| Return of the inverted full backs killed us 22:25 - Nov 25 with 2640 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Full backs stepping into centre midfield when we had the ball. Left our flanks completely exposed and Cabango having to step out to deal with wingers. Especially our right flank with Ronald and Cullen giving the ball away stupidly at every opportunity. Key just doesn’t have the footballing intelligence or ability to play such a role. Both their goals came from that side it’s no coincidence.
If we are to persist with this system we need a right back who can actually do it. Perhaps Galbraith could fill that role for now until we get someone decent in. |  |
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| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 23:04 - Nov 25 with 2261 views | max936 |
Not fused on Key he works hard, but his positional sense etc is hopeless a headless Chicken springs to mind, Ronald can go as well Cullen does well for Wales but rarely does it for us a few golden games apart, all three can go for me, plus a few others. [Post edited 25 Nov 23:07]
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| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 01:04 - Nov 26 with 2127 views | GVJack |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 23:04 - Nov 25 by max936 |
Not fused on Key he works hard, but his positional sense etc is hopeless a headless Chicken springs to mind, Ronald can go as well Cullen does well for Wales but rarely does it for us a few golden games apart, all three can go for me, plus a few others. [Post edited 25 Nov 23:07]
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Which others? |  | | |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 09:48 - Nov 26 with 1866 views | swan65split |
Its been our downfall for a season or 2 , the old overlapping fullbacks attempting to make the crosses etc for our fowards, because of our poor wide forwards, last night was an example severla times the rams broke down one flank, like sheep our defenders followed them only to leave the oppositte flank open for a rams runner , its been happenning for a while teams have worked us out, thats why we are ATM we are freaked,
Good luck to the manager hes going to need it, ome players here wont be here long , they possibly know it, hence the lack of desire, |  | | |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 11:45 - Nov 26 with 1767 views | Landore_Jack |
Josh Key should be no where near that team. Defensively he is awful. |  |
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| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 11:50 - Nov 26 with 1751 views | Whiterockin |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 11:45 - Nov 26 by Landore_Jack |
Josh Key should be no where near that team. Defensively he is awful. |
Possibly if our wingers did their job properly, our full backs wouldn't need to push up so much and get caught with the ball behind them. Tymon also got caught several times last night. [Post edited 26 Nov 11:51]
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| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 12:52 - Nov 26 with 1679 views | wwcigne |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 11:50 - Nov 26 by Whiterockin |
Possibly if our wingers did their job properly, our full backs wouldn't need to push up so much and get caught with the ball behind them. Tymon also got caught several times last night. [Post edited 26 Nov 11:51]
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The wingers are immaterial ,Key and Tymon are poor defenders ,positionaly and can’t tackle ,they leave wingers have too much time and space to attack,opposition teams are aware of this weakness and exploit it every game it’s so frustrating | | | |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 13:36 - Nov 26 with 1622 views | Whiterockin |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 12:52 - Nov 26 by wwcigne |
The wingers are immaterial ,Key and Tymon are poor defenders ,positionaly and can’t tackle ,they leave wingers have too much time and space to attack,opposition teams are aware of this weakness and exploit it every game it’s so frustrating |
More often than not they put the ball behind them when they are upfield, but football is all about opinions. | | | |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 13:49 - Nov 26 with 1593 views | onehunglow |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 13:36 - Nov 26 by Whiterockin |
More often than not they put the ball behind them when they are upfield, but football is all about opinions. |
And whether they are upbeat or not
We are all fans and all want the best for the club
Losing hurts
Or at least it should | |
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| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 17:16 - Nov 26 with 1474 views | Whiterockin |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 13:49 - Nov 26 by onehunglow |
And whether they are upbeat or not
We are all fans and all want the best for the club
Losing hurts
Or at least it should |
I love an upbeat full back. | | | |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 17:37 - Nov 26 with 1443 views | onehunglow |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 17:16 - Nov 26 by Whiterockin |
I love an upbeat full back. |
Upbeat is the new positive
I don’t like positive or negative as words
They’re much overused
If you think you can do a thing or think you can’t , then you’re right | |
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| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 19:20 - Nov 26 with 1360 views | max936 |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 01:04 - Nov 26 by GVJack |
Which others? |
Benson, Fulton, jury is out on Eom, Starmenic and Inoussa for me, Smith is young and needs to play more Burgess is a worry, Casey is a work in progress.
The squad isn't looking anywhere near to what we need, IMO | |
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| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 16:18 - Nov 27 with 1146 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 19:20 - Nov 26 by max936 |
Benson, Fulton, jury is out on Eom, Starmenic and Inoussa for me, Smith is young and needs to play more Burgess is a worry, Casey is a work in progress.
The squad isn't looking anywhere near to what we need, IMO |
Hoping Santos can come in and offer something different. He’s a bit of a forgotten man but comes with a good rep. | |
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| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 17:55 - Nov 27 with 1096 views | Fireboy2 |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 16:18 - Nov 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Hoping Santos can come in and offer something different. He’s a bit of a forgotten man but comes with a good rep. |
You obviously didnt watch him against brizzle.
A battleship turns quicker. |  | | |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 18:14 - Nov 27 with 1094 views | onehunglow |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 16:18 - Nov 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Hoping Santos can come in and offer something different. He’s a bit of a forgotten man but comes with a good rep. |
Burgess is broke
Compare him
Now with how he was against Forest
He can play but we’ve broken him
EOM offered little but flatters
Benson has been spectacular at times for Burnley but looks deadbeat for us
The teams have been wrong and tactics accordingly
These players can be far better than what we’ve seen however | |
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| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 20:03 - Nov 27 with 1037 views | Whiterockin |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 18:14 - Nov 27 by onehunglow |
Burgess is broke
Compare him
Now with how he was against Forest
He can play but we’ve broken him
EOM offered little but flatters
Benson has been spectacular at times for Burnley but looks deadbeat for us
The teams have been wrong and tactics accordingly
These players can be far better than what we’ve seen however |
Burgess has his limitations he always has, there is a reason Ipswich replaced him and rarely played him in the Premier League. In my opinion he is slow to get in position, lacks awareness and can't play the ball out. | | | |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 10:28 - Nov 28 with 889 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 17:55 - Nov 27 by Fireboy2 |
You obviously didnt watch him against brizzle.
A battleship turns quicker. |
He had 10 minutes when we were chasing the game after months out.
We write players off ridiculously quickly in this fanbase. | |
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| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 10:36 - Nov 28 with 876 views | KeithHaynes |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 18:14 - Nov 27 by onehunglow |
Burgess is broke
Compare him
Now with how he was against Forest
He can play but we’ve broken him
EOM offered little but flatters
Benson has been spectacular at times for Burnley but looks deadbeat for us
The teams have been wrong and tactics accordingly
These players can be far better than what we’ve seen however |
This is why Matos is impressive at the moment, he sees exactly where the issues are, if he gets the counter press right and then the players deliver it as he wants we will all see a huge difference in that alone.
We must remember he has had one full training session and that was yesterday.
Minday was introductions and training, Tuesday is never a full training day on the day of a game. The warm downs and injury assessments accompanied by a post match walk through on Wednesday keft just Thursday as a full training session. I expect but haven't asked they will as per usual be travelling this afternoon after training this morning. A full week of training next week is vital. |  |
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| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 10:49 - Nov 28 with 850 views | Whiterockin |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 10:36 - Nov 28 by KeithHaynes |
This is why Matos is impressive at the moment, he sees exactly where the issues are, if he gets the counter press right and then the players deliver it as he wants we will all see a huge difference in that alone.
We must remember he has had one full training session and that was yesterday.
Minday was introductions and training, Tuesday is never a full training day on the day of a game. The warm downs and injury assessments accompanied by a post match walk through on Wednesday keft just Thursday as a full training session. I expect but haven't asked they will as per usual be travelling this afternoon after training this morning. A full week of training next week is vital. |
The was a lot of signalling from the technical area from Matos to the players on Tuesday. Particularly who he wanted to push closer, what line he wanted players to hold and when he wanted to increase the intensity. There was also applause for players when they did what he was looking for. He was certainly more animated than we have seen recently. | | | |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 11:19 - Nov 28 with 819 views | onehunglow |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 10:36 - Nov 28 by KeithHaynes |
This is why Matos is impressive at the moment, he sees exactly where the issues are, if he gets the counter press right and then the players deliver it as he wants we will all see a huge difference in that alone.
We must remember he has had one full training session and that was yesterday.
Minday was introductions and training, Tuesday is never a full training day on the day of a game. The warm downs and injury assessments accompanied by a post match walk through on Wednesday keft just Thursday as a full training session. I expect but haven't asked they will as per usual be travelling this afternoon after training this morning. A full week of training next week is vital. |
Well I’m not disagreeing with any of that
Nobody had been dismissed after one game
Note that
We L want Vitor to succeed
I think he can
I’m certain some players will be found out by him
It’s about hope
It’s also time for all fans to come together
We’re all on this together at least mentally | |
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| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 11:52 - Nov 28 with 773 views | wwcigne |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 11:19 - Nov 28 by onehunglow |
Well I’m not disagreeing with any of that
Nobody had been dismissed after one game
Note that
We L want Vitor to succeed
I think he can
I’m certain some players will be found out by him
It’s about hope
It’s also time for all fans to come together
We’re all on this together at least mentally |
We just need to keep it simple ,defend the flanks better and mark the wide men tighter,don’t overplay at the back ,players in the middle moving and looking for space to receive the ball and turning upfield when they get it ,moving the ball forward quicker ,through the middle and out wide
We can do it | | | |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 12:08 - Nov 28 with 739 views | onehunglow |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 11:52 - Nov 28 by wwcigne |
We just need to keep it simple ,defend the flanks better and mark the wide men tighter,don’t overplay at the back ,players in the middle moving and looking for space to receive the ball and turning upfield when they get it ,moving the ball forward quicker ,through the middle and out wide
We can do it |
We can
The basics
We will | |
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| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 13:23 - Nov 28 with 677 views | Fireboy2 |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 10:28 - Nov 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
He had 10 minutes when we were chasing the game after months out.
We write players off ridiculously quickly in this fanbase. |
Did you watch him in the 25 minutes he was on the pitch?
I did and that's why I came out with tbe battleship comment because thats how slow he is.
With games he might get quicker but I seriously doubt it, the comments ive got from Bolton fans o know arent generous. | | | |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 13:33 - Nov 28 with 663 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 13:23 - Nov 28 by Fireboy2 |
Did you watch him in the 25 minutes he was on the pitch?
I did and that's why I came out with tbe battleship comment because thats how slow he is.
With games he might get quicker but I seriously doubt it, the comments ive got from Bolton fans o know arent generous. |
Centre backs don’t always need to be quick though. Cabango and Burgess are also a bit cumbersome and slow on the turn although Cabango does have good recovery pace when he gets going. Most of our goals conceded are coming from crosses/set pieces and he is 6’5 ish perhaps that’s exactly what we need?
I’m not sure writing off a player coming back from a long injury for 25 minutes in a game we’ve already lost is a fair assessment. | |
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| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 14:17 - Nov 28 with 621 views | onehunglow |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 13:33 - Nov 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Centre backs don’t always need to be quick though. Cabango and Burgess are also a bit cumbersome and slow on the turn although Cabango does have good recovery pace when he gets going. Most of our goals conceded are coming from crosses/set pieces and he is 6’5 ish perhaps that’s exactly what we need?
I’m not sure writing off a player coming back from a long injury for 25 minutes in a game we’ve already lost is a fair assessment. |
It is pointless have “ quick” centre halves when they can’t defend, their basic function
Same with full backs
All our defenders are limited
They most certainly cannot pass accurately consistently
Cam and Ben have to cover from our full backs, the very worst defenders in this league
I see pitiful “ support”for both these because one can cross a ball, the other , well, looks like he might but loses the ball
It’s the bloody basics , again
Cabango is a decent stopper as is Burgess
Vig is a good goalkeeper
They have all been playing poorly
It’s got to stop | |
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| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 14:59 - Nov 28 with 572 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Return of the inverted full backs killed us on 14:17 - Nov 28 by onehunglow |
It is pointless have “ quick” centre halves when they can’t defend, their basic function
Same with full backs
All our defenders are limited
They most certainly cannot pass accurately consistently
Cam and Ben have to cover from our full backs, the very worst defenders in this league
I see pitiful “ support”for both these because one can cross a ball, the other , well, looks like he might but loses the ball
It’s the bloody basics , again
Cabango is a decent stopper as is Burgess
Vig is a good goalkeeper
They have all been playing poorly
It’s got to stop |
Tymon has pleasantly surprised me I think he’s one of the better left backs in the league, Key has regressed though to a pathetic level, whether it’s confidence or he just wasn’t good enough in the first place I don’t know but he doesn’t seem to have any defensive awareness whatsoever. When he first came he was playing on the left and skipping past players for fun I don’t know what happened to him. Perhaps being the only right back at the club has bred complacency because he knows he’s gonna get picked no matter what. | |
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