| Wimbledon 19:23 - Jun 29 with 2300 views | onehunglow |
Why do we so obviously lack bottle.
Is it because of class |  |
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| Wimbledon on 22:29 - Jun 29 with 1308 views | Kilkennyjack |
Elitist sport.
Only one Andy Murray. |  |
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| Wimbledon on 07:28 - Jun 30 with 1263 views | jack247 |
| Wimbledon on 22:29 - Jun 29 by Kilkennyjack |
Elitist sport.
Only one Andy Murray. |
He hardly grew up working class mind | | | |
| Wimbledon on 08:00 - Jun 30 with 1269 views | RonaldStump |
| Wimbledon on 22:29 - Jun 29 by Kilkennyjack |
Elitist sport.
Only one Andy Murray. |
Where people are allowed to gather restriction free
Whilst people returning home to see loved ones with days to live are not allowed out of quarantine.
All this whilst the politicians, uefa officials and hangers on, rich and famous can travel again without any restrictions | |
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| Wimbledon on 08:29 - Jun 30 with 1262 views | onehunglow |
So only the working class have bottle | |
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| Wimbledon on 08:34 - Jun 30 with 1251 views | jack247 |
| Wimbledon on 08:29 - Jun 30 by onehunglow |
So only the working class have bottle |
Andy Murray does. Hal Robson Kanu. There are probably loads of examples | | | |
| Wimbledon on 08:44 - Jun 30 with 1256 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Wimbledon on 07:28 - Jun 30 by jack247 |
He hardly grew up working class mind |
Wrong he is exactly that working class born in Glasgow brought up in Dunblane. His grandfather was a professional footballer in the era when all footballers were working class. He was coached in his early days by his mother if he was middle class he would have had a paid coach. He has got to the top through sheer hard work. He is not a product on the Wimbledon Middle class elite. He has probably got to the top because of his hard work. | |
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| Wimbledon on 08:46 - Jun 30 with 1245 views | jack247 |
| Wimbledon on 08:44 - Jun 30 by felixstowe_jack |
Wrong he is exactly that working class born in Glasgow brought up in Dunblane. His grandfather was a professional footballer in the era when all footballers were working class. He was coached in his early days by his mother if he was middle class he would have had a paid coach. He has got to the top through sheer hard work. He is not a product on the Wimbledon Middle class elite. He has probably got to the top because of his hard work. |
Being born in Glasgow doesn’t make people working class. He spent a good chunk of his childhood living in Spain and the USA on tennis academies | | | |
| Wimbledon on 08:47 - Jun 30 with 1253 views | onehunglow |
| Wimbledon on 08:44 - Jun 30 by felixstowe_jack |
Wrong he is exactly that working class born in Glasgow brought up in Dunblane. His grandfather was a professional footballer in the era when all footballers were working class. He was coached in his early days by his mother if he was middle class he would have had a paid coach. He has got to the top through sheer hard work. He is not a product on the Wimbledon Middle class elite. He has probably got to the top because of his hard work. |
And a quite brilliant expose of another hateful poster.
Done in perfect ignorance as Murray has not exactly had a bed of roses life a a kid.
Why are we seeing such hate towards
England and now
anyone who is not "working class".
Another thread ruined by inverted snobbery.
Look at the state we're in.
Felix and I ,btw,are not up each other's ringpieces either nor are we chums or ever likely to be. We are however to exchange without filthy ripostes
You need to take a step back 247 . There might be hope for you yet.
I wont be replying to you anymore past this | |
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| Wimbledon on 08:50 - Jun 30 with 1240 views | jack247 |
| Wimbledon on 08:47 - Jun 30 by onehunglow |
And a quite brilliant expose of another hateful poster.
Done in perfect ignorance as Murray has not exactly had a bed of roses life a a kid.
Why are we seeing such hate towards
England and now
anyone who is not "working class".
Another thread ruined by inverted snobbery.
Look at the state we're in.
Felix and I ,btw,are not up each other's ringpieces either nor are we chums or ever likely to be. We are however to exchange without filthy ripostes
You need to take a step back 247 . There might be hope for you yet.
I wont be replying to you anymore past this |
Far more bile spills from your keyboard that mine OHL. I just question your hypocrisy
Again, Scottish kids with nothing don’t spend summers on tennis academies in Florida | | | |
| Wimbledon on 09:27 - Jun 30 with 1241 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Wimbledon on 08:46 - Jun 30 by jack247 |
Being born in Glasgow doesn’t make people working class. He spent a good chunk of his childhood living in Spain and the USA on tennis academies |
Murray made it to the top because he was outside the elite Wimbledon bubble that only sees rich kids progress in tennis. He succeeded because his talent and determination earned him a place in a tennis academy in Spain . | |
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| Wimbledon on 09:30 - Jun 30 with 1239 views | onehunglow |
| Wimbledon on 09:27 - Jun 30 by felixstowe_jack |
Murray made it to the top because he was outside the elite Wimbledon bubble that only sees rich kids progress in tennis. He succeeded because his talent and determination earned him a place in a tennis academy in Spain . |
Elitist.
Another one Felix
Plenty of free tennis courts here.Tennis clubs too.
The facilities are there. | |
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| Wimbledon on 09:35 - Jun 30 with 1236 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Wimbledon on 09:30 - Jun 30 by onehunglow |
Elitist.
Another one Felix
Plenty of free tennis courts here.Tennis clubs too.
The facilities are there. |
Trouble is local tennis courts are busy for a month or so during Wimbledon and just after then are empty for the rest of the year. It needs determination and talent to be a champion not a silver spoon. | |
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| Wimbledon on 09:42 - Jun 30 with 1228 views | jack247 |
| Wimbledon on 09:27 - Jun 30 by felixstowe_jack |
Murray made it to the top because he was outside the elite Wimbledon bubble that only sees rich kids progress in tennis. He succeeded because his talent and determination earned him a place in a tennis academy in Spain . |
His dad had his own opticians business and sent him to private school when he was 10. His training costs when he moved abroad were £30k - £35k per year, which his mum as an elite tennis coach and his dad with his business covered. This was maybe 20 years ago.
Not pretending it wasn’t a struggle for them, but how many working class families could have paid that in the late 90s/early 2000s? I’m not sure if that is just him or includes his brothers training.
Yes, there’s obviously sacrifice, grit, talent and hard work involved. They don’t just let any family who can afford it on these camps. | | | |
| Wimbledon on 09:42 - Jun 30 with 1234 views | onehunglow |
| Wimbledon on 09:35 - Jun 30 by felixstowe_jack |
Trouble is local tennis courts are busy for a month or so during Wimbledon and just after then are empty for the rest of the year. It needs determination and talent to be a champion not a silver spoon. |
Plenty in this neck of the woods.Yesterday afternoon,2 free.
It is about desire
Kids from "working class"/deprived/poor backgrounds see football a a way out-not tennis. Maybe as that is why Tennis is harder to make a good living at and a solitary game like golf and requires mental resilience to make it. Djokavic a perfect example. In fact plenty of examples out there.
It is a culture issue.
The Brits are full of it
Rugby Union in England -middle class
Rugby League in England-working class
Rugby Union in Wales -working class
Golf -middle class yet plenty of working class queue up on the first green.
Class. You just gotta beat it.Nothing kills the human spirit more | |
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| Wimbledon on 09:50 - Jun 30 with 1223 views | jack247 |
| Wimbledon on 09:42 - Jun 30 by onehunglow |
Plenty in this neck of the woods.Yesterday afternoon,2 free.
It is about desire
Kids from "working class"/deprived/poor backgrounds see football a a way out-not tennis. Maybe as that is why Tennis is harder to make a good living at and a solitary game like golf and requires mental resilience to make it. Djokavic a perfect example. In fact plenty of examples out there.
It is a culture issue.
The Brits are full of it
Rugby Union in England -middle class
Rugby League in England-working class
Rugby Union in Wales -working class
Golf -middle class yet plenty of working class queue up on the first green.
Class. You just gotta beat it.Nothing kills the human spirit more |
I know you’re not going to reply to this, but the financial barriers rule tennis out for most people, in the UK anyway.
Having a knock down the local tennis centre only gets you so far. It’s not a nice situation, but it’s reality.
Plus even if that wasn’t the case, there are far more elite footballers than tennis players for obvious reasons. | | | |
| Wimbledon on 13:57 - Jun 30 with 1188 views | Catullus |
| Wimbledon on 09:42 - Jun 30 by jack247 |
His dad had his own opticians business and sent him to private school when he was 10. His training costs when he moved abroad were £30k - £35k per year, which his mum as an elite tennis coach and his dad with his business covered. This was maybe 20 years ago.
Not pretending it wasn’t a struggle for them, but how many working class families could have paid that in the late 90s/early 2000s? I’m not sure if that is just him or includes his brothers training.
Yes, there’s obviously sacrifice, grit, talent and hard work involved. They don’t just let any family who can afford it on these camps. |
Do talented sports people (in the USA) actually get scholarships sponosred by sports teams, or is that just a tv lie?
https://www.firstpointusa.com/
Sems like in the USA at least, if you're really good but poor you can still make it, in any sport. I don't doubt the UK is still ruled by a class structure, you need money or the right family name.
Who keeps bringing up class on here? And why? Money is what really matters. Ask Alan Sugar! | |
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| Wimbledon on 14:55 - Jun 30 with 1174 views | onehunglow |
| Wimbledon on 13:57 - Jun 30 by Catullus |
Do talented sports people (in the USA) actually get scholarships sponosred by sports teams, or is that just a tv lie?
https://www.firstpointusa.com/
Sems like in the USA at least, if you're really good but poor you can still make it, in any sport. I don't doubt the UK is still ruled by a class structure, you need money or the right family name.
Who keeps bringing up class on here? And why? Money is what really matters. Ask Alan Sugar! |
Most people.
Let me count the ways
working class
posh
privileged
Tory scum#
vile filth
elitist.
Just a random election. | |
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| Wimbledon on 15:25 - Jun 30 with 1164 views | AndyCole |
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Tennis appears to be elitist because to be any good kids need proper coaching from a very young age. Technique is everything. Far more so than football.
The great unwashed would have to forego their fags n booze to pay for little Kyle to get proper coaching. With football they can just rock up, with their fags n booze and hurl abuse. | |
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Anti gang-bullying and poor modding thereof -
Will always make a stand against those who consistently choose to turn a blind eye |
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| Wimbledon on 17:28 - Jun 30 with 1146 views | onehunglow |
| Wimbledon on 15:25 - Jun 30 by AndyCole |
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Tennis appears to be elitist because to be any good kids need proper coaching from a very young age. Technique is everything. Far more so than football.
The great unwashed would have to forego their fags n booze to pay for little Kyle to get proper coaching. With football they can just rock up, with their fags n booze and hurl abuse. |
I used to play tennis at Dunvant Park .Chum of mine's dad was a tennis coach.What you say is right but coaching is available at local tennis centres,at least it here is on Wirral.We have a public indoor tennis centre adjoining a very underprivileged area .
Same with Golf.
Maybe it's out laziness and shallow attitude to hard work
Football seems the easiest way for kids from sink estates to get the cash,bling,girls and car.It's what they want. The idea of edication ,of study and application is anathema to many . | |
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| Wimbledon on 18:09 - Jun 30 with 1131 views | trampie |
I see Margaret Court is still out in front. |  |
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| Wimbledon on 18:12 - Jun 30 with 1128 views | jack247 |
| Wimbledon on 17:28 - Jun 30 by onehunglow |
I used to play tennis at Dunvant Park .Chum of mine's dad was a tennis coach.What you say is right but coaching is available at local tennis centres,at least it here is on Wirral.We have a public indoor tennis centre adjoining a very underprivileged area .
Same with Golf.
Maybe it's out laziness and shallow attitude to hard work
Football seems the easiest way for kids from sink estates to get the cash,bling,girls and car.It's what they want. The idea of edication ,of study and application is anathema to many . |
You can have coaching in Swansea tennis centre. My guess is it isn’t the same standard as £30k a year academies in Spain and the US or the coaching he would have had from his Scottish national tennis coach mum. | | | |
| Wimbledon on 19:50 - Jun 30 with 1099 views | onehunglow |
| Wimbledon on 18:09 - Jun 30 by trampie |
I see Margaret Court is still out in front. |
Preacher now.#
Turned to the Lord
The Greatest | |
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| Wimbledon on 19:57 - Jun 30 with 1092 views | trampie |
She must think that the English and others have turned away from God. | |
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| Wimbledon on 19:59 - Jun 30 with 1084 views | trampie |
Murray is back, venting, complaint, moaning, blaming his box, etc etc. | |
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| Wimbledon on 20:02 - Jun 30 with 1083 views | onehunglow |
| Wimbledon on 19:57 - Jun 30 by trampie |
She must think that the English and others have turned away from God. |
My old fella always said Wales woes was because they turned their back on the Cross.
When I used to go back ,the Church/Chapel influence was clearly waning and about time too.
They even closed the Welsh chapel in Birkenhead. | |
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