| Sir Jim Ratcliffe 12:12 - Feb 12 with 6777 views | union_jack |
Another one coerced into apologising for saying it as it is (apart from his population figures which were wrong). |  |
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| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 02:14 - Feb 14 with 667 views | mangohilljack |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 16:54 - Feb 12 by Demitrius |
More outrage over this word "Colonised" than the outrage over the mass rape of 1000's of white girls...
This country eh ?
It seems that it's okay to use the word "colonised" in the classroom and media when using it in a derogatory way to describe the British and its Empire of yore but abhorent when describing the non-English speaking enclaves that have recently sprung up in the UK ?
What ridiculous people the virtue signalling left are....The great satirists of the C18th would have a field day in C21st Britain.. [Post edited 12 Feb 17:04]
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Absolutely spot on. You can find the same activists in every major city marching over Gaza, loud, organised, and relentless. But when it comes to the persecution of Kurds, the brutal repression of Iranians by the regime in Iran, or the mass killings of Christians in Nigeria, the streets are suddenly quiet.
It’s hard not to notice the selective outrage. If the principle is opposing genocide and human suffering, it shouldn’t depend on which conflict is trending or politically convenient. Human rights either matter consistently, or they’re just a slogan. |  | | |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 04:22 - Feb 14 with 634 views | AnotherJohn |
I think many would agree that the choice of the word colonialization was unfortunate, but one irony that many have pointed out on social media is that the idea of "colonialization in reverse" was already circulating in progressive circles. This is the title of a poem by the late Louise Bennett-Coverley (a woman of colour as they say) written in 1966. The poem with title has recently featured in posters on the London underground.
https://www.poetrybyheart.org.
And to Scotia I simply say that the distinction between British people and "immigrants" is about ingroup/outgroup rather than ethnicity. Both categories are composed of people of multiple ethnicities, including so called Caucasian immigrants (to use an outdated racial classification system). Note also that race and ethnicity are different concepts that some on the progressive side of politics conflate.
https://www.bing.com/videos/ri [Post edited 14 Feb 4:49]
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| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 08:15 - Feb 14 with 572 views | Scotia |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 04:22 - Feb 14 by AnotherJohn |
I think many would agree that the choice of the word colonialization was unfortunate, but one irony that many have pointed out on social media is that the idea of "colonialization in reverse" was already circulating in progressive circles. This is the title of a poem by the late Louise Bennett-Coverley (a woman of colour as they say) written in 1966. The poem with title has recently featured in posters on the London underground.
https://www.poetrybyheart.org.
And to Scotia I simply say that the distinction between British people and "immigrants" is about ingroup/outgroup rather than ethnicity. Both categories are composed of people of multiple ethnicities, including so called Caucasian immigrants (to use an outdated racial classification system). Note also that race and ethnicity are different concepts that some on the progressive side of politics conflate.
https://www.bing.com/videos/ri [Post edited 14 Feb 4:49]
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The use of colonization was not only unfortunate but racist. Its also completely incorrect.
I live on a large in the North of Swansea, I see no evidence of immigrant colonization anywhere. In fact I don't think there's a first generation immigrant family living in any of the 2000 ISH houses here.
Ethnicity and race are different but racism is discrimination against either or both. | | | |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 08:39 - Feb 14 with 551 views | AnotherJohn |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 08:15 - Feb 14 by Scotia |
The use of colonization was not only unfortunate but racist. Its also completely incorrect.
I live on a large in the North of Swansea, I see no evidence of immigrant colonization anywhere. In fact I don't think there's a first generation immigrant family living in any of the 2000 ISH houses here.
Ethnicity and race are different but racism is discrimination against either or both. |
My point was about irony rather than endorsement of the C word. Apparently you think Mrs Bennett-Coverley was a racist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
As to your last point, this claim is controversial because of the way usage of the R word has been stretched in recent times. Many academics, such as the historian in the video clip, would say that applying the term racism in relation to ethnicity (which centres on culture and heritage) is a category error.
You cannot get much more "right on" than the said historian Blair Imani. She is an author and activist who describes herself as Black, Muslim and Queer. So if she says "you might think you are being anti-racist by swapping (the terms) , however you are just being inaccurate" then there is probably something in that argument. [Post edited 14 Feb 9:02]
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| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 08:47 - Feb 14 with 536 views | Boundy |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 08:15 - Feb 14 by Scotia |
The use of colonization was not only unfortunate but racist. Its also completely incorrect.
I live on a large in the North of Swansea, I see no evidence of immigrant colonization anywhere. In fact I don't think there's a first generation immigrant family living in any of the 2000 ISH houses here.
Ethnicity and race are different but racism is discrimination against either or both. |
So its not in Velindre so that must mean tits not happening in Bradford  | |
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| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 09:51 - Feb 14 with 521 views | Whiterockin |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 08:47 - Feb 14 by Boundy |
So its not in Velindre so that must mean tits not happening in Bradford |
Or the Hafod or Sandfields. |  | | |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 10:12 - Feb 14 with 494 views | onehunglow |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 08:15 - Feb 14 by Scotia |
The use of colonization was not only unfortunate but racist. Its also completely incorrect.
I live on a large in the North of Swansea, I see no evidence of immigrant colonization anywhere. In fact I don't think there's a first generation immigrant family living in any of the 2000 ISH houses here.
Ethnicity and race are different but racism is discrimination against either or both. |
Please , look at the big picture
You live on a predominately white area
All you know or think about living on a predominately black area is what you see on TV or read
Trust me, you don’t want to be shite and live in Manningham
It affects every aspect of your life
Your work, your children’s education, everything
Your daughters are viewed as young hookers , your wife as trash
Why? Because of what they wear for a start
Your children go to a school where females are restricted by religion and watched over by male heads of families
It is utterly different to an isolated Welsh village
We cannot be honest as a country over this | |
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| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 10:40 - Feb 14 with 485 views | Scotia |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 08:47 - Feb 14 by Boundy |
So its not in Velindre so that must mean tits not happening in Bradford |
He said the UK. As a whole.
I've been for my morning run, 5 miles through Clase, Morriston and Cwmrhydyceirw. I haven't seen a single non white person.
He was spouting nonsense | | | |
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| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 11:08 - Feb 14 with 465 views | mangohilljack |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 10:40 - Feb 14 by Scotia |
He said the UK. As a whole.
I've been for my morning run, 5 miles through Clase, Morriston and Cwmrhydyceirw. I haven't seen a single non white person.
He was spouting nonsense |
The only person talking nonsense here is you. There is a significant surge in irregular migration across Europe right now, and pretending it isn’t happening doesn’t make it go away. Many migrants are moving through the continent with the UK in their sights drawn by the promise of free accommodation food and clothing.
Just because a few areas around Morriston haven’t yet felt the full impact of what’s unfolding across parts of the UK doesn’t mean they won’t. Other towns were once saying the same thing until local services, housing and policing were stretched to breaking point.
The current trajectory under Keir Starmer’s government is raising serious concerns about border control, resource allocation and public safety. If leadership continues to prioritise optics over enforcement, the consequences will accelerate.
People aren’t wrong to want safe communities, functioning public services and accountable politicians. The hope should be that decisive, lawful and effective policy changes are made quickly so towns like Morriston don’t face the same issues already evident elsewhere. | | | |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 11:28 - Feb 14 with 452 views | Scotia |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 11:08 - Feb 14 by mangohilljack |
The only person talking nonsense here is you. There is a significant surge in irregular migration across Europe right now, and pretending it isn’t happening doesn’t make it go away. Many migrants are moving through the continent with the UK in their sights drawn by the promise of free accommodation food and clothing.
Just because a few areas around Morriston haven’t yet felt the full impact of what’s unfolding across parts of the UK doesn’t mean they won’t. Other towns were once saying the same thing until local services, housing and policing were stretched to breaking point.
The current trajectory under Keir Starmer’s government is raising serious concerns about border control, resource allocation and public safety. If leadership continues to prioritise optics over enforcement, the consequences will accelerate.
People aren’t wrong to want safe communities, functioning public services and accountable politicians. The hope should be that decisive, lawful and effective policy changes are made quickly so towns like Morriston don’t face the same issues already evident elsewhere. |
Sir Jim didn't talk about a surge in migration.
Starmer (I'm not a Labour voter) has done considerably more to kerb immigration than the last lot. That's undeniable | | | |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 12:05 - Feb 14 with 419 views | Boundy |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 09:51 - Feb 14 by Whiterockin |
Or the Hafod or Sandfields. |
I didn't mention either areas just in case I was accused of being a Klu Klux clan member. | |
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| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 13:31 - Feb 14 with 385 views | onehunglow |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 02:14 - Feb 14 by mangohilljack |
Absolutely spot on. You can find the same activists in every major city marching over Gaza, loud, organised, and relentless. But when it comes to the persecution of Kurds, the brutal repression of Iranians by the regime in Iran, or the mass killings of Christians in Nigeria, the streets are suddenly quiet.
It’s hard not to notice the selective outrage. If the principle is opposing genocide and human suffering, it shouldn’t depend on which conflict is trending or politically convenient. Human rights either matter consistently, or they’re just a slogan. |
As Dem alludes to , it’s all targeted outrage and slll for public consumption
Look at how humanitarian we are caring for the people of Gaza and their murderous heroes
We’ve lost it | |
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| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 13:33 - Feb 14 with 382 views | onehunglow |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 10:40 - Feb 14 by Scotia |
He said the UK. As a whole.
I've been for my morning run, 5 miles through Clase, Morriston and Cwmrhydyceirw. I haven't seen a single non white person.
He was spouting nonsense |
Many white people are envious as to your milieu
You need to speak to a few
Be lucky you live where you do
Not many places like it | |
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| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 13:48 - Feb 14 with 374 views | Whiterockin |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 12:05 - Feb 14 by Boundy |
I didn't mention either areas just in case I was accused of being a Klu Klux clan member. |
All one has to do is drive past a school at 3pm to see the demographics of any area. | | | |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 14:47 - Feb 14 with 342 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 02:14 - Feb 14 by mangohilljack |
Absolutely spot on. You can find the same activists in every major city marching over Gaza, loud, organised, and relentless. But when it comes to the persecution of Kurds, the brutal repression of Iranians by the regime in Iran, or the mass killings of Christians in Nigeria, the streets are suddenly quiet.
It’s hard not to notice the selective outrage. If the principle is opposing genocide and human suffering, it shouldn’t depend on which conflict is trending or politically convenient. Human rights either matter consistently, or they’re just a slogan. |
I've made this point in the past, there are over 110 armed conflicts in the World but the dim whitted activist types are obsessed with one, which rather ruins their attempts to tell us they understand issues better than anyone else. |  |
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| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 15:03 - Feb 14 with 332 views | Gwyn737 |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 14:47 - Feb 14 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I've made this point in the past, there are over 110 armed conflicts in the World but the dim whitted activist types are obsessed with one, which rather ruins their attempts to tell us they understand issues better than anyone else. |
There will always be causes that feel closer to home than others.
If you take Mangos point, that you can’t have an opinion about one conflict unless you include an about every single other conflict, sounds like classic cancel culture to me. | | | |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 17:39 - Feb 14 with 293 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 15:03 - Feb 14 by Gwyn737 |
There will always be causes that feel closer to home than others.
If you take Mangos point, that you can’t have an opinion about one conflict unless you include an about every single other conflict, sounds like classic cancel culture to me. |
I don't see that he's seeking to cancel anyone, just pointing out some glaringly obvious ugly rank hypocrisy by those who claim the moral high ground. | |
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| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 17:46 - Feb 14 with 291 views | Wingstandwood |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 12:05 - Feb 14 by Boundy |
I didn't mention either areas just in case I was accused of being a Klu Klux clan member. |
Aye, best be careful, because observing reality and stating thus angers those who have attended confirmation bias courses and read books by Robin DiAngelo. You know the losers who have thrown about the 'R' word so much that they helped to win the Brexit referendum result and have turned millions of working class voters away from Labour permanently.
Here is an interesting one i.e. Wikipedia.
"Cultural imperialism (also cultural COLONIALISM) is the imposition by a dominant community of its own culture onto another community."
I guess some would say that certain area's have been culturally changed beyond all recognition based upon undeniable fact, evidence and reality from what they see all around them?
Wikipedia had better tread carefully from now on?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ |  |
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| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 17:56 - Feb 14 with 278 views | onehunglow |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 17:46 - Feb 14 by Wingstandwood |
Aye, best be careful, because observing reality and stating thus angers those who have attended confirmation bias courses and read books by Robin DiAngelo. You know the losers who have thrown about the 'R' word so much that they helped to win the Brexit referendum result and have turned millions of working class voters away from Labour permanently.
Here is an interesting one i.e. Wikipedia.
"Cultural imperialism (also cultural COLONIALISM) is the imposition by a dominant community of its own culture onto another community."
I guess some would say that certain area's have been culturally changed beyond all recognition based upon undeniable fact, evidence and reality from what they see all around them?
Wikipedia had better tread carefully from now on?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ |
We were the best colonialists and stopped Africans butchering each other and rounding up their own people for slavery masters
People need to know history
All of it | |
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| Sir Jim Ratcliffe (n/t) on 18:29 - Feb 14 with 250 views | shingle |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 17:56 - Feb 14 by onehunglow |
We were the best colonialists and stopped Africans butchering each other and rounding up their own people for slavery masters
People need to know history
All of it |
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| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 18:32 - Feb 14 with 244 views | shingle |
Oh well only two idiots in a well debated thread is not to bad I suppose. | | | |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe (n/t) on 18:40 - Feb 14 with 225 views | Gwyn737 |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe (n/t) on 18:29 - Feb 14 by shingle |
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Yep. You can call the e two people who disagree with you idiots and then all the others can agrees with each other.
Perfect. | | | |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 18:44 - Feb 14 with 223 views | Boundy |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 11:28 - Feb 14 by Scotia |
Sir Jim didn't talk about a surge in migration.
Starmer (I'm not a Labour voter) has done considerably more to kerb immigration than the last lot. That's undeniable |
Really ?
https://migrationobservatory.o | |
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| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 18:51 - Feb 14 with 214 views | Scotia |
Yes? Which is exactly what that shows. | | | |
| Sir Jim Ratcliffe on 19:10 - Feb 14 with 199 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
The drop in legal migration is a result of Sunak's policy changes, that's why Labour are not making anything of it. | |
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