| And another farce 16:32 - Jul 3 with 1218 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Having let him out despite the misgivings of the parole panel, the Government says we are looking at ways to deport him. What the fcuk is going on in this country?
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| And another farce on 17:00 - Jul 3 with 1176 views | onehunglow |
We are giving it away |  |
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| And another farce on 17:18 - Jul 3 with 1161 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| And another farce on 17:00 - Jul 3 by onehunglow |
We are giving it away |
You'd think somebody somewhere in the whole criminal justice system would notice that there was a decision to be made. Say what you like about Trump but he wouldn't put up with this sh1t. | |
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| And another farce on 17:38 - Jul 3 with 1143 views | majorraglan |
The government didn’t have a choice about leaving him out, once he’s served 2/3rds of his sentence in prison he’s automatically released on licence for the last 1/3 - that’s the law.
My personal view is that the government should go everything possible to deport this guy, an agreement was signed by the UK and Pakistan governments in 2022 re transferring /deporting criminals and other illegals and this guy should be on the next plane. All the formalities re deportation should have been addressed when he was first banged up.
If Pakistan won’t accept him, I think we should just stop issuing visas to Pakistani citizens who want to come to the UK until the Pakistani government take him back. The current government introduced a “visa break” for 4 countries earlier this year and have stopped people from those countries entering the U.K. we should look at adding Pakistan to the list if they won’t take him back. I think that would focus the minds a little! [Post edited 3 Jul 18:40]
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| And another farce on 17:39 - Jul 3 with 1141 views | onehunglow |
| And another farce on 17:18 - Jul 3 by JACKMANANDBOY |
You'd think somebody somewhere in the whole criminal justice system would notice that there was a decision to be made. Say what you like about Trump but he wouldn't put up with this sh1t. |
I detest Trumpas as a man but you’re right here | |
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| And another farce on 02:05 - Jul 4 with 1016 views | Robbie |
The silence from The Home Office , Department of Justice and even any current so called Government we have in place is deafening to my ears , and I tolerate nonsense waffle .
Voting patterns emerging , lets not upset the minorities by chucking them out of the UK .
Rules and Regulations I appreciate and is necessary to contain a decent enviroment we all need to live peacefully amongst all of us . | | | |
| And another farce on 05:56 - Jul 4 with 998 views | AnotherJohn |
| And another farce on 17:38 - Jul 3 by majorraglan |
The government didn’t have a choice about leaving him out, once he’s served 2/3rds of his sentence in prison he’s automatically released on licence for the last 1/3 - that’s the law.
My personal view is that the government should go everything possible to deport this guy, an agreement was signed by the UK and Pakistan governments in 2022 re transferring /deporting criminals and other illegals and this guy should be on the next plane. All the formalities re deportation should have been addressed when he was first banged up.
If Pakistan won’t accept him, I think we should just stop issuing visas to Pakistani citizens who want to come to the UK until the Pakistani government take him back. The current government introduced a “visa break” for 4 countries earlier this year and have stopped people from those countries entering the U.K. we should look at adding Pakistan to the list if they won’t take him back. I think that would focus the minds a little! [Post edited 3 Jul 18:40]
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As far as I understand things, that is correct. The Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022 has tightened up the rules for certain high-risk offenders sentenced after April 2020 so that release under license is still dependent on parole board approval., but this does not apply retrospectively. One wonders whether the 2022 Act should have been drafted to take account of cases like that of Ahmed.
Ahmed escapes deportation because of a provision of the Citizenship Act, and I see that some MPs are calling for this to be amended. I imagine this would have to be done before the UK Government could put pressure on Pakistan to accept Ahmed's deportation. | | | |
| And another farce on 16:53 - Jul 4 with 901 views | Dippersmate |
| And another farce on 17:18 - Jul 3 by JACKMANANDBOY |
You'd think somebody somewhere in the whole criminal justice system would notice that there was a decision to be made. Say what you like about Trump but he wouldn't put up with this sh1t. |
But then, he is doing insider trading to enrich (even more) himself, family and friends. He has caused his own citizens to be murdered by ICE. He has started a war and given encouragement to Putin.
It is hardly a net gain. | | | |
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| And another farce on 09:41 - Jul 6 with 690 views | controversial_jack |
| And another farce on 05:56 - Jul 4 by AnotherJohn |
As far as I understand things, that is correct. The Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022 has tightened up the rules for certain high-risk offenders sentenced after April 2020 so that release under license is still dependent on parole board approval., but this does not apply retrospectively. One wonders whether the 2022 Act should have been drafted to take account of cases like that of Ahmed.
Ahmed escapes deportation because of a provision of the Citizenship Act, and I see that some MPs are calling for this to be amended. I imagine this would have to be done before the UK Government could put pressure on Pakistan to accept Ahmed's deportation. |
It's to do with the 1971 immigration act. don't ask me the details | | | |
| And another farce on 11:26 - Jul 6 with 656 views | AnotherJohn |
| And another farce on 09:41 - Jul 6 by controversial_jack |
It's to do with the 1971 immigration act. don't ask me the details |
Yes, in trying to be brief I perhaps misstated the situation. Sections 6 and 7 of the Immigration Act 1971 exempt certain Commonwealth citizens from deportation. In Ahmed's case, the key provision is s7 which says Commonwealth citizens who were settled in the UK before 1 January 1973 and lived there for at least five years are protected from deportation. Ahmed arrived in the 1960s. MPs are talking about amending the Citizenship Act (AKA British Nationality Act 1981) to remove or limit s7 protections because they think this is a better approach than amending the 1971 Act (which the 1981 Act has partially superseded). All I was saying really is that even before the UK Govt did anything to persuade Pakistan to take Ahmed, it would need to change the law to stop HR lawyers getting a UK court to block the deportation. | | | |
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