| Makerfield by election 10:52 - May 18 with 3767 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
What an unedifying display this will no doubt turn out to be. I think if Sir Keir wants to carry on squatting in number ten the best thing he can do is get up there knocking on doors and tanking the Labour vote himself. Maybe a donation to the Reform party from Lord Alli might do the trick. It’s a bizarre scenario that I don’t recall seeing before where a sitting prime minister will be doing all in his power to ensure that his own party loses an election.
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| Makerfield by election on 12:01 - May 18 with 1942 views | Whiterockin |
There is no certainty Labour will win this seat. If you were living in this constituency how would you feel about the manoeuvring going on. I think this could well backfire for Burnham, no seat and no longer mayor. |  | | |
| Makerfield by election on 12:10 - May 18 with 1934 views | onehunglow |
Burnham will get in purely because he’s a local ish lad , “ working class” , said all the right things about Hillsborough and Farage is just too posh
People are strange |  |
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| Makerfield by election on 12:21 - May 18 with 1896 views | pencoedjack |
I'm wondering if Streeting is doing his best for personal gain by bringing up re-joining the EU something Burnham wants to do.
If the people in that town who voted overwhelming for Brexit & Reform (in the recent elections) stuck to their principles Reform would win with a landslide.
I have little doubt that wont happen & Burnham will be elected going against all this area has voted for over the past couple of years. |  | | |
| Makerfield by election on 12:34 - May 18 with 1861 views | onehunglow |
| Makerfield by election on 12:21 - May 18 by pencoedjack |
I'm wondering if Streeting is doing his best for personal gain by bringing up re-joining the EU something Burnham wants to do.
If the people in that town who voted overwhelming for Brexit & Reform (in the recent elections) stuck to their principles Reform would win with a landslide.
I have little doubt that wont happen & Burnham will be elected going against all this area has voted for over the past couple of years. |
The “ working class” voted overwhelmingly to leave EU
The Posh boy Cameron , gave a referendum not believing we’d vote to leave
Posher Farage vehemently anti EU
Ergo “ working class” agree with Farage
Many wonder we are Donald ducked
Anybody out there with any common sense
The EU wouldn’t have us back
It’s not going to happen
We need to end immigration unless it’s for a job and they are financial means , as is the case elsewhere
Migrants simply stopped
No more benefits at all
That simple | |
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| Makerfield by election on 17:53 - May 18 with 1766 views | johnlangy |
The most interesting take on this was from one of the pollsters.
He said that in the lead up to the council election they asked 500 people who they were going to vote for. Labour was on 36%. Last week they asked the exact same 500 people who they would vote for if Andy Burnham was up for election and the number changed to 65%.
That appears to show that the vote for Reform in the local election was in fact a vote against KS. | | | |
| Makerfield by election on 17:59 - May 18 with 1762 views | Dr_Winston |
The Social Democrat types are trying to bounce us back into the EU because they hope that it will mean the effective end of democracy in the UK.
We can go through Governments of all shades, but without Brexit 2 we would be beholden to all the structures of the Brussels monolith. It's why they've fought so hard to water leaving down in the first place. All of Labour. Most of the Tories at the time. Certainly large swathes of the civil service. All with the same goal.
The EU would love us back because we were a net contributor in the first place, and they'd appreciate nothing more than having tens of billions of pounds extra of taxpayers money to piss away. They'd welcome us back with open arms, but punish us for leaving in the first place, like an abusive spouse.
Unless they try to push it through without a referendum, which I wouldn't put it past them, all the actual costs of rejoining will come into play. The Euro. Schengen. All of it. [Post edited 18 May 18:00]
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| Makerfield by election on 18:18 - May 18 with 1750 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Makerfield by election on 17:53 - May 18 by johnlangy |
The most interesting take on this was from one of the pollsters.
He said that in the lead up to the council election they asked 500 people who they were going to vote for. Labour was on 36%. Last week they asked the exact same 500 people who they would vote for if Andy Burnham was up for election and the number changed to 65%.
That appears to show that the vote for Reform in the local election was in fact a vote against KS. |
Labour got nowhere near 36% anywhere in the country. And they’ll get nowhere near 63% this time.
These polls aren’t worth the time effort or paper they’re written on. | |
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| Makerfield by election on 18:59 - May 18 with 1719 views | builthjack |
| Makerfield by election on 17:53 - May 18 by johnlangy |
The most interesting take on this was from one of the pollsters.
He said that in the lead up to the council election they asked 500 people who they were going to vote for. Labour was on 36%. Last week they asked the exact same 500 people who they would vote for if Andy Burnham was up for election and the number changed to 65%.
That appears to show that the vote for Reform in the local election was in fact a vote against KS. |
I can’t see the racists beating Burnham. |  |
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| Makerfield by election on 19:23 - May 18 with 1708 views | Wingstandwood |
| Makerfield by election on 18:59 - May 18 by builthjack |
I can’t see the racists beating Burnham. |
Calling people 'racist' no longer works, because wanting sensible immigration quota's that a country can cope with, wanting border control to prevent criminals from entering the U.K, wanting to deport foreign criminals is (surprise! surprise!) NOT racist.
I suggest false malicious accusations upon ethnic minority Reform members by calling them racist, is? RACISM!
Why not ask the following about real racsim, as opposed to made up b*******
Addy Asaduzzaman...Ion Talambuta...Rohan Beecha...Parvesh Kumar
Yaseen Saddique...Professor Sajjad Raja...Faisa Hussain...Mahendra Negi...Laila Ahmed El-Meleigy...Suella Braverman...Zia Yusaf...Ion Ursachi...Nadhim Zahawi...Prabhdeep Singh... Toriola Coker...Dr Soham Bandyopadhyay...Raj Forhad...Khuswant Singh
Ramesh Babu Boddukola... Sunil Idiculla...Ripon Sheikh...Muhammad Hamza...
Manjeet Nandra and all those patriotic turban wearing Sikh's seen amongst Reform U.K audiences etc, etc, etc. [Post edited 18 May 19:26]
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| Makerfield by election on 19:33 - May 18 with 1682 views | jack_lord |
| Makerfield by election on 12:34 - May 18 by onehunglow |
The “ working class” voted overwhelmingly to leave EU
The Posh boy Cameron , gave a referendum not believing we’d vote to leave
Posher Farage vehemently anti EU
Ergo “ working class” agree with Farage
Many wonder we are Donald ducked
Anybody out there with any common sense
The EU wouldn’t have us back
It’s not going to happen
We need to end immigration unless it’s for a job and they are financial means , as is the case elsewhere
Migrants simply stopped
No more benefits at all
That simple |
I think the EU would be glad to have us back in the fold but what conditions would they insist on? No £? What else? |  |
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| Makerfield by election on 19:36 - May 18 with 1676 views | union_jack |
| Makerfield by election on 18:59 - May 18 by builthjack |
I can’t see the racists beating Burnham. |
You’d fit in so well on the other site👍 |  |
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| Makerfield by election on 19:38 - May 18 with 1673 views | union_jack |
| Makerfield by election on 17:53 - May 18 by johnlangy |
The most interesting take on this was from one of the pollsters.
He said that in the lead up to the council election they asked 500 people who they were going to vote for. Labour was on 36%. Last week they asked the exact same 500 people who they would vote for if Andy Burnham was up for election and the number changed to 65%.
That appears to show that the vote for Reform in the local election was in fact a vote against KS. |
By that same premise John you will have to admit that the vote for PC was more a vote against Labour in Wales. | |
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| Makerfield by election on 20:49 - May 18 with 1630 views | KeithHaynes |
| Makerfield by election on 18:59 - May 18 by builthjack |
I can’t see the racists beating Burnham. |
Sorry mate, but that overriding sentiment is as old as my mate Charlie Harper.
It actually feeds the right, Starmer found out. They have to leave all that old tat out of it to get in. It stinks of a party terrified of the opposition, it simply doesn’t work. If Burnham gets it right he won’t need such narratives.
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| Makerfield by election on 21:48 - May 18 with 1584 views | AguycalledJack |
Burnham. Another career politician. | | | |
| Makerfield by election on 22:09 - May 18 with 1567 views | pencoedjack |
| Makerfield by election on 20:49 - May 18 by KeithHaynes |
Sorry mate, but that overriding sentiment is as old as my mate Charlie Harper.
It actually feeds the right, Starmer found out. They have to leave all that old tat out of it to get in. It stinks of a party terrified of the opposition, it simply doesn’t work. If Burnham gets it right he won’t need such narratives.
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Someone who comes from Builth Wells is obviously going to be left leaning.
The type people who know nothing about making Wales a better more prosperous place to live. | | | |
| Makerfield by election on 01:41 - May 19 with 1526 views | Robbie |
If Burnham loses this cause after giving up the Manchester hot seat to stand in doing .
Will the Mancs trust in him again after a runner from his Post .
Question is where does himself and the self inflicted fall guy go next , his call now.
Starmer will sit back and say I will support the Labour Candidate through gritted teeth .
If Reform get this verdict in June as they are hell bent on achieving , what then for Labour .
Voters are not anti Labour like myself , but the Leadership leading this fraud Party . | | | |
| Makerfield by election on 09:50 - May 19 with 1448 views | onehunglow |
| Makerfield by election on 18:59 - May 18 by builthjack |
I can’t see the racists beating Burnham. |
Labour are running scared
Calling folk racist because they might want to vote as you do not is appalling
It’s like calling every Labour voter a communist
Like it or not we are a democracy
Many parts of wales ARE racist where a language alone will completely isolate you
Plaid to me are the biggest culprits of all and the biggest hypocrites
Starmer says he will support Burnham in the campaign
What utter duplicity
Labour disgust me
It’s a shame Boris et al left us in this mess
A country invaded by criminals | |
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| Makerfield by election on 10:38 - May 19 with 1430 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Makerfield by election on 21:48 - May 18 by AguycalledJack |
Burnham. Another career politician. |
Most people can see this for what it is, politicians at play. |  |
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| Makerfield by election on 11:52 - May 19 with 1403 views | union_jack |
| Makerfield by election on 01:41 - May 19 by Robbie |
If Burnham loses this cause after giving up the Manchester hot seat to stand in doing .
Will the Mancs trust in him again after a runner from his Post .
Question is where does himself and the self inflicted fall guy go next , his call now.
Starmer will sit back and say I will support the Labour Candidate through gritted teeth .
If Reform get this verdict in June as they are hell bent on achieving , what then for Labour .
Voters are not anti Labour like myself , but the Leadership leading this fraud Party . |
I think Manchester, being largely a Labour voting area will see Burnham as the knight in shining armour Labour need and will vote for him to be leader. They’d also take him back imho if he fails in the Makerfield election. Which I don’t think he will. Time will tell. | |
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| Makerfield by election on 12:33 - May 19 with 1380 views | Whiterockin |
| Makerfield by election on 11:52 - May 19 by union_jack |
I think Manchester, being largely a Labour voting area will see Burnham as the knight in shining armour Labour need and will vote for him to be leader. They’d also take him back imho if he fails in the Makerfield election. Which I don’t think he will. Time will tell. |
I think it will come down to if the local electorate want Labour out, Starmer out or neither. | | | |
| Makerfield by election on 12:39 - May 19 with 1371 views | union_jack |
| Makerfield by election on 12:33 - May 19 by Whiterockin |
I think it will come down to if the local electorate want Labour out, Starmer out or neither. |
I think they’ll want Starmer out (most of the UK does), Burnham in (one of their own) and Labour in (traditional vote for the area). | |
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| Makerfield by election on 13:26 - May 19 with 1353 views | Whiterockin |
| Makerfield by election on 12:39 - May 19 by union_jack |
I think they’ll want Starmer out (most of the UK does), Burnham in (one of their own) and Labour in (traditional vote for the area). |
I think traditional currently counts for nothing, Wales traditionally voted Labour. | | | |
| Makerfield by election on 13:46 - May 19 with 1341 views | union_jack |
| Makerfield by election on 13:26 - May 19 by Whiterockin |
I think traditional currently counts for nothing, Wales traditionally voted Labour. |
Fair point, but given the right people back at the helm in Labour both in Wales and UK I’d say the traditional voter would flood back. Votes for the Greens (FFS) and PC (FFFFS!!) won’t be sustained in the future if Labour get the people in the party right. That means no Angela Raynor or Wes Streeting but someone with the gravitas and traditional ideas normally seen in a Labour party.
I think the Conservatives need to do the same to combat the Reform or even more threateningly the Restore vote in the next election. I think Kemi Badenoch may just do it though she has a huge task on her hands. | |
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| Makerfield by election on 13:54 - May 19 with 1320 views | Whiterockin |
| Makerfield by election on 13:46 - May 19 by union_jack |
Fair point, but given the right people back at the helm in Labour both in Wales and UK I’d say the traditional voter would flood back. Votes for the Greens (FFS) and PC (FFFFS!!) won’t be sustained in the future if Labour get the people in the party right. That means no Angela Raynor or Wes Streeting but someone with the gravitas and traditional ideas normally seen in a Labour party.
I think the Conservatives need to do the same to combat the Reform or even more threateningly the Restore vote in the next election. I think Kemi Badenoch may just do it though she has a huge task on her hands. |
I think we will have to agree to disagree because I don't think we will see two party politics again. | | | |
| Makerfield by election on 14:21 - May 19 with 1292 views | union_jack |
| Makerfield by election on 13:54 - May 19 by Whiterockin |
I think we will have to agree to disagree because I don't think we will see two party politics again. |
To be fair, I don’t know. Nobody does, only time will tell. But things change all the time and you may very well be right given the strength of support for the newer parties. Will it last? Who knows. | |
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