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What's happening to our NHS is awful 20:43 - Nov 18 with 1451 viewsladyjack


What's happening to our NHS is terrible, we should be paying a lot more in taxes to save the NHS [those of us that are not on the breadline that is].
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 22:06 - Nov 18 with 1015 viewspembsjack

More taxes are the only way to save it, surely most would be happy to a small NHS only tax added to there wage slip. I'm very proud of our NHS, some amazing staff working there balls off without the investment around them, hopefully, the next government can sort it before its too late.
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 22:09 - Nov 18 with 1008 viewsbuilthjack

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 22:06 - Nov 18 by pembsjack

More taxes are the only way to save it, surely most would be happy to a small NHS only tax added to there wage slip. I'm very proud of our NHS, some amazing staff working there balls off without the investment around them, hopefully, the next government can sort it before its too late.


Tax those huge tax dodging companies. Shameful that they get away with paying fck all.
Pump that money into the NHS.
Charge the foreigners for their treatment if they can afford it.

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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 22:13 - Nov 18 with 1002 viewsLohengrin

There are some twenty million more people on these islands today than there were in 1948 when the NHS was inaugurated.

If you want to look somewhere that’s the place to start.

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 23:22 - Nov 18 with 952 viewsDippy

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 22:13 - Nov 18 by Lohengrin

There are some twenty million more people on these islands today than there were in 1948 when the NHS was inaugurated.

If you want to look somewhere that’s the place to start.


There's 8 million of them here legally, never mind the other 2 million the govt are trying to cover for..

An extra 10 million on this tiny island, I can hear the leftist voice saying there's room for all, when in reality.. you know the rest Loh.

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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 23:32 - Nov 18 with 936 viewsBest_loser

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 22:06 - Nov 18 by pembsjack

More taxes are the only way to save it, surely most would be happy to a small NHS only tax added to there wage slip. I'm very proud of our NHS, some amazing staff working there balls off without the investment around them, hopefully, the next government can sort it before its too late.


The Tories will sort italright, in a way the kray twins used to sort things, and talking of crime families, trump and co can't wait to get their hands on it, tiny hands
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 07:20 - Nov 19 with 850 viewscontroversial_jack

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 22:13 - Nov 18 by Lohengrin

There are some twenty million more people on these islands today than there were in 1948 when the NHS was inaugurated.

If you want to look somewhere that’s the place to start.


Wouldn't that mean 20 million more contributions towards it?
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 10:01 - Nov 19 with 781 viewssherpajacob

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 22:13 - Nov 18 by Lohengrin

There are some twenty million more people on these islands today than there were in 1948 when the NHS was inaugurated.

If you want to look somewhere that’s the place to start.


Tories are trying their best by reducing average life expectancies.

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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 10:21 - Nov 19 with 759 viewsladyjack

I'm prepared to play the game as regards paying a lot more in taxes to get the NHS up to a high standard and keep it going but those doctors and consultants that Nye Bevan had to “stuff their mouths with gold” need to realise we are all in it together.
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 10:40 - Nov 19 with 749 viewssg1912

Maybe the NHS could get the extra money It needs by not employing thousands of people in non roles such as ‘Arts Cooridinator’ and ‘Drama-therapist’?
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 10:49 - Nov 19 with 727 viewsJoe_bradshaw

It’s not just a case of raising taxes and throwing more money at it. It’s about where and how that money is spent. There are currently 1700 nursing vacancies in the Welsh NHS and agency nurses are costing many millions more than directly employed nurses. The rates of pay are very similar for the nurses but the agencies offer complete flexibility of shifts. There’s also an army of trained nurses out there who haven’t worked for a few years and return to practice courses are the way forward to get them back to work. They exist but should be funded in much greater numbers.

We are training more nurses than ever and Swansea University is the biggest and best course in Wales. Numbers funded by the Welsh Government have increased at Swansea in each of the last five years and the bursary still exists in Wales unlike England where the number of applicants has dropped 40% since it was abolished 2 or 3 years ago. Swansea is now at full capacity and can’t accommodate any more Nursing degree students. We start interviewing for next September’s cohort on Friday.

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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 11:14 - Nov 19 with 706 viewsWxmJax

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 10:49 - Nov 19 by Joe_bradshaw

It’s not just a case of raising taxes and throwing more money at it. It’s about where and how that money is spent. There are currently 1700 nursing vacancies in the Welsh NHS and agency nurses are costing many millions more than directly employed nurses. The rates of pay are very similar for the nurses but the agencies offer complete flexibility of shifts. There’s also an army of trained nurses out there who haven’t worked for a few years and return to practice courses are the way forward to get them back to work. They exist but should be funded in much greater numbers.

We are training more nurses than ever and Swansea University is the biggest and best course in Wales. Numbers funded by the Welsh Government have increased at Swansea in each of the last five years and the bursary still exists in Wales unlike England where the number of applicants has dropped 40% since it was abolished 2 or 3 years ago. Swansea is now at full capacity and can’t accommodate any more Nursing degree students. We start interviewing for next September’s cohort on Friday.


What I found strange was that when my daughter tried to get in to Swansea about 5 years ago all the others trying were in their late 20's or older. She said that she was by far the youngest.

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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 11:19 - Nov 19 with 701 viewsBest_loser

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 10:21 - Nov 19 by ladyjack

I'm prepared to play the game as regards paying a lot more in taxes to get the NHS up to a high standard and keep it going but those doctors and consultants that Nye Bevan had to “stuff their mouths with gold” need to realise we are all in it together.


Some consultants are on stupid money, some are worth it but a he'll of a lot of them are not, a lot are lazy and arrogant because there is nobody monitoring them, then some get sacked for malpractice and move abroad for even more money
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 11:21 - Nov 19 with 699 viewsJoe_bradshaw

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 11:14 - Nov 19 by WxmJax

What I found strange was that when my daughter tried to get in to Swansea about 5 years ago all the others trying were in their late 20's or older. She said that she was by far the youngest.


She must have attended an unusual interview day. Roughly half the applicants are straight from school with A levels. The other half are often people with experience in care or health work, many of whom are doing an access to nursing course instead of the 3 Bs at A level which school/college leavers require.

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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:04 - Nov 19 with 676 viewsBarrySwan

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 10:49 - Nov 19 by Joe_bradshaw

It’s not just a case of raising taxes and throwing more money at it. It’s about where and how that money is spent. There are currently 1700 nursing vacancies in the Welsh NHS and agency nurses are costing many millions more than directly employed nurses. The rates of pay are very similar for the nurses but the agencies offer complete flexibility of shifts. There’s also an army of trained nurses out there who haven’t worked for a few years and return to practice courses are the way forward to get them back to work. They exist but should be funded in much greater numbers.

We are training more nurses than ever and Swansea University is the biggest and best course in Wales. Numbers funded by the Welsh Government have increased at Swansea in each of the last five years and the bursary still exists in Wales unlike England where the number of applicants has dropped 40% since it was abolished 2 or 3 years ago. Swansea is now at full capacity and can’t accommodate any more Nursing degree students. We start interviewing for next September’s cohort on Friday.


Surely an excellent reason to get rid of the plethora of media study, ever expanding number of ology courses etc etc and increase the nurse training department?

Or would that be too simple a concept for the overpaid fools running universities to contemplate.
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:10 - Nov 19 with 660 viewsbluey_the_blue

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 07:20 - Nov 19 by controversial_jack

Wouldn't that mean 20 million more contributions towards it?


Money isn't the problem. NHS was never designed to scale.
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:14 - Nov 19 with 658 viewscostalotta

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 22:13 - Nov 18 by Lohengrin

There are some twenty million more people on these islands today than there were in 1948 when the NHS was inaugurated.

If you want to look somewhere that’s the place to start.


And there’s much more wealth in the country too! Open you eyes Loh, wake up and embrace the 21st century. Look forward not back and be excited about what’s possible, change, becuase the world is changing, massively changing.

Tories and right wing completely paranoid about the future so they create enemies for you to fear. Divide and conquer is all they have. Don’t be frightened old man.
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:17 - Nov 19 with 651 viewscostalotta

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:10 - Nov 19 by bluey_the_blue

Money isn't the problem. NHS was never designed to scale.


Judging by your posts it appears neither were you!
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:20 - Nov 19 with 646 viewsbluey_the_blue

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:14 - Nov 19 by costalotta

And there’s much more wealth in the country too! Open you eyes Loh, wake up and embrace the 21st century. Look forward not back and be excited about what’s possible, change, becuase the world is changing, massively changing.

Tories and right wing completely paranoid about the future so they create enemies for you to fear. Divide and conquer is all they have. Don’t be frightened old man.


Again, it's not purely money that's the issue, that's an oversimplification.

From a computing analogy, you've built a website that works great with 200 users at any given time. 2000 it starts to creak, 20000 it's slowing dramatically and 200000 forget it.

You can maybe add more servers, increase memory in the servers but all you are then doing is pushing back the point at which the problems come back.

The architecture of that website is the problem which needs resolving, not the amount of resources you throw at it.

Extra money into NHS is like putting a sticking plaster on a broken leg if you don't address the fundamentals.
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:20 - Nov 19 with 647 viewscostalotta

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:04 - Nov 19 by BarrySwan

Surely an excellent reason to get rid of the plethora of media study, ever expanding number of ology courses etc etc and increase the nurse training department?

Or would that be too simple a concept for the overpaid fools running universities to contemplate.
[Post edited 19 Nov 2019 12:05]


Not the answer.

But nursing bursaries / pay whilst training is. Need to attract top talent into the game, then keep them in it with better pay and conditions.
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:26 - Nov 19 with 630 viewsJoe_bradshaw

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:04 - Nov 19 by BarrySwan

Surely an excellent reason to get rid of the plethora of media study, ever expanding number of ology courses etc etc and increase the nurse training department?

Or would that be too simple a concept for the overpaid fools running universities to contemplate.
[Post edited 19 Nov 2019 12:05]


Places are set by the Welsh Government, not the university. The WG gives each university the number that it is prepared to fund for each academic year. Swansea is at capacity now and could, in theory, find more space by reducing other departments. The university is mindful of the fact that the WG could cut numbers at any moment leaving it with unused capacity though. Ludicrously, Interviews are about to start for the next academic year and around 1500 people will be interviewed out of an expected 3500 applicants for an expected 400 or so places. I say expected places because the WG will not tell the universities what numbers they will be funding next year until January at the earliest.

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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:32 - Nov 19 with 615 viewscostalotta

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:20 - Nov 19 by bluey_the_blue

Again, it's not purely money that's the issue, that's an oversimplification.

From a computing analogy, you've built a website that works great with 200 users at any given time. 2000 it starts to creak, 20000 it's slowing dramatically and 200000 forget it.

You can maybe add more servers, increase memory in the servers but all you are then doing is pushing back the point at which the problems come back.

The architecture of that website is the problem which needs resolving, not the amount of resources you throw at it.

Extra money into NHS is like putting a sticking plaster on a broken leg if you don't address the fundamentals.


Can only agree with that slightly. Money is wasted in the NHS for r sure. Too much political interference is partly responsible for that (targets etc). Yes money needs to be spent better, but it needs money to spend on training UK nurses as they used to. Then we might attract top talent and and retain nurses. That will take money.

We need to pay and train nurses.
We need to build more hospitals.
We need to educate the population about health, nutrition, activity etc.
We need LESS managers and clip board carriers within NHS.
We need a social care services so that beds are not kept by the old and infirm. That should not be NHS it should be social care. Also, on this point...Families need to take some responsibility too. (My wife is a nurse and the stories...beds kept whilst a decorator is at the home of the patient).

Bottom line, NHS has been totally ruined by tories. It’s what they do.
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:36 - Nov 19 with 612 viewsbluey_the_blue

None of those things you list matter unless the underlying infrastructure is in place.

It isn't.
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:36 - Nov 19 with 612 viewscostalotta

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 10:49 - Nov 19 by Joe_bradshaw

It’s not just a case of raising taxes and throwing more money at it. It’s about where and how that money is spent. There are currently 1700 nursing vacancies in the Welsh NHS and agency nurses are costing many millions more than directly employed nurses. The rates of pay are very similar for the nurses but the agencies offer complete flexibility of shifts. There’s also an army of trained nurses out there who haven’t worked for a few years and return to practice courses are the way forward to get them back to work. They exist but should be funded in much greater numbers.

We are training more nurses than ever and Swansea University is the biggest and best course in Wales. Numbers funded by the Welsh Government have increased at Swansea in each of the last five years and the bursary still exists in Wales unlike England where the number of applicants has dropped 40% since it was abolished 2 or 3 years ago. Swansea is now at full capacity and can’t accommodate any more Nursing degree students. We start interviewing for next September’s cohort on Friday.


“The rates of pay are very similar for the nurses but the agencies offer complete flexibility of shifts.”

This is true. But what you don’t say is important her in relation to money. The agency nurses are paid more than nursing staff. Then, there’s the agency cut.

Why not just pay the nurses more?
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:38 - Nov 19 with 609 viewscostalotta

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:36 - Nov 19 by bluey_the_blue

None of those things you list matter unless the underlying infrastructure is in place.

It isn't.


Does building hospitals count as infrastructure?

Lol.
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What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:41 - Nov 19 with 605 viewscostalotta

What's happening to our NHS is awful on 12:36 - Nov 19 by bluey_the_blue

None of those things you list matter unless the underlying infrastructure is in place.

It isn't.


What isn’t?
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