2026 on 05:52 - Oct 24 with 605 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Senedd election 2026 on 18:01 - Oct 23 by majorraglan |
The Nation of Sanctuary scheme has cost £55m over 6 years ( March 2019 to March 2025) and some of the money has come from the EU even though we are no longer a member.
Most of the individuals assisted by the “Nation of Sanctuary” scheme were actually Ukrainian refugees who left the Ukraine after the Russian invasion. They would have arrived here legally.
I’m not condoning illegal migration for 1 minute, but the numbers arriving by boat is less that 5% of the total number arriving in the U.K.
Of the 1,218,000 immigrants who came to the UK in 2023, only 126,000 were citizens of EU member states. |
Labour managed only 11% of the vote in Caerphilly on a turn our if over 50%. The first time there has ever been a 50% turn out in a Senedd bi election.
Looks like Labour will be wiped our in May despite trying to rig the election system in Wales by their list system and giving votes to children. | |
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| Senedd election 2026 on 06:30 - Oct 24 with 572 views | majorraglan |
| Senedd election 2026 on 05:52 - Oct 24 by felixstowe_jack |
Labour managed only 11% of the vote in Caerphilly on a turn our if over 50%. The first time there has ever been a 50% turn out in a Senedd bi election.
Looks like Labour will be wiped our in May despite trying to rig the election system in Wales by their list system and giving votes to children. |
Labour deserve to be “wiped out” at the polls next May for their abject performance, but extending the vote to 16 year olds is far more democratic than trying to disenfranchise a vast number of electorate who don’t have photographic id on the pretext of clamping down on voter fraud when voter fraud wasn’t even an issue. [Post edited 25 Oct 14:44]
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| Senedd election 2026 on 07:18 - Oct 24 with 513 views | SgorioFruit |
Da iawn bois bach |  |
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| Senedd election 2026 on 07:18 - Oct 24 with 513 views | Gwyn737 |
| Senedd election 2026 on 06:30 - Oct 24 by majorraglan |
Labour deserve to be “wiped out” at the polls next May for their abject performance, but extending the vote to 16 year olds is far more democratic than trying to disenfranchise a vast number of electorate who don’t have photographic id on the pretext of clamping down on voter fraud when voter fraud wasn’t even an issue. [Post edited 25 Oct 14:44]
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I’d add to that I think it’s a misconception that 16 year olds will all vote Labour.
It’s Reform who are the most prevalent on social media and that were young people are getting their information. | | | |
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