| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment 18:54 - Dec 16 with 3918 views | trampie |
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| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 18:56 - Dec 16 with 2886 views | union_jack |
Crikey Trampie, that's shocked me to the core! |  |
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| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 12:06 - Dec 20 with 2696 views | blaenaugwentjack |
Nice to read some common sense from a political party in wales for a change. |  | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 12:11 - Dec 20 with 2687 views | CountyJim |
Just a stab in the dark here but SE Wales has the highest population compered to other regions |  | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 13:05 - Dec 20 with 2644 views | jack_lord |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 12:11 - Dec 20 by CountyJim |
Just a stab in the dark here but SE Wales has the highest population compered to other regions |
So no one lives in the rest of Wales? |  |
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| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 13:16 - Dec 20 with 2634 views | LeonWasGod |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 12:06 - Dec 20 by blaenaugwentjack |
Nice to read some common sense from a political party in wales for a change. |
They don't say a lot though, other than we shouldn't lose investment (having already established there isn't enough) and we should spread it around. They're right, but it's hardly radical and I can't see it making a massive difference. Wales' problems won't be solved by a new bypass around some provincial town somewhere.
Baby steps though I suppose. |  | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 13:21 - Dec 20 with 2630 views | CountyJim |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 13:05 - Dec 20 by jack_lord |
So no one lives in the rest of Wales? |
I didn't say that but it makes sense that the areas with the biggest population gets more money | | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 14:15 - Dec 20 with 2604 views | blaenaugwentjack |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 13:16 - Dec 20 by LeonWasGod |
They don't say a lot though, other than we shouldn't lose investment (having already established there isn't enough) and we should spread it around. They're right, but it's hardly radical and I can't see it making a massive difference. Wales' problems won't be solved by a new bypass around some provincial town somewhere.
Baby steps though I suppose. |
I agree, but the proposed Swansea to Bangor rail link is a big step in the right direction as is the proposed north/south dualling of the A470 or/and the coastal route. | | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 17:50 - Dec 20 with 2545 views | johnlangy |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 13:21 - Dec 20 by CountyJim |
I didn't say that but it makes sense that the areas with the biggest population gets more money |
Of course it does Jim.
But the situation with Cardiff and the South East of Wales is similar to London and the South East of England which gets far more investment than it deserves at the expanse of the rest of the country. | | | |
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| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 19:14 - Dec 20 with 2516 views | LeonWasGod |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 14:15 - Dec 20 by blaenaugwentjack |
I agree, but the proposed Swansea to Bangor rail link is a big step in the right direction as is the proposed north/south dualling of the A470 or/and the coastal route. |
That’s true enough. It’d be nice to join up the west in those plans. It’s ridiculous how long it takes to get to Aberystwyth considering how close it is. | | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 13:21 - Dec 21 with 2428 views | pencoedjack |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 13:21 - Dec 20 by CountyJim |
I didn't say that but it makes sense that the areas with the biggest population gets more money |
I'm surprised somebody from Newport would think SE Wales gets the most investment.
Let be honest only Cardiff gets decent investment these days.
Anyway, the majority will keep voting for Labour. |  | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 13:34 - Dec 21 with 2422 views | Whiterockin |
I'm sure when Wales voted for devolution, it was stated that any assembly would tour around wales and not based in one place. In the end it went to Cardiff (not what was voted for) and so has all the money since. I stand to be corrected by Trampie.
On a side issue the vote was about 50. something against 49. something. And there was never a demand for a second vote unlike Brexit. |  | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 13:40 - Dec 21 with 2412 views | trampie |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 13:34 - Dec 21 by Whiterockin |
I'm sure when Wales voted for devolution, it was stated that any assembly would tour around wales and not based in one place. In the end it went to Cardiff (not what was voted for) and so has all the money since. I stand to be corrected by Trampie.
On a side issue the vote was about 50. something against 49. something. And there was never a demand for a second vote unlike Brexit. |
I don't recall it ever being stated by the English led authorities that the Assembly would be taken around Wales, I remember Plaid wanting to take it around Wales but unfortunately I cant remember the unionist parties proposing that. | |
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| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 11:39 - Dec 22 with 2288 views | controversial_jack |
It's the same in England regarding London.This new high speed rail link - which will cost us a fortunate, is going ahead under the pretense of owning up the midlands and the Northern cities to expansion. The reality is, it will bring more investment into London. | | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 14:28 - Dec 22 with 2254 views | Private_Partz |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 13:21 - Dec 20 by CountyJim |
I didn't say that but it makes sense that the areas with the biggest population gets more money |
I think we are talking per capita investment here Jim. It follows the most populated areas will get the most. The last time I looked. and it is very difficult to find, the spending per head in the SE was twice that of the rest of Wales. Very unfairly skewed in Favour of the SE.
So begins the vicious cycle of spending more on transport infrastructure in the SE which in turn attracts more investment.
imho there is a case for reversing the trend and spending more on the rest of Wales until the balance has been redressed. But that would never do. I doubt Drakeford will make any difference. |  |
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| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 20:09 - Dec 22 with 2202 views | valleyboy |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 12:11 - Dec 20 by CountyJim |
Just a stab in the dark here but SE Wales has the highest population compered to other regions |
Exactly
Of the 3 million population of Wales. Over 80% live in the south east
So what does anyone expect; for it to be different
Investment goes to where the biggest population live, work and play | | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 20:34 - Dec 22 with 2188 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 20:09 - Dec 22 by valleyboy |
Exactly
Of the 3 million population of Wales. Over 80% live in the south east
So what does anyone expect; for it to be different
Investment goes to where the biggest population live, work and play |
Nonsense.
About 54% live outside the south east.
Statistics are readily available. | | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 20:34 - Dec 22 with 2188 views | trampie |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 20:09 - Dec 22 by valleyboy |
Exactly
Of the 3 million population of Wales. Over 80% live in the south east
So what does anyone expect; for it to be different
Investment goes to where the biggest population live, work and play |
Less than half the population of Wales live there. | |
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| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 00:58 - Dec 23 with 2150 views | valleyboy |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 20:34 - Dec 22 by londonlisa2001 |
Nonsense.
About 54% live outside the south east.
Statistics are readily available. |
Just check the density population of districts that feed into the south or south east of wales compared to areas like Swansea and to West Wales
Statistics are ready available for you to see, or do you think the districts like Cardiff, Gwent, Valleys, Cynon Valley or even districts like Bridgend are more closely linked to Swansea or even further west of Swansea
If places like Swansea are so progressive then why is the place so run down
Go to Swansea on say a week day, then do the same in going to Cardiff
It’s like living in a different World between the two cities and then judge the difference
Who in their right mind would invest in a run down city
Business invest where the money is, especially in retail | | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 11:11 - Dec 23 with 2110 views | Whiterockin |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 00:58 - Dec 23 by valleyboy |
Just check the density population of districts that feed into the south or south east of wales compared to areas like Swansea and to West Wales
Statistics are ready available for you to see, or do you think the districts like Cardiff, Gwent, Valleys, Cynon Valley or even districts like Bridgend are more closely linked to Swansea or even further west of Swansea
If places like Swansea are so progressive then why is the place so run down
Go to Swansea on say a week day, then do the same in going to Cardiff
It’s like living in a different World between the two cities and then judge the difference
Who in their right mind would invest in a run down city
Business invest where the money is, especially in retail |
So Mid and North wales don't exist. These areas are crying out for investment. Masses of money are being spent on the Heads of the Valley, plus talk of a Newport bypass, but what about mid and north Wales (don't site the Newtown bypass this is chicken feed in comparison). The rail/road travel time between south and north Wales is inexcusable. | | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 11:43 - Dec 23 with 2082 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 00:58 - Dec 23 by valleyboy |
Just check the density population of districts that feed into the south or south east of wales compared to areas like Swansea and to West Wales
Statistics are ready available for you to see, or do you think the districts like Cardiff, Gwent, Valleys, Cynon Valley or even districts like Bridgend are more closely linked to Swansea or even further west of Swansea
If places like Swansea are so progressive then why is the place so run down
Go to Swansea on say a week day, then do the same in going to Cardiff
It’s like living in a different World between the two cities and then judge the difference
Who in their right mind would invest in a run down city
Business invest where the money is, especially in retail |
What are you on about? You said 80% of the population of Wales live in the South East. It’s less than 50%.
That includes Cardiff, Bridgend, Newport, Merthyr, Rhondda Cynon Taff, Vale of Glamorgan, Caerphilly, Blaenau Gwent, Torfaen.
Whether Swansea is progressive or not is a different question. | | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 12:01 - Dec 23 with 2070 views | valleyboy |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 11:43 - Dec 23 by londonlisa2001 |
What are you on about? You said 80% of the population of Wales live in the South East. It’s less than 50%.
That includes Cardiff, Bridgend, Newport, Merthyr, Rhondda Cynon Taff, Vale of Glamorgan, Caerphilly, Blaenau Gwent, Torfaen.
Whether Swansea is progressive or not is a different question. |
It’s not just the south/east of Wales that you must consider, but the areas that naturally feed into that area
You ask the people of the Rhondda, Cynon Valley, Merthyr Tydfil, Gwent Valleys, Vale of Glamorgan and even places like Bridgend, in where they go shopping or even to work and the big marjority wouldn’t say they would be going to places like Swansea or further west or even going up to mid Wales
Who in their right mind would want to go shopping in Swansea these days, compared to what there is in Cardiff | | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 12:04 - Dec 23 with 2067 views | Whiterockin |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 12:01 - Dec 23 by valleyboy |
It’s not just the south/east of Wales that you must consider, but the areas that naturally feed into that area
You ask the people of the Rhondda, Cynon Valley, Merthyr Tydfil, Gwent Valleys, Vale of Glamorgan and even places like Bridgend, in where they go shopping or even to work and the big marjority wouldn’t say they would be going to places like Swansea or further west or even going up to mid Wales
Who in their right mind would want to go shopping in Swansea these days, compared to what there is in Cardiff |
Who in their right mind would want to go shopping in Swansea these days, compared to what there is in Cardiff
All the more reason for a fair share of any investment. This is the point. | | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 12:11 - Dec 23 with 2059 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 12:01 - Dec 23 by valleyboy |
It’s not just the south/east of Wales that you must consider, but the areas that naturally feed into that area
You ask the people of the Rhondda, Cynon Valley, Merthyr Tydfil, Gwent Valleys, Vale of Glamorgan and even places like Bridgend, in where they go shopping or even to work and the big marjority wouldn’t say they would be going to places like Swansea or further west or even going up to mid Wales
Who in their right mind would want to go shopping in Swansea these days, compared to what there is in Cardiff |
And as I said, the populations of those areas are included in the 45% that live in the South East of Wales. I listed the areas I included in my post.
As for shopping, I live in London. I think Cardiff is nice city. On a par with places like Sheffield, or Leeds. Not as nice as places like Manchester or Bristol. I read on here that some Plaid bod thinks it could be on a par with Paris. That’s pretty funny to be honest.
Swansea is nicer. Not for the centre of the city and shopping, but Cardiff has nothing equivalent to Mumbles, or Gower, or Swansea Bay. Money is what is needed for Swansea. There’s no money in the world that can buy Cardiff the natural beauty of Swansea. | | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 12:39 - Dec 23 with 2051 views | valleyboy |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 12:11 - Dec 23 by londonlisa2001 |
And as I said, the populations of those areas are included in the 45% that live in the South East of Wales. I listed the areas I included in my post.
As for shopping, I live in London. I think Cardiff is nice city. On a par with places like Sheffield, or Leeds. Not as nice as places like Manchester or Bristol. I read on here that some Plaid bod thinks it could be on a par with Paris. That’s pretty funny to be honest.
Swansea is nicer. Not for the centre of the city and shopping, but Cardiff has nothing equivalent to Mumbles, or Gower, or Swansea Bay. Money is what is needed for Swansea. There’s no money in the world that can buy Cardiff the natural beauty of Swansea. |
Have you ever spoken to someone living down the Mumbles or the Gower and told them that they are Swansea people
A short shrift reply would soon be coming
The same argument that you are using can be said of Penarth and the Vale to Cardiff
As for you saying that Cardiff is not as nice as Manchester or Bristol, then why has Cardiff been rated the third best retail place in the whole of the U.K. then
You obviously haven’t been walking around Swansea, shopping for a long time
A absolute dreadful place to go these days
I could refer you to people that you know well, that were born and bread in the so called Swansea area, that would say the same in what I have just said | | | |
| Cardiff and the South East seem to be getting most of the investment on 16:13 - Dec 23 with 2014 views | jack_lord |
If the Welsh assembly was batting for Swansea then my guess is that we may be a little more progressive. | |
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