| passionate anthem, one problem 17:05 - Jun 12 with 3675 views | trefelinjack |
Why is it so fast? fans singing out of time sounds terrible
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:10 - Jun 12 with 2795 views | Highjack |
It's because sound doesn't travel very fast so there's a difference between the people in the stands hearing it and the cameras next to the band picking it up, resulting in the apparent delay. |  |
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:23 - Jun 12 with 2738 views | dickythorpe |
Its always been sung out of sync plus the last line "o bydded Ir hen iath barhau" is often mixed up with the line before the chorus "tros rydded collassant ei gweud" |  | | |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:23 - Jun 12 with 2733 views | dickythorpe |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:23 - Jun 12 by dickythorpe |
Its always been sung out of sync plus the last line "o bydded Ir hen iath barhau" is often mixed up with the line before the chorus "tros rydded collassant ei gweud" |
Plus the amount of drunks doesn't help! | | | |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:28 - Jun 12 with 2712 views | blueytheblue |
If watching in HD, sounds and picture aren't always synched. But pissed up fans never sing in time anyway. | |
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:35 - Jun 12 with 2689 views | GrandPrix |
Just watched the recorded game at home after being in the stadium yesterday, sounds awful on TV, in the stand it was in time with the music and sounded so load and amazing it was unreal.......many people with tears rolling down their cheeks singing it too, absolute class.
Poor on TV though |  |
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:49 - Jun 12 with 2645 views | Highjack |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:35 - Jun 12 by GrandPrix |
Just watched the recorded game at home after being in the stadium yesterday, sounds awful on TV, in the stand it was in time with the music and sounded so load and amazing it was unreal.......many people with tears rolling down their cheeks singing it too, absolute class.
Poor on TV though |
Yep it's because in the stand you are hearing the sound about a second after the music is played, and it takes another second for the singing to get back to the mic on the pitch. So it sounds like the fans are singing about two seconds after the music is played. It's relativity in action. | |
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:54 - Jun 12 with 2630 views | trefelinjack |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:49 - Jun 12 by Highjack |
Yep it's because in the stand you are hearing the sound about a second after the music is played, and it takes another second for the singing to get back to the mic on the pitch. So it sounds like the fans are singing about two seconds after the music is played. It's relativity in action. |
If that is true why doesn't it affect other anthems. The English fans seem spot on with their timings. So are every other countries fans | | | |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:57 - Jun 12 with 2615 views | blueytheblue |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:54 - Jun 12 by trefelinjack |
If that is true why doesn't it affect other anthems. The English fans seem spot on with their timings. So are every other countries fans |
The English one was barely in the same day let alone time... | |
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 18:00 - Jun 12 with 2597 views | Highjack |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:54 - Jun 12 by trefelinjack |
If that is true why doesn't it affect other anthems. The English fans seem spot on with their timings. So are every other countries fans |
Best guess is most games would have microphones around the ground so it captures all the sound, both in the crowd and in the middle, whilst yesterday the only sound recorded seemed to be from the camera on the pitch. | |
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 18:08 - Jun 12 with 2571 views | exiledclaseboy |
The version of the Welsh anthem played yesterday did seem a bit more up tempo than usual mind. [Post edited 12 Jun 2016 18:14]
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 18:45 - Jun 12 with 2490 views | JackFish |
Nah you could hear in the ground that it wasn't in time to the music. |  | | |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 18:54 - Jun 12 with 2477 views | whiterock |
Simple answer, just let the fans sing it on their own, no music and we don't need a female opera singer either | | | |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 18:56 - Jun 12 with 2469 views | Cooperman |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:49 - Jun 12 by Highjack |
Yep it's because in the stand you are hearing the sound about a second after the music is played, and it takes another second for the singing to get back to the mic on the pitch. So it sounds like the fans are singing about two seconds after the music is played. It's relativity in action. |
I think you under estimate the speed of sound. |  |
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:04 - Jun 12 with 2443 views | karnataka |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 18:54 - Jun 12 by whiterock |
Simple answer, just let the fans sing it on their own, no music and we don't need a female opera singer either |
Yeah, that would be good! Without any music nobody would know when to start or have anything to synchronise to so everyone would do their own thing. Utter chaos. Why do you think bands have drummers? |  | | |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:04 - Jun 12 with 2443 views | Highjack |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 18:56 - Jun 12 by Cooperman |
I think you under estimate the speed of sound. |
Probably. I'm just talking bollocks most of the time. | |
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:07 - Jun 12 with 2425 views | Jackfath |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:57 - Jun 12 by blueytheblue |
The English one was barely in the same day let alone time... |
I was waiting for the English anthem but they played the British one instead. |  |
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:11 - Jun 12 with 2415 views | monmouth |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:04 - Jun 12 by karnataka |
Yeah, that would be good! Without any music nobody would know when to start or have anything to synchronise to so everyone would do their own thing. Utter chaos. Why do you think bands have drummers? |
To get pissed and punch guitarists? [Post edited 12 Jun 2016 19:11]
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:17 - Jun 12 with 2396 views | karnataka |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:04 - Jun 12 by Highjack |
Probably. I'm just talking bollocks most of the time. |
There shouldn't be any problem with music/singing synchronisation because with a decent sound system and decent speakers at regular intervals around the entire stadium, everyone would hear the music pretty close to simultaneously. The problem is emotional causes the individual singer to speed up and individuals speed up at different rates. An audience clapping along with a live band almost always speed up and sometimes it's shocking. | | | |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:23 - Jun 12 with 2378 views | monmouth |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:17 - Jun 12 by karnataka |
There shouldn't be any problem with music/singing synchronisation because with a decent sound system and decent speakers at regular intervals around the entire stadium, everyone would hear the music pretty close to simultaneously. The problem is emotional causes the individual singer to speed up and individuals speed up at different rates. An audience clapping along with a live band almost always speed up and sometimes it's shocking. |
Bastards also clap on the 'on' beat. | |
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:26 - Jun 12 with 2365 views | Loyal |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:11 - Jun 12 by monmouth |
To get pissed and punch guitarists? [Post edited 12 Jun 2016 19:11]
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Bass guitarists ? |  |
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:53 - Jun 12 with 2318 views | monmouth |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:26 - Jun 12 by Loyal |
Bass guitarists ? |
If no proper ones are available, yes. | |
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 21:12 - Jun 12 with 2204 views | ploppy |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 17:23 - Jun 12 by dickythorpe |
Its always been sung out of sync plus the last line "o bydded Ir hen iath barhau" is often mixed up with the line before the chorus "tros rydded collassant ei gweud" |
"Dros ryddid collasant eu gwaed" - just saying, like.
Anyway, in response to the OP - the verse was out of time to me (music ahead of crowd) because it was a higher tempo than normal. However, the chorus was slightly better I thought, due to a longer than normal pause before "Gwlad, gwlad", which allowed the crowd to catch up a little.
That's my in-depth analysis of the anthem for you. | | | |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 08:05 - Jun 13 with 2080 views | karnataka |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:23 - Jun 12 by monmouth |
Bastards also clap on the 'on' beat. |
Yes, I've always hated that too, clapping on 1 & 3 instead of 2 & 4. | | | |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 08:19 - Jun 13 with 2065 views | hammy |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:07 - Jun 12 by Jackfath |
I was waiting for the English anthem but they played the British one instead. |
And the Northern Irish too ? No imagination some UK countries LOL |  |
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| passionate anthem, one problem on 08:36 - Jun 13 with 2042 views | karnataka |
| passionate anthem, one problem on 19:11 - Jun 12 by monmouth |
To get pissed and punch guitarists? [Post edited 12 Jun 2016 19:11]
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What sort of bands do you go and see ffs? | | | |
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