| The real cost of immigrant care workers 02:15 - Jul 7 with 1753 views | AnotherJohn |
A story about how 12 care worker visas opened the way for over 100 family reunification visas.
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| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 07:27 - Jul 7 with 1302 views | Dr_Winston |
The Boriswave.
The small boats are a problem and need to be stopped, but this is and always has been the bigger issue. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 16:29 - Jul 7 with 1202 views | Scotia |
Those flipping careworkers coming here to wipe British arses for £12.71 an hour becasue British people won't do it. Who do they think they are? | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 16:34 - Jul 7 with 1200 views | JJBomber |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 07:27 - Jul 7 by Dr_Winston |
The Boriswave.
The small boats are a problem and need to be stopped, but this is and always has been the bigger issue. |
Totally different. People coming here legally are not entitled to any benefits for 3 years and only then if they have paid enough NI contributions. The (bogus) asylum seekers on the boats, and most still come in the back of lorries, are not allowed to work for 6 months and live on benefits from day 1. | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 16:42 - Jul 7 with 1192 views | Dr_Winston |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 16:34 - Jul 7 by JJBomber |
Totally different. People coming here legally are not entitled to any benefits for 3 years and only then if they have paid enough NI contributions. The (bogus) asylum seekers on the boats, and most still come in the back of lorries, are not allowed to work for 6 months and live on benefits from day 1. |
Yet they can still access social housing, NHS, schooling etc if they've come to join someone with legal status. If a family with children needs housing they shoot right up the ladder.
It's not just about claiming direct benefits, it's about the effect of adding 10-15m (conservatively) to the population without an equivalent increase in income to meet the demands of them and the long term cost of doing so.
That's ignoring the insanity of one worker being allowed to bring in 15 dependents. Who are they? Mum? Dad? Uncle Samuel? [Post edited 7 Jul 16:43]
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| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 17:22 - Jul 7 with 1148 views | Boundy |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 16:29 - Jul 7 by Scotia |
Those flipping careworkers coming here to wipe British arses for £12.71 an hour becasue British people won't do it. Who do they think they are? |
And yet we have (this) final year paramedics , nurses and midwife’s being told there’s no job s for them and yet when it comes to Nigerian or Indian staff there’s work for them so you’re analogy doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 17:30 - Jul 7 with 1131 views | Scotia |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 17:22 - Jul 7 by Boundy |
And yet we have (this) final year paramedics , nurses and midwife’s being told there’s no job s for them and yet when it comes to Nigerian or Indian staff there’s work for them so you’re analogy doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. |
Because the skilled foreign staff plugged a gap we needed at the time, they have employment rights we all benefit from. Do you seriously think we could wait for British people to qualify and become competent? | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 17:32 - Jul 7 with 1118 views | Scotia |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 16:42 - Jul 7 by Dr_Winston |
Yet they can still access social housing, NHS, schooling etc if they've come to join someone with legal status. If a family with children needs housing they shoot right up the ladder.
It's not just about claiming direct benefits, it's about the effect of adding 10-15m (conservatively) to the population without an equivalent increase in income to meet the demands of them and the long term cost of doing so.
That's ignoring the insanity of one worker being allowed to bring in 15 dependents. Who are they? Mum? Dad? Uncle Samuel? [Post edited 7 Jul 16:43]
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And they aren't going to go home unlike past EU migrants. Eventually they'll get ILR and get universal credit too.
The number one way to reduce immigration is reduce the need. | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 17:36 - Jul 7 with 1103 views | Whiterockin |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 17:32 - Jul 7 by Scotia |
And they aren't going to go home unlike past EU migrants. Eventually they'll get ILR and get universal credit too.
The number one way to reduce immigration is reduce the need. |
Do we need everyone coming in illegally. |  | | |
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| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 17:47 - Jul 7 with 1058 views | max936 |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 16:29 - Jul 7 by Scotia |
Those flipping careworkers coming here to wipe British arses for £12.71 an hour becasue British people won't do it. Who do they think they are? |
Well there's half a dozen welsh british care staff who call here to do exactly that for my youngest, in fact there's two here right now, so that's a load of bollox. [Post edited 7 Jul 18:41]
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| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 17:53 - Jul 7 with 1032 views | Scotia |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 16:42 - Jul 7 by Dr_Winston |
Yet they can still access social housing, NHS, schooling etc if they've come to join someone with legal status. If a family with children needs housing they shoot right up the ladder.
It's not just about claiming direct benefits, it's about the effect of adding 10-15m (conservatively) to the population without an equivalent increase in income to meet the demands of them and the long term cost of doing so.
That's ignoring the insanity of one worker being allowed to bring in 15 dependents. Who are they? Mum? Dad? Uncle Samuel? [Post edited 7 Jul 16:43]
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And they aren't going to go home unlike past EU migrants. Eventually they'll get ILR and get universal credit too.
The number one way to reduce immigration is reduce the need. | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 17:58 - Jul 7 with 1022 views | Whiterockin |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 17:53 - Jul 7 by Scotia |
And they aren't going to go home unlike past EU migrants. Eventually they'll get ILR and get universal credit too.
The number one way to reduce immigration is reduce the need. |
Over 40% of immigrants are on studying visas or are members of their family. | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 18:12 - Jul 7 with 988 views | controversial_jack |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 17:47 - Jul 7 by max936 |
Well there's half a dozen welsh british care staff who call here to do exactly that for my youngest, in fact there's two here right now, so that's a load of bollox. [Post edited 7 Jul 18:41]
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Quite a large proportion are foreign workers. Best wishes to your youngest | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 18:17 - Jul 7 with 983 views | Scotia |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 17:36 - Jul 7 by Whiterockin |
Do we need everyone coming in illegally. |
Ask people who vape, get their nails done, food delivered, get a Uber,Turkish haircut, car wash etc.
I don't. | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 18:18 - Jul 7 with 979 views | Whiterockin |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 18:12 - Jul 7 by controversial_jack |
Quite a large proportion are foreign workers. Best wishes to your youngest |
Nearly 70% of care workers in the UK are not immigrants. | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 18:47 - Jul 7 with 949 views | fishman |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 18:18 - Jul 7 by Whiterockin |
Nearly 70% of care workers in the UK are not immigrants. |
79.4% percentages are just made up  | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 19:33 - Jul 7 with 915 views | Scotia |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 18:18 - Jul 7 by Whiterockin |
Nearly 70% of care workers in the UK are not immigrants. |
And how many British people are economically inactive. | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 19:37 - Jul 7 with 914 views | Whiterockin |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 19:33 - Jul 7 by Scotia |
And how many British people are economically inactive. |
It ridicules the argument that its only immigrants in the care sector because British won't do it. [Post edited 7 Jul 19:37]
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| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 19:40 - Jul 7 with 902 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 16:29 - Jul 7 by Scotia |
Those flipping careworkers coming here to wipe British arses for £12.71 an hour becasue British people won't do it. Who do they think they are? |
That’s a bit disrespectful tbh. There’s a lot more to that job than just “wiping arses”. When my gran had to go into a home with dementia there was a lovely carer called Gary I think his name was used to sit with her for a chat and a cup of tea. Was absolutely lovely with her. That was more valuable than anything. He got moved to a decent section and we were gutted. My gran would always ask where the “nice man” was.
Yes they should be paid more but when there’s a ready supply of people willing to work for the lowest possible wage then wages will inevitably always stay as low as possible. If jobs were better paid then there’d be loads of people wanting to do it. |  |
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| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 19:48 - Jul 7 with 893 views | Whiterockin |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 19:40 - Jul 7 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
That’s a bit disrespectful tbh. There’s a lot more to that job than just “wiping arses”. When my gran had to go into a home with dementia there was a lovely carer called Gary I think his name was used to sit with her for a chat and a cup of tea. Was absolutely lovely with her. That was more valuable than anything. He got moved to a decent section and we were gutted. My gran would always ask where the “nice man” was.
Yes they should be paid more but when there’s a ready supply of people willing to work for the lowest possible wage then wages will inevitably always stay as low as possible. If jobs were better paid then there’d be loads of people wanting to do it. |
There's those who know and understand, then there are others who are just clueless attention seekers. | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 20:54 - Jul 7 with 854 views | Scotia |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 19:48 - Jul 7 by Whiterockin |
There's those who know and understand, then there are others who are just clueless attention seekers. |
Well this clueless attention seeker has been a respite carer for many years, and until recently my wife worked closely with Swansea RST team. Majorly staffed by immigrants, often Nigerian.
She'd be very stressed this time of the year because their student Visas would expire they'd go home and there wouldn't be enough staff to cover the basic rota let alone emergency extra work she was involved with.
There's a lot more to it than wiping arses, it's hard work. Probably the most undervalued job in the UK. It deserves to be paid more but who's going to foot the bill? | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 21:07 - Jul 7 with 845 views | max936 |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 19:40 - Jul 7 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
That’s a bit disrespectful tbh. There’s a lot more to that job than just “wiping arses”. When my gran had to go into a home with dementia there was a lovely carer called Gary I think his name was used to sit with her for a chat and a cup of tea. Was absolutely lovely with her. That was more valuable than anything. He got moved to a decent section and we were gutted. My gran would always ask where the “nice man” was.
Yes they should be paid more but when there’s a ready supply of people willing to work for the lowest possible wage then wages will inevitably always stay as low as possible. If jobs were better paid then there’d be loads of people wanting to do it. |
I replied about care staff that call here to care for my youngest, it didn't fit his narrative though, so my post has been ignored.
They call twice a week Tuesday and Thursdays they're for 6hrs and once a fortnight on a Saturday for 8hrs
My lad is on so many meds and is peg fed his poo is like water 99% of the time, I've obviously dealt with those situations millions of times in his 29yrs, I'll spare you the details. | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 03:57 - Jul 8 with 758 views | AnotherJohn |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 16:29 - Jul 7 by Scotia |
Those flipping careworkers coming here to wipe British arses for £12.71 an hour becasue British people won't do it. Who do they think they are? |
In a scenario where 10 plus dependents accompany the care worker the real cost to the economy hugely exceeds £12.71 an hour. Ten is exceptional of course, but the average number of accompanying dependents for some nationalities is close to that. This kind of imbalance and the impact on the welfare budget simply isn't sustainable. | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 06:23 - Jul 8 with 735 views | Scotia |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 03:57 - Jul 8 by AnotherJohn |
In a scenario where 10 plus dependents accompany the care worker the real cost to the economy hugely exceeds £12.71 an hour. Ten is exceptional of course, but the average number of accompanying dependents for some nationalities is close to that. This kind of imbalance and the impact on the welfare budget simply isn't sustainable. |
And precisely why immigration needs to be controlled. The first way to control immigration is reduce the need, across all sectors, at the moment we're exacerbating it. | | | |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 08:55 - Jul 8 with 680 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 19:40 - Jul 7 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
That’s a bit disrespectful tbh. There’s a lot more to that job than just “wiping arses”. When my gran had to go into a home with dementia there was a lovely carer called Gary I think his name was used to sit with her for a chat and a cup of tea. Was absolutely lovely with her. That was more valuable than anything. He got moved to a decent section and we were gutted. My gran would always ask where the “nice man” was.
Yes they should be paid more but when there’s a ready supply of people willing to work for the lowest possible wage then wages will inevitably always stay as low as possible. If jobs were better paid then there’d be loads of people wanting to do it. |
Spot on, a friend has a mother with heart failure. She can take care of herself and is fine cognitively. She does need help with physical tasks, even standing up to make a meal is difficult. She has a carer who does all the physical activity for her, is a good companion and friend. |  |
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| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 10:59 - Jul 8 with 627 views | controversial_jack |
| The real cost of immigrant care workers on 18:18 - Jul 7 by Whiterockin |
Nearly 70% of care workers in the UK are not immigrants. |
Which is quite a large proportion of immigrants 32% [Post edited 8 Jul 13:54]
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