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The free market model has failed. 13:06 - Nov 9 with 1179 viewsladyjack


Capitalism has failed.
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The free market model has failed. on 13:38 - Nov 9 with 967 viewsA_Fans_Dad

No it hasn't.
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The free market model has failed. on 13:46 - Nov 9 with 958 viewsladyjack

Its failed for society as a whole, foodbanks and the gig economy are a reality.
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The free market model has failed. on 14:11 - Nov 9 with 931 viewsbluey_the_blue

Venezuela doing very well for food. If you like eating family pets, that is.

There are plenty for whom the gig economy is a good idea.
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The free market model has failed. on 14:42 - Nov 9 with 899 viewsladyjack


Anyone seen this film yet ?
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The free market model has failed. on 14:45 - Nov 9 with 890 viewsdickythorpe

The free market model has failed. on 14:42 - Nov 9 by ladyjack


Anyone seen this film yet ?


Looking forward to seeing it. Gritty and relevant.
I, Daniel Blake was brutally accurate.
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The free market model has failed. on 14:46 - Nov 9 with 882 viewsA_Fans_Dad

The free market model has failed. on 14:42 - Nov 9 by ladyjack


Anyone seen this film yet ?


It is immaterial to the argument.
No System is perfect but Capitalism is far better than the alternatives as has been shown by history.
Even China is using Capalistic Communism.
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The free market model has failed. on 14:51 - Nov 9 with 871 viewsexiledclaseboy

It’s designed to fail for most of us.

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The free market model has failed. on 14:52 - Nov 9 with 865 viewsbluey_the_blue

The free market model has failed. on 14:45 - Nov 9 by dickythorpe

Looking forward to seeing it. Gritty and relevant.
I, Daniel Blake was brutally accurate.


Made Loach a fair whack too.
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The free market model has failed. on 15:07 - Nov 9 with 854 viewsDJack

The free market model has failed. on 14:46 - Nov 9 by A_Fans_Dad

It is immaterial to the argument.
No System is perfect but Capitalism is far better than the alternatives as has been shown by history.
Even China is using Capalistic Communism.


The thread title is "The free market model has failed"

It is failing/ has failed. A well regulated capitalism would be better for nations. China is utilising a mixed system and laws/regulation which are often adjusted to react to things it does not like.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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The free market model has failed. on 15:42 - Nov 9 with 829 viewsCatullus

The free market model has failed. on 14:51 - Nov 9 by exiledclaseboy

It’s designed to fail for most of us.


Yep, it works for the rich and powerful but there never was any trickle down, it was always a myth. The lie was pushed to keep the workers working for the bright bfuture that most would/will never see.
Of course, the other choices haven't worked either. Doe anyone have any new ideas?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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The free market model has failed. on 15:53 - Nov 9 with 819 viewsdickythorpe

The free market model has failed. on 14:52 - Nov 9 by bluey_the_blue

Made Loach a fair whack too.


Made a lot of people think though Bluey.
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The free market model has failed. on 17:27 - Nov 9 with 785 viewsPacemaker



Your system has not done so well either Trampie

Life is an adventure or nothing at all.

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The free market model has failed. on 17:36 - Nov 9 with 755 viewsbluey_the_blue

The free market model has failed. on 15:53 - Nov 9 by dickythorpe

Made a lot of people think though Bluey.


I'm sure it did and I'm well aware the system is flawed.

Loach has Loach in mind and nobody else though. Blasts Israel yet his films shown there, making him money.

Any film Loach does is always going to be slanted. Not like he's going to show, for example, someone like residents from Benefit Street making no effort to work, advised on how to milk the system.
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The free market model has failed. on 17:50 - Nov 9 with 743 viewsexiledclaseboy

The free market model has failed. on 17:36 - Nov 9 by bluey_the_blue

I'm sure it did and I'm well aware the system is flawed.

Loach has Loach in mind and nobody else though. Blasts Israel yet his films shown there, making him money.

Any film Loach does is always going to be slanted. Not like he's going to show, for example, someone like residents from Benefit Street making no effort to work, advised on how to milk the system.


Filmmaker makes film, makes money.

Hold the front page.

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The free market model has failed. on 17:54 - Nov 9 with 730 viewsmonmouth

The fact is that as a 'rich' country we have so many homeless, so many food banks, and so many uneducated. and that says to me that 'capitalism' or whatever you want to call it has failed and now run its course.

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The free market model has failed. on 17:55 - Nov 9 with 722 viewsbluey_the_blue

The free market model has failed. on 17:50 - Nov 9 by exiledclaseboy

Filmmaker makes film, makes money.

Hold the front page.


No problem with that.

Problem is his continual anti-Israel comments, some of which have been antisemitic yet is happy to make money from films shown in Israel, then blames distributors when that is found out.

It's the double standards tbh. Like Stephen Hawking wanting a boycott of Israeli stuff whilst conveniently forgetting the origin of computer system, software involved in his chair.
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The free market model has failed. on 17:58 - Nov 9 with 719 viewsexiledclaseboy

The free market model has failed. on 17:55 - Nov 9 by bluey_the_blue

No problem with that.

Problem is his continual anti-Israel comments, some of which have been antisemitic yet is happy to make money from films shown in Israel, then blames distributors when that is found out.

It's the double standards tbh. Like Stephen Hawking wanting a boycott of Israeli stuff whilst conveniently forgetting the origin of computer system, software involved in his chair.


Oh he’s antisemitic too is he? And the now dead Hawking. Get whoever your equivalent of Senator McCarthy is to add them to the list.
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The free market model has failed. on 18:00 - Nov 9 with 706 viewsmonmouth

The free market model has failed. on 14:51 - Nov 9 by exiledclaseboy

It’s designed to fail for most of us.


Yes, it has succeeded spectacularly for people like me, but it doesn't create a country I want to live in.

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The free market model has failed. on 18:01 - Nov 9 with 707 viewsexiledclaseboy

The free market model has failed. on 18:00 - Nov 9 by monmouth

Yes, it has succeeded spectacularly for people like me, but it doesn't create a country I want to live in.


Stop showing off. It’s very gauche.

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The free market model has failed. on 18:02 - Nov 9 with 699 viewsA_Fans_Dad

The free market model has failed. on 17:54 - Nov 9 by monmouth

The fact is that as a 'rich' country we have so many homeless, so many food banks, and so many uneducated. and that says to me that 'capitalism' or whatever you want to call it has failed and now run its course.


But what have those things got to do with "Capitalism"?
Aren't they all to do with absolutely crap "Governing"?
Like wasting our hard earned taxes on Foreign Aid, HS2, MPs expenses & bailing out Banks.
I am sure that you could name a lot of "waste" by the last few Governments to add to the list.
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The free market model has failed. on 18:02 - Nov 9 with 698 viewsbluey_the_blue

The free market model has failed. on 17:58 - Nov 9 by exiledclaseboy

Oh he’s antisemitic too is he? And the now dead Hawking. Get whoever your equivalent of Senator McCarthy is to add them to the list.
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Well, when even Labour drop him from doing election broadcasts as they did last year, Loach is toxic...

EDIT: Never thought Hawking was antisemitic personally. I just think his "boycott Israel" stance wasn't particularly principled, more "boycott Israel, oh but I'm a special case tbh so you lot just do it for me".

Then again I did giggle at the BDS leader years ago giving a speech, reading from an HP laptop.
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The free market model has failed. on 18:04 - Nov 9 with 694 viewsmonmouth

The free market model has failed. on 18:01 - Nov 9 by exiledclaseboy

Stop showing off. It’s very gauche.


Indeed. Because...wine.

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The free market model has failed. on 18:05 - Nov 9 with 689 viewsbluey_the_blue

The free market model has failed. on 18:02 - Nov 9 by A_Fans_Dad

But what have those things got to do with "Capitalism"?
Aren't they all to do with absolutely crap "Governing"?
Like wasting our hard earned taxes on Foreign Aid, HS2, MPs expenses & bailing out Banks.
I am sure that you could name a lot of "waste" by the last few Governments to add to the list.


Every system has waste, every system has failures.

There's no perfect system.

Capitalism is a lot better than other alternatives as history has shown...
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The free market model has failed. on 00:15 - Nov 10 with 612 viewscontroversial_jack

Capitalism failed in 2008 when banks and financial institutes had to be bailed out by loans and the taxpayer
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The free market model has failed. on 02:02 - Nov 10 with 570 viewsDJack

The free market model has failed. on 18:05 - Nov 9 by bluey_the_blue

Every system has waste, every system has failures.

There's no perfect system.

Capitalism is a lot better than other alternatives as history has shown...


And a well regulated capitalism in which companies pay appropriate taxes and dont shit on people and nations would be better again.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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