| Reform or Restore ? 07:23 - May 30 with 3812 views | trampie |
Being an old leftie i dont know that much about Reform or Restore so i was wondering if Reform voters who's party have been going longer than Restore are going to now vote for Restore ? as Restore seem to be a more authentic right wing party, Reform seem to be more for failed Tories, Restore seem to have a much more accomplished leader in Lowe compared to Farage, also Restore don't seem to be in the lap of the Israeli lobby like Reform (and Labour and Conservatives) are. [Post edited 30 May 7:25]
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| Reform or Restore ? on 10:19 - May 30 with 2955 views | union_jack |
Restore seem to have got their act together. Their objectives are well set out, love them or hate them and they don’t have the baggage that Reform gave. Lowe is a much more credible figure than Farage and as you say, the failed Tories stinking them out will not be good for them in the future.
Restore don’t seem to have a presence in Wales as yet but they’d be much more likely to get my vote in the GE if they do by then. |  |
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| Reform or Restore ? on 13:48 - May 30 with 2877 views | onehunglow |
| Reform or Restore ? on 10:19 - May 30 by union_jack |
Restore seem to have got their act together. Their objectives are well set out, love them or hate them and they don’t have the baggage that Reform gave. Lowe is a much more credible figure than Farage and as you say, the failed Tories stinking them out will not be good for them in the future.
Restore don’t seem to have a presence in Wales as yet but they’d be much more likely to get my vote in the GE if they do by then. |
Both seem to want to prioritise British people with traditional long term values
The bastuds |  |
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| Reform or Restore ? on 16:46 - May 30 with 2818 views | controversial_jack |
| Reform or Restore ? on 13:48 - May 30 by onehunglow |
Both seem to want to prioritise British people with traditional long term values
The bastuds |
What are these British values? Getting pissed on foreign beer, eating kebabs. going on foreign holidays. watching shit US tv, driving foreign cars and watching foreign porn | | | |
| Reform or Restore ? on 17:01 - May 30 with 2797 views | KeithHaynes |
| Reform or Restore ? on 16:46 - May 30 by controversial_jack |
What are these British values? Getting pissed on foreign beer, eating kebabs. going on foreign holidays. watching shit US tv, driving foreign cars and watching foreign porn |
You can choose your porn it’s 2026 !
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| Reform or Restore ? on 18:17 - May 30 with 2724 views | Demitrius |
Why would I tell either of the A465 trolls on here who I intend to vote for in the next election ?
You're fishing to find out who people are intending to vote for to weaponize debate to use in the future. Nice try but Foxtrot Oscar.
For one it's 3 years away and things can change - I may not even be living in the same constituency by then...
I'll make an exception and declare, as I have in the past on here, I voted tactically in 2024 Lib Dem to get the local Tory horror MP out. It was Hobson's Choice but even though Davey is a buffoon this MP is decent and to his credit has improved things locally despite having the central government funding slashed.
The trouble with forums is people get pigeonholed and the truth is no party truly speaks for most people who have varied opinions on most subjects. |  |
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| Reform or Restore ? on 18:57 - May 30 with 2684 views | shingle |
Well i will not be voting for Labour Plaid, LibDems or the Greens, the Tories were on that list but I like Bedenoch so I will be keeping an eye on there progress.under her, but best scenario for me would be Restore and Reform becoming one and smashing the proven failures and then lets see how they get on. | | | |
| Reform or Restore ? on 19:09 - May 30 with 2662 views | Scotia |
Rupert Lowe saw Southampton FC ending up in administration and League 1. After nearly 3 decades in the top flight
He advocates abolishing renewable energy schemes but has his farm in Gloucester covered in solar panels.
He's broadly anti Islam but his son has married a Muslim and has a halal wedding celebration.
And he thinks it's possible to row from Calais to Great Yarmouth.
But he does hate Farage, so that's in his favour. | | | |
| Reform or Restore ? on 19:10 - May 30 with 2659 views | onehunglow |
| Reform or Restore ? on 18:17 - May 30 by Demitrius |
Why would I tell either of the A465 trolls on here who I intend to vote for in the next election ?
You're fishing to find out who people are intending to vote for to weaponize debate to use in the future. Nice try but Foxtrot Oscar.
For one it's 3 years away and things can change - I may not even be living in the same constituency by then...
I'll make an exception and declare, as I have in the past on here, I voted tactically in 2024 Lib Dem to get the local Tory horror MP out. It was Hobson's Choice but even though Davey is a buffoon this MP is decent and to his credit has improved things locally despite having the central government funding slashed.
The trouble with forums is people get pigeonholed and the truth is no party truly speaks for most people who have varied opinions on most subjects. |
Devastating
Stitch that | |
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| Reform or Restore ? on 19:53 - May 30 with 2632 views | Demitrius |
| Reform or Restore ? on 19:09 - May 30 by Scotia |
Rupert Lowe saw Southampton FC ending up in administration and League 1. After nearly 3 decades in the top flight
He advocates abolishing renewable energy schemes but has his farm in Gloucester covered in solar panels.
He's broadly anti Islam but his son has married a Muslim and has a halal wedding celebration.
And he thinks it's possible to row from Calais to Great Yarmouth.
But he does hate Farage, so that's in his favour. |
Dispute your opening sentence - He was not responsible for that as the factual evidence has proved. I'm not getting drawn into this again as I have extensively debated this elsewhere with many Saints fans agreeing that he was hounded out only to have buyers regret when they sank like a stone after he left under the new regime who made some appalling decisions. They consistently punched above their weight under Lowe but fans have unrealistic expectations of bouncing straight back thinking parachute payments are a golden ticket in reality they are covering a legacy wage bill of millions. Soton under Lowe had mid table stability in S1 and the play offs in S2 like Potter and Cooper..
Then relegation fodder after he left for a few seasons ultimately going down to L1 - I don't pay much attention to his brief return as it was fire fighting ...
You can draw many parallels with Huw Jenks and the Swans really - moving to a new ground, staying up for many years against the odds , a cup final, European football - ultimately both divide opinion among the fans.
West Ham Wolves and Burnley will soon find this out - especially the Hammers - possibly Burnley have not spent anywhere as much have been in this position before and would have prepared a disaster recovery plan. Don't think WHUFC envisaged this situation and like Leicester they will have a rude awakening | |
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| Reform or Restore ? on 20:04 - May 30 with 2627 views | Scotia |
| Reform or Restore ? on 19:53 - May 30 by Demitrius |
Dispute your opening sentence - He was not responsible for that as the factual evidence has proved. I'm not getting drawn into this again as I have extensively debated this elsewhere with many Saints fans agreeing that he was hounded out only to have buyers regret when they sank like a stone after he left under the new regime who made some appalling decisions. They consistently punched above their weight under Lowe but fans have unrealistic expectations of bouncing straight back thinking parachute payments are a golden ticket in reality they are covering a legacy wage bill of millions. Soton under Lowe had mid table stability in S1 and the play offs in S2 like Potter and Cooper..
Then relegation fodder after he left for a few seasons ultimately going down to L1 - I don't pay much attention to his brief return as it was fire fighting ...
You can draw many parallels with Huw Jenks and the Swans really - moving to a new ground, staying up for many years against the odds , a cup final, European football - ultimately both divide opinion among the fans.
West Ham Wolves and Burnley will soon find this out - especially the Hammers - possibly Burnley have not spent anywhere as much have been in this position before and would have prepared a disaster recovery plan. Don't think WHUFC envisaged this situation and like Leicester they will have a rude awakening |
He was chairman when they ended up in administration and had been in another spell shortly before. If he struggled to run a medium sized football club he's not fit to be anywhere near government. | | | |
| Reform or Restore ? on 20:28 - May 30 with 2614 views | Demitrius |
| Reform or Restore ? on 20:04 - May 30 by Scotia |
He was chairman when they ended up in administration and had been in another spell shortly before. If he struggled to run a medium sized football club he's not fit to be anywhere near government. |
Well that was a complete waste of my time - as usual...
You think any of today's other PMs and MPs could run a business?
Most of the imbeciles in Westminster past and present couldn't run a bath or a stall at a car boot....They have zero business experience
Show me a successful entrepreneur with a 100% success record - there sin't one you learn by your mistakes - However politicians keep repeating them ad infiinitum which is the very definition of delusionary insanity
This is my last post on Soton - Lowe out of misguided loyalty retuned to an empty boardroom in July 2008 - the club was broken and doomed on and off the pitch - he left in December as it was unsalvagable. The people who replaced him couldn' t save them either between Dec2008 and May 2009. [Post edited 31 May 2:08]
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| Reform or Restore ? on 01:54 - May 31 with 2540 views | oldtownjack |
That's a tough one. It's like asking would you prefer syphilis or gonorrhea. Both will give you a nasty dose but only one is potentailly terminal. [Post edited 31 May 1:55]
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| Reform or Restore ? on 07:30 - May 31 with 2474 views | builthjack |
| Reform or Restore ? on 19:09 - May 30 by Scotia |
Rupert Lowe saw Southampton FC ending up in administration and League 1. After nearly 3 decades in the top flight
He advocates abolishing renewable energy schemes but has his farm in Gloucester covered in solar panels.
He's broadly anti Islam but his son has married a Muslim and has a halal wedding celebration.
And he thinks it's possible to row from Calais to Great Yarmouth.
But he does hate Farage, so that's in his favour. |
Lowes son must be hugely embarrassed and ashamed of him.
Constant racist remarks from his father. He doesn’t deserve to see his grandkids. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Reform or Restore ? on 08:58 - May 31 with 2452 views | onehunglow |
| Reform or Restore ? on 07:30 - May 31 by builthjack |
Lowes son must be hugely embarrassed and ashamed of him.
Constant racist remarks from his father. He doesn’t deserve to see his grandkids. |
My God
Not content with hammering Lowe, you choose his family
Clear signs here and inability to think laterally
The left are like Stepford Wives | |
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| Reform or Restore ? on 09:00 - May 31 with 2451 views | onehunglow |
| Reform or Restore ? on 20:28 - May 30 by Demitrius |
Well that was a complete waste of my time - as usual...
You think any of today's other PMs and MPs could run a business?
Most of the imbeciles in Westminster past and present couldn't run a bath or a stall at a car boot....They have zero business experience
Show me a successful entrepreneur with a 100% success record - there sin't one you learn by your mistakes - However politicians keep repeating them ad infiinitum which is the very definition of delusionary insanity
This is my last post on Soton - Lowe out of misguided loyalty retuned to an empty boardroom in July 2008 - the club was broken and doomed on and off the pitch - he left in December as it was unsalvagable. The people who replaced him couldn' t save them either between Dec2008 and May 2009. [Post edited 31 May 2:08]
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Reform Restore clearly ruffling feathers
The truth is reality and it stings | |
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| Reform or Restore ? on 21:33 - May 31 with 2381 views | builthjack |
| Reform or Restore ? on 08:58 - May 31 by onehunglow |
My God
Not content with hammering Lowe, you choose his family
Clear signs here and inability to think laterally
The left are like Stepford Wives |
So you think it’s ok for Lowe to say what he did.
Wow. You are lower than low. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Reform or Restore ? on 10:19 - Jun 1 with 2287 views | onehunglow |
| Reform or Restore ? on 21:33 - May 31 by builthjack |
So you think it’s ok for Lowe to say what he did.
Wow. You are lower than low. |
Now now now
Free speech
Or don’t you like it
If you want a poisonous spat , look elsewhere Ken
May the Great Spirit guide you
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| Reform or Restore ? on 11:01 - Jun 1 with 2272 views | onehunglow |
| Reform or Restore ? on 21:33 - May 31 by builthjack |
So you think it’s ok for Lowe to say what he did.
Wow. You are lower than low. |
I challenge you to accept that post is inappropriate
There is no need for this crap
You need to accept that , apologise to me and withdraw but mainly learn
It’s never too late
Have a beautiful day
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| Reform or Restore ? on 14:16 - Jun 1 with 2234 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Restore and Lowe are posh boy English and are about ending Welsh semi autonomy rule via the Senedd. This means they are traitors on my eyes and favour regime change. They plan is to transfer powers from Wales to London. Rule by Welsh for Welsh to Rule by Anglo Asians from London. Zia Yousuf has already been to Wales and thought it a good idea to threaten our institutions. He knew we were a polite tolerant bunch. Yes a man called Zia making threats against Bangor University..
Reform appear on the surface to generally tolerate at least the Senedd but I do not trust them. Their supporters had a rabid anti Welsh who are may be a minority by may be a majority. Laura Jones wants to get rid of the Senedd but has been told probably to button it. The fellow James Evans from Built Wells way on the other hand is a decent fellow and proud Welshmen. Reform should go all in people Wales pro language pro Senedd and pro CWL airport and drop English nationalism. We Welsh are the oldest indigenous people and deserve more respect from the right wing parties. Why not? Become a right wing version of PC. Gwlad seem old bloke loyalists and have a wind turbine obsession.
Reform like the poodle O'Conell is a lapdog promoting English interests in his debut speech. Not a good sign. OBE in the way
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| Reform or Restore ? on 23:03 - Jun 1 with 2130 views | builthjack |
| Reform or Restore ? on 11:01 - Jun 1 by onehunglow |
I challenge you to accept that post is inappropriate
There is no need for this crap
You need to accept that , apologise to me and withdraw but mainly learn
It’s never too late
Have a beautiful day
Praise Jesus |
You started it pal. If you dish out be prepared to take it.
As you said a few years ago, you enjoyed bashing miners over the head with your truncheon during the strike. The poor buggers couldn’t fight back. But I will. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Reform or Restore ? on 00:04 - Jun 2 with 2094 views | Demitrius |
"Gwlad....have a wind turbine obsession."
Have you considered sending them your CV ? [Post edited 2 Jun 0:04]
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| Reform or Restore ? on 07:51 - Jun 2 with 2018 views | onehunglow |
| Reform or Restore ? on 23:03 - Jun 1 by builthjack |
You started it pal. If you dish out be prepared to take it.
As you said a few years ago, you enjoyed bashing miners over the head with your truncheon during the strike. The poor buggers couldn’t fight back. But I will. |
Oh no I didn’t
Careful what you read
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| Reform or Restore ? on 07:55 - Jun 2 with 2014 views | johnlangy |
Here we go again. Yet another thread being ruined. And you'll both probably say 'well he started it '. | | | |
| Reform or Restore ? on 11:02 - Jun 2 with 1973 views | onehunglow |
| Reform or Restore ? on 07:55 - Jun 2 by johnlangy |
Here we go again. Yet another thread being ruined. And you'll both probably say 'well he started it '. |
Read what I’ve posted John
He’s really been at it for many years
I’m sick of it
He’s back on ignore
However it does show how personal political views are | |
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| Reform or Restore ? on 11:05 - Jun 2 with 1971 views | onehunglow |
| Reform or Restore ? on 07:55 - Jun 2 by johnlangy |
Here we go again. Yet another thread being ruined. And you'll both probably say 'well he started it '. |
Fir what it’s worth,I value your posts and because if that I tend to challenge those who can’t debate with respect
I don’t like many of your views but that’s my problem
I don’t like resolven trample or controversial material but it would not surprise me if they were tidy folk.
I’d buy them a small drink anyway as I like a debate even though I’m always right  | |
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