| Unpopular news on 13:56 - Dec 24 with 3211 views | Whiterockin |
I wonder how long it will take them. |  | |  |
| Unpopular news on 16:40 - Dec 24 with 2997 views | Pegojack |
"Threatens to leave the EU"
What a complete load of b*llucks! Only in the tiny mind of the Daily Mail editor, maybe. The ruling actually gives the government in waiting a great opportunity.
SInce the election in November, Pedro Sanchez and the PSOE (the socialist party) have been negotiating with other minority parties to garner enough support to be formally elected in parliament as the rightful government. Many of those parties are Catalan nationalists, who are understandably reluctant to support him whilst thirteen of their former leaders are in jail after their illegal referendum, including the bloke the ruling refers to.
Now Sanchez can let him out of prison to take up his European post in return for the nationalists' support for his investiture, and he can say to all his right wing critics, "sorry boys, I had no choice, I had to obey the European court ruling. Now feck off while I form the next government".
Anything else you want to know about Spanish politics, just let me know. |  | | |
| Unpopular news on 20:07 - Dec 24 with 2821 views | monmouth |
| Unpopular news on 16:40 - Dec 24 by Pegojack |
"Threatens to leave the EU"
What a complete load of b*llucks! Only in the tiny mind of the Daily Mail editor, maybe. The ruling actually gives the government in waiting a great opportunity.
SInce the election in November, Pedro Sanchez and the PSOE (the socialist party) have been negotiating with other minority parties to garner enough support to be formally elected in parliament as the rightful government. Many of those parties are Catalan nationalists, who are understandably reluctant to support him whilst thirteen of their former leaders are in jail after their illegal referendum, including the bloke the ruling refers to.
Now Sanchez can let him out of prison to take up his European post in return for the nationalists' support for his investiture, and he can say to all his right wing critics, "sorry boys, I had no choice, I had to obey the European court ruling. Now feck off while I form the next government".
Anything else you want to know about Spanish politics, just let me know. |
It's pathetic the way the Brexshitters are determined to rationalise their belief in lies and unicorns. Desperate. |  |
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| Unpopular news on 20:46 - Dec 24 with 2744 views | Pegojack |
| Unpopular news on 20:07 - Dec 24 by monmouth |
It's pathetic the way the Brexshitters are determined to rationalise their belief in lies and unicorns. Desperate. |
Wait till the excrement really hits the fan. "Get Brexit done".
We'll soon see who's been done. | | | |
| Unpopular news on 21:05 - Dec 24 with 2704 views | Catullus |
| Unpopular news on 16:40 - Dec 24 by Pegojack |
"Threatens to leave the EU"
What a complete load of b*llucks! Only in the tiny mind of the Daily Mail editor, maybe. The ruling actually gives the government in waiting a great opportunity.
SInce the election in November, Pedro Sanchez and the PSOE (the socialist party) have been negotiating with other minority parties to garner enough support to be formally elected in parliament as the rightful government. Many of those parties are Catalan nationalists, who are understandably reluctant to support him whilst thirteen of their former leaders are in jail after their illegal referendum, including the bloke the ruling refers to.
Now Sanchez can let him out of prison to take up his European post in return for the nationalists' support for his investiture, and he can say to all his right wing critics, "sorry boys, I had no choice, I had to obey the European court ruling. Now feck off while I form the next government".
Anything else you want to know about Spanish politics, just let me know. |
What has the Daily Mail got to do with it? Euroweeklynews.com is Spanish media. The story went that Madrid are furious that the ECJ have said the Catalan fella should have immunity because he's an elected MEP.
Maybe a better approach would be to tell me what the political leanings of the media source are? Is it the daily mail of Spain? |  |
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| Unpopular news on 22:20 - Dec 24 with 2592 views | dickythorpe |
Once we leave others will follow. |  | | |
| Unpopular news on 22:36 - Dec 24 with 2570 views | Dr_Winston |
| Unpopular news on 22:20 - Dec 24 by dickythorpe |
Once we leave others will follow. |
If we leave and make a success of it. It's why certain individuals/groups are desperate for the EU to be as punitive as possible in any subsequent deal.
A UK successful outside the EU is their worst nightmare, as other populaces will wonder why the f*ck they've ceded so much of themselves to a political construction for benefits just as available within a mere trade bloc and start agitating to get out of there. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Unpopular news on 23:24 - Dec 24 with 2493 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Unpopular news on 22:36 - Dec 24 by Dr_Winston |
If we leave and make a success of it. It's why certain individuals/groups are desperate for the EU to be as punitive as possible in any subsequent deal.
A UK successful outside the EU is their worst nightmare, as other populaces will wonder why the f*ck they've ceded so much of themselves to a political construction for benefits just as available within a mere trade bloc and start agitating to get out of there. |
Nope.
Brexit will be a disaster.
UK will want to rejoin.
No other country will be so (pitifully) dull enough to do the same. |  |
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| Unpopular news on 23:58 - Dec 24 with 2438 views | majorraglan |
| Unpopular news on 22:36 - Dec 24 by Dr_Winston |
If we leave and make a success of it. It's why certain individuals/groups are desperate for the EU to be as punitive as possible in any subsequent deal.
A UK successful outside the EU is their worst nightmare, as other populaces will wonder why the f*ck they've ceded so much of themselves to a political construction for benefits just as available within a mere trade bloc and start agitating to get out of there. |
I think they will come to a Deal, but it won’t be as good as what we have now for the reasons you have outlined. We are currently paying in to the EU fr the privilege of being in the Single Market, there’s no way we will get the same terms when weren’t not paying in.
I am not saying that things like roaming charges will be introduced, but that’s the kind of thing that will annoy people along with big rises in travel insurance premiums. | | | |
| Unpopular news on 00:04 - Dec 25 with 2427 views | ItchySphincter |
I can understand people voting out because they are racist or they don’t like foreigners, or if they oppose a European super state and army, etc, but anyone who voted out because they think we’ll be better off is a f*cking moron. |  |
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| Unpopular news on 08:26 - Dec 25 with 2283 views | NotLoyal |
I go to Spain maybe 7 times a year on average, reading the newspapers and news media ( with help) there regards Spains views on the UK, Gibraltar, brexit, tourism, etc... Is complete different to the dross reported by what is, clearly becoming state controlled media in the UK.
Merry Xmas |  |
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| Unpopular news on 10:30 - Dec 25 with 2197 views | monmouth |
| Unpopular news on 23:58 - Dec 24 by majorraglan |
I think they will come to a Deal, but it won’t be as good as what we have now for the reasons you have outlined. We are currently paying in to the EU fr the privilege of being in the Single Market, there’s no way we will get the same terms when weren’t not paying in.
I am not saying that things like roaming charges will be introduced, but that’s the kind of thing that will annoy people along with big rises in travel insurance premiums. |
We will be paying more for less privileges than we have now and no voting power or vetos but that will be kept nice and quiet. Annoyances, like those you mention, and queueing at airports, visas and the rest will be a reality and have joe thicko on their package holidays squealing like pigs, and probably blaming Europe for it.
I’m absolutely no fan of the ‘European project’ and would prefer the original concept of an EEC. With that, free movement of goods services and people is a logical extension, and just as essential as it is between countries of the uk. But anyway, the choice is pretty stark, based on what is available today. Of course we should retain what we already have.
Itchy is right, the only rational reason for wanting out is that people don’t understand the reality, believe the weapons grade bullshit and lies, or are bigots or racists. Take your pick. | |
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| Unpopular news on 12:01 - Dec 25 with 2148 views | BarrySwan |
| Unpopular news on 00:04 - Dec 25 by ItchySphincter |
I can understand people voting out because they are racist or they don’t like foreigners, or if they oppose a European super state and army, etc, but anyone who voted out because they think we’ll be better off is a f*cking moron. |
What about those who voted out because they believe in the basic principle of being able to vote out those who make the laws or policies that govern us if they want to?
You may not be that bothered about who governs you or at the ability to vote them out of office but fortunately others do. | | | |
| Unpopular news on 12:20 - Dec 25 with 2134 views | Highjack |
| Unpopular news on 12:01 - Dec 25 by BarrySwan |
What about those who voted out because they believe in the basic principle of being able to vote out those who make the laws or policies that govern us if they want to?
You may not be that bothered about who governs you or at the ability to vote them out of office but fortunately others do. |
That’ll go straight over their heads. |  |
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| Unpopular news on 12:25 - Dec 25 with 2126 views | Drizzy |
| Unpopular news on 12:01 - Dec 25 by BarrySwan |
What about those who voted out because they believe in the basic principle of being able to vote out those who make the laws or policies that govern us if they want to?
You may not be that bothered about who governs you or at the ability to vote them out of office but fortunately others do. |
Aye, that'll be it.
I'm sure the frothing Brexiteers will set their sights on the House of Lords next. The Royals after that. |  |
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| Unpopular news on 12:51 - Dec 25 with 2105 views | sg1912 |
| Unpopular news on 12:25 - Dec 25 by Drizzy |
Aye, that'll be it.
I'm sure the frothing Brexiteers will set their sights on the House of Lords next. The Royals after that. |
I’ve heard the likes of Farage continually call for the abolition of the House of Lords...
What’s your point? | | | |
| Unpopular news on 12:54 - Dec 25 with 2097 views | Highjack |
| Unpopular news on 12:25 - Dec 25 by Drizzy |
Aye, that'll be it.
I'm sure the frothing Brexiteers will set their sights on the House of Lords next. The Royals after that. |
Yes please. | |
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| Unpopular news on 13:54 - Dec 25 with 2047 views | Drizzy |
| Unpopular news on 12:51 - Dec 25 by sg1912 |
I’ve heard the likes of Farage continually call for the abolition of the House of Lords...
What’s your point? |
That Brexit has f*ck all to do with:
"belief in the basic principle of being able to vote out those who make the laws or policies that govern us"
Seeing as the majority of Brexit proponents voted in a party that ritually abuses the peerage system which gives ordinary people less control over policymaking.
Not to mention the MEP elections give an individual vote much more power than our current system.
Spare the democratic righteousness, please. | |
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| Unpopular news on 14:18 - Dec 25 with 2015 views | Highjack |
| Unpopular news on 12:20 - Dec 25 by Highjack |
That’ll go straight over their heads. |
See I was right. | |
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| Unpopular news on 15:04 - Dec 25 with 1973 views | BarrySwan |
| Unpopular news on 13:54 - Dec 25 by Drizzy |
That Brexit has f*ck all to do with:
"belief in the basic principle of being able to vote out those who make the laws or policies that govern us"
Seeing as the majority of Brexit proponents voted in a party that ritually abuses the peerage system which gives ordinary people less control over policymaking.
Not to mention the MEP elections give an individual vote much more power than our current system.
Spare the democratic righteousness, please. |
Then the British public has the right to vote out and keep out any political party that advocates keeping the undemocratic house of lords as it is don't they?
As regards your comments about MEPs you clearly have no idea as to how the EU works including of course the EU parliament which raises no legislation but can only rubber stamp or plead without automatic right for alteration to those laws generated by the unelected of Brussels.
Anyway don't worry your little head about getting to grips with it all this late in the game, its almost over now for the EU acolytes and simperers, just leave it to the rest of us to guide you through the rest of your time as a British not EU citizen. | | | |
| Unpopular news on 15:51 - Dec 25 with 1951 views | Drizzy |
| Unpopular news on 15:04 - Dec 25 by BarrySwan |
Then the British public has the right to vote out and keep out any political party that advocates keeping the undemocratic house of lords as it is don't they?
As regards your comments about MEPs you clearly have no idea as to how the EU works including of course the EU parliament which raises no legislation but can only rubber stamp or plead without automatic right for alteration to those laws generated by the unelected of Brussels.
Anyway don't worry your little head about getting to grips with it all this late in the game, its almost over now for the EU acolytes and simperers, just leave it to the rest of us to guide you through the rest of your time as a British not EU citizen. |
The elected heads of state set the legislative agenda through voting on treaties.
The executive body, the Commission (which I assume you mean by "unelected of Brussels") proposes legislation based on these treaties. This commission is "elected" by the Council of member states and MEPs.
The Council can block/amend proposals through a voting process. The European parliament can't do this alone, the member states ultimately have the final say.
It's not a perfect form of democracy. It's confusing and bloated but it's a much better form of democracy than FPTP and the House of Lords.
You and many others will have to defend the Brexit argument for a generation. No doubt resorting to ever more childish insults and jingoistic nationalism. It's already a difficult position to defend, even more so when you don't have the faintest idea of what you're talking about.
Merry Christmas. | |
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| Unpopular news on 17:08 - Dec 25 with 1887 views | longlostjack |
| Unpopular news on 15:04 - Dec 25 by BarrySwan |
Then the British public has the right to vote out and keep out any political party that advocates keeping the undemocratic house of lords as it is don't they?
As regards your comments about MEPs you clearly have no idea as to how the EU works including of course the EU parliament which raises no legislation but can only rubber stamp or plead without automatic right for alteration to those laws generated by the unelected of Brussels.
Anyway don't worry your little head about getting to grips with it all this late in the game, its almost over now for the EU acolytes and simperers, just leave it to the rest of us to guide you through the rest of your time as a British not EU citizen. |
Thankfully I’ve now got British and German citizenship so I can still work and live anywhere without any hassle. Others aren’t as fortunate because of little Englander dickheads. |  |
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| Unpopular news on 20:08 - Dec 25 with 1749 views | Catullus |
| Unpopular news on 17:08 - Dec 25 by longlostjack |
Thankfully I’ve now got British and German citizenship so I can still work and live anywhere without any hassle. Others aren’t as fortunate because of little Englander dickheads. |
When Drizzy talked about childish insults, this wan't what was in mind, it's supposedly leavers who do this, apparently not.
Good news around Brexit though,
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/five-times-more-demand-for-uk-exports-from-ou
There is life, and trade, beyond the EU
I can't remember who said the UK media is now state controlled but here's something to think over. The ECJ did overrule a Spanish court and it was a Spanish media outlet who reported it but then took the story down, who controls the Spanish media?
The House of Lords now, tell us, is it just the tories who dole out peerages? No obviously. Even Jo Swinson was in the running according to Ed Davey. Reforming the HoL is absolutely essential and voters need to keep on the case but we all know Bojo will look to improve the tory presence. | |
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| Unpopular news on 20:31 - Dec 25 with 1730 views | waynekerr55 |
| Unpopular news on 12:01 - Dec 25 by BarrySwan |
What about those who voted out because they believe in the basic principle of being able to vote out those who make the laws or policies that govern us if they want to?
You may not be that bothered about who governs you or at the ability to vote them out of office but fortunately others do. |
I would say they voted with good intentions but were hoodwinked by a bunch of disaster capitalists.
Parliament is sovereign - we chose to adopt those laws. Freedom of movement doesn't mean we have to take all and sundry. If they aren't self sufficient in 3 months we could send them back. But guess what, letting people stay on the sausage roll is cheaper than having a fully resourced border control.
Not that it matters anymore. |  |
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| Unpopular news on 21:27 - Dec 25 with 1687 views | majorraglan |
| Unpopular news on 20:31 - Dec 25 by waynekerr55 |
I would say they voted with good intentions but were hoodwinked by a bunch of disaster capitalists.
Parliament is sovereign - we chose to adopt those laws. Freedom of movement doesn't mean we have to take all and sundry. If they aren't self sufficient in 3 months we could send them back. But guess what, letting people stay on the sausage roll is cheaper than having a fully resourced border control.
Not that it matters anymore. |
Is the correct answer, Border Control, Probation Service, law enforcement, NHS etc, f you want decent services and operational capability it has to be paid for. We can’t expect top quality services when we’re not resorting them properly. | | | |
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