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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government 15:14 - Mar 1 with 2041 viewstheloneranger

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Even by this government’s standards it’s a shockingly cruel move.

Last month a tribunal of judges ruled that claimants with mental health conditions such as severe anxiety have a right to claim even the higher rate of PIP for help with going outdoors.

It was a decision that put an end to years of the DWP deliberately misinterpreting the law. It meant that many thousands of people with serious mental health conditions finally had a chance to gain a little bit more independence.

So the government acted with remarkable speed.

Bypassing the social security advisory committee, who are supposed to get the chance to comment on all changes to social security law, they published a statutory instrument that will reverse the judges’ decision.

In an effort to justify overturning the judges’ ruling, Tory policy supremo George Freeman mocked as “bizarre” the idea that claimants with mental health conditions should be eligible for PIP. Instead, he said, PIP should only be for “the really disabled people who need it.”

The changes will apply to all claims made from 16 March, 2017.

Just a few days ago we had the following feedback by email.

“Just wanted to say thank you so much for your amazing site! I have used your advice over the years for my son’s DLA applications with great success, have now had his PIP awarded for enhanced care, and after mandatory reconsideration, got the award for mobility as well (thanks to your advice about the tribunal rulings on this for people with a mental health issue).”

Unless attempts by the Lib Dems and Labour to overturn the statutory instrument are successful, and that seems a very long shot, we won’t be seeing many more emails like that.
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Everyday above ground ... Is a good day! 😎

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 15:26 - Mar 1 with 1863 viewsHighjack

Just went for a browse on this benefits and work site, but there's not much on there. All the important information is behind a £19.95 a month pay wall.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 15:43 - Mar 1 with 1839 viewstheloneranger

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 15:26 - Mar 1 by Highjack

Just went for a browse on this benefits and work site, but there's not much on there. All the important information is behind a £19.95 a month pay wall.


It's £19.95 per year,

It's one of the best sites to help people get what they are entitled to. Helping vulnerable people through the minefield of completing forms and help at tribunals etc

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 16:31 - Mar 1 with 1799 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 15:43 - Mar 1 by theloneranger

It's £19.95 per year,

It's one of the best sites to help people get what they are entitled to. Helping vulnerable people through the minefield of completing forms and help at tribunals etc


It's how they roll

Seriously now they really couldn't give a flying f@ck.

Even Thatcher wasn't as bad as these lot, I'll give her that .

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 16:46 - Mar 1 with 1776 viewscontroversial_jack

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 16:31 - Mar 1 by oh_tommy_tommy

It's how they roll

Seriously now they really couldn't give a flying f@ck.

Even Thatcher wasn't as bad as these lot, I'll give her that .


It's all Corbyn's fault!.
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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 18:09 - Mar 1 with 1724 viewsHighjack

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 15:43 - Mar 1 by theloneranger

It's £19.95 per year,

It's one of the best sites to help people get what they are entitled to. Helping vulnerable people through the minefield of completing forms and help at tribunals etc


Good, I was worried for a moment that they may be shameless capitalist pig dogs profiteering off people's misery.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 18:53 - Mar 1 with 1691 viewsalltjack

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 16:31 - Mar 1 by oh_tommy_tommy

It's how they roll

Seriously now they really couldn't give a flying f@ck.

Even Thatcher wasn't as bad as these lot, I'll give her that .


She was
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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 19:23 - Mar 1 with 1655 viewsperchrockjack

Altogether now


Let's sing the internationale

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 19:47 - Mar 1 with 1629 viewsLohengrin

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 16:31 - Mar 1 by oh_tommy_tommy

It's how they roll

Seriously now they really couldn't give a flying f@ck.

Even Thatcher wasn't as bad as these lot, I'll give her that .


Talking of bad lots on a related theme, folk would do well to remember that predation of the unprotected was pioneered by Labour Party founder and erstwhile Aberafan MP, Ramsey MacDonald, who oversaw a 10% cut in unemployment benefit and ushered in the degrading Means Test.

Here he is with the original rogues gallery. A more inept collection of third-rate failures (George Lansbury aside) you'll never see collected in one place at the same time.

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 19:55 - Mar 1 with 1608 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 19:47 - Mar 1 by Lohengrin

Talking of bad lots on a related theme, folk would do well to remember that predation of the unprotected was pioneered by Labour Party founder and erstwhile Aberafan MP, Ramsey MacDonald, who oversaw a 10% cut in unemployment benefit and ushered in the degrading Means Test.

Here he is with the original rogues gallery. A more inept collection of third-rate failures (George Lansbury aside) you'll never see collected in one place at the same time.

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Thank you Loh, I'll read up on that .

Wasn't he expelled from the Labour Party?

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:06 - Mar 1 with 1598 viewsLohengrin

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 19:55 - Mar 1 by oh_tommy_tommy

Thank you Loh, I'll read up on that .

Wasn't he expelled from the Labour Party?


Yes he was along with Philip Snowden and Jimmy Thomas at the formation of the National Government in 1931.

Talking of expulsions how many now recall that Nye Bevan was thrown out of the Labour Party in 1939 for sharing platforms with and his outspoken support for the Soviet at the time of the invasion of Finland? He obviously managed to worm his way back in but I'd imagine that's a tawdry episode his modern day admirers would rather be kept quiet.

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:11 - Mar 1 with 1590 viewsLohengrin

Here you go, Tommy - beg, steal or borrow a copy of this. It's the benchmark text on the most tumultuous time in British Politics, outside of the world wars, in the twentieth century. Absolutely essential reading.


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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:12 - Mar 1 with 1586 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:06 - Mar 1 by Lohengrin

Yes he was along with Philip Snowden and Jimmy Thomas at the formation of the National Government in 1931.

Talking of expulsions how many now recall that Nye Bevan was thrown out of the Labour Party in 1939 for sharing platforms with and his outspoken support for the Soviet at the time of the invasion of Finland? He obviously managed to worm his way back in but I'd imagine that's a tawdry episode his modern day admirers would rather be kept quiet.


Ha ha really

So our hero was a scruffy socialist commie then!
Good on him 😉
We all have our dark secrets Loh.
Especially the political elite .

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:17 - Mar 1 with 1571 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:11 - Mar 1 by Lohengrin

Here you go, Tommy - beg, steal or borrow a copy of this. It's the benchmark text on the most tumultuous time in British Politics, outside of the world wars, in the twentieth century. Absolutely essential reading.



City of London again up to their old tricks I'd take a stab at .

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:19 - Mar 1 with 1567 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Means Test was introduced by the McDonald-led National Government, the formation of which led to McDonald's expulsion from the Labour Party. Lohengrin is being unsurprisingly disingenuous by tying its introduction to Labour.

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:21 - Mar 1 with 1564 viewsLohengrin

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:12 - Mar 1 by oh_tommy_tommy

Ha ha really

So our hero was a scruffy socialist commie then!
Good on him 😉
We all have our dark secrets Loh.
Especially the political elite .


Robert Conquest on examination of the Soviet archive estimates some1,750,000 were murdered by Stalin during the Popular Front period when Bevan was acting like a starry-eyed apologist for the monster.

It's easy to draw parallels across the decades between Bevan and Galloway in many respects.

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:22 - Mar 1 with 1559 viewsLohengrin

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:19 - Mar 1 by exiledclaseboy

The Means Test was introduced by the McDonald-led National Government, the formation of which led to McDonald's expulsion from the Labour Party. Lohengrin is being unsurprisingly disingenuous by tying its introduction to Labour.


I'm sorry? Remind me again who MacDonald was.

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:26 - Mar 1 with 1548 viewsexiledclaseboy

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:22 - Mar 1 by Lohengrin

I'm sorry? Remind me again who MacDonald was.


Not a member of the Labour Party at the time of the introduction of the Means Test. Labour had something like 45 MPs at the time.

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:32 - Mar 1 with 1538 viewsLohengrin

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:26 - Mar 1 by exiledclaseboy

Not a member of the Labour Party at the time of the introduction of the Means Test. Labour had something like 45 MPs at the time.


No he wasn't but he was one of The Labour Party's founding signatories and its first Prime Minister. His story and Labour's are intertwined. You cannot mention one without invoking the other in the time-frame we are discussing.

EDIT: How many MPs do you think Labour will have after the next election?
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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:41 - Mar 1 with 1518 viewsexiledclaseboy

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:32 - Mar 1 by Lohengrin

No he wasn't but he was one of The Labour Party's founding signatories and its first Prime Minister. His story and Labour's are intertwined. You cannot mention one without invoking the other in the time-frame we are discussing.

EDIT: How many MPs do you think Labour will have after the next election?
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But it doesn't alter the fact that the Means Test was nothing to do with the Labour Party as you mischievously implied to upset Tommy.

If the election takes place as planned in 2020 and Corbyn is still in charge as well as taking into account upcoming boundary changes I'd expect Labour to be reduced to somewhere between 100-150 MPs. FPTP should ensure they aren't wiped out completely. There's a lot of water to flow under a lot of bridges before then.

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 21:10 - Mar 1 with 1494 viewsperchrockjack

Ive been looking for an excuse to leave this island

Corbin, thornberry, Abbott, chuckyerbutti....


That would do



We ll put you up in a guest room

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 21:25 - Mar 1 with 1468 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 20:41 - Mar 1 by exiledclaseboy

But it doesn't alter the fact that the Means Test was nothing to do with the Labour Party as you mischievously implied to upset Tommy.

If the election takes place as planned in 2020 and Corbyn is still in charge as well as taking into account upcoming boundary changes I'd expect Labour to be reduced to somewhere between 100-150 MPs. FPTP should ensure they aren't wiped out completely. There's a lot of water to flow under a lot of bridges before then.


Upset Tommy😂

Thank you clasie, but I've been here long enough to know what Lohs all about !

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 21:28 - Mar 1 with 1466 viewsexiledclaseboy

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 21:25 - Mar 1 by oh_tommy_tommy

Upset Tommy😂

Thank you clasie, but I've been here long enough to know what Lohs all about !


I know mate, I was only joking.

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 21:31 - Mar 1 with 1461 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 21:10 - Mar 1 by perchrockjack

Ive been looking for an excuse to leave this island

Corbin, thornberry, Abbott, chuckyerbutti....


That would do



We ll put you up in a guest room


Russia Perchie?

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 09:48 - Mar 2 with 1342 viewsperchrockjack

Lol


Funnily my lad took Russian at school (no Welsh option) .


He went to Odessa in Ukraine on exchange visit.


Interesting

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Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 10:15 - Mar 2 with 1327 viewsLohengrin

Heartless and Conniving Conservative Government on 09:48 - Mar 2 by perchrockjack

Lol


Funnily my lad took Russian at school (no Welsh option) .


He went to Odessa in Ukraine on exchange visit.


Interesting


Very. I bet he had a whale of a time!


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