| Pubs 10:29 - Oct 16 with 11540 views | controversial_jack |
To be shut in Wales for a month from the 26th |  | | |  |
| Pubs on 10:30 - Oct 16 with 2069 views | onehunglow |
Good. We could lose 50% of them.Less domestic abuse,less assault,less theft,less death ,less time wasted. | |
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| Pubs on 11:45 - Oct 16 with 2023 views | KGriz16 |
| Pubs on 10:30 - Oct 16 by onehunglow |
Good. We could lose 50% of them.Less domestic abuse,less assault,less theft,less death ,less time wasted. |
Won't that just happen at home instead? |  | | |
| Pubs on 12:07 - Oct 16 with 2010 views | Boundy |
| Pubs on 10:30 - Oct 16 by onehunglow |
Good. We could lose 50% of them.Less domestic abuse,less assault,less theft,less death ,less time wasted. |
That's rather a sweeping statement to make . Some pubs do a lot of positive good for their communities , you can still get rat arsed buying slabs of beer from the the likes of Tesco .Its just another kick in the teeth for genuine people trying to make their way in life . | |
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| Pubs on 12:14 - Oct 16 with 2004 views | Joe_bradshaw |
People whose livelihoods depend on pubs may take the view that it's not so good... |  |
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| Pubs on 13:23 - Oct 16 with 1965 views | controversial_jack |
It may be a reset for breweries and pubs. £4 a pint on Wind street, what a rip off | | | |
| Pubs on 13:29 - Oct 16 with 1956 views | onehunglow |
Friends.I stand by every word. We live in a country where closing pubs has caused more furore than the closing of countless Mills in the north of England.
We live in a land overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of pubs borne at a time when we were an industrial giant.
We do not need pubs next door to each other nor on every street corner.
Job losses . Our manufacturing industry was obliterated with less fuss .
Granted one doesn’t need to go to a pub to get lathered but it’s a good excuse. | |
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| Pubs on 13:33 - Oct 16 with 1940 views | Swanjaxs |
| Pubs on 10:30 - Oct 16 by onehunglow |
Good. We could lose 50% of them.Less domestic abuse,less assault,less theft,less death ,less time wasted. |
Aye, and thousands left without employment.
Sounds like a plan ðŸ‘🻠|  |
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| Pubs on 13:37 - Oct 16 with 1938 views | controversial_jack |
| Pubs on 13:33 - Oct 16 by Swanjaxs |
Aye, and thousands left without employment.
Sounds like a plan ðŸ‘🻠|
The virus doesn't respect the economy | | | |
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| Pubs on 13:39 - Oct 16 with 1932 views | onehunglow |
So then Jaxs...No masks,distancing,washing hands.? Corbyn says it’s a hoax too.
Meanwhile,people are dying while we worry about grotty pubs shutting .
Look at us | |
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| Pubs on 13:55 - Oct 16 with 1916 views | controversial_jack |
| Pubs on 13:39 - Oct 16 by onehunglow |
So then Jaxs...No masks,distancing,washing hands.? Corbyn says it’s a hoax too.
Meanwhile,people are dying while we worry about grotty pubs shutting .
Look at us |
I enjoy a pub as much as anyone, but they aren't priority.I would shut Universities and isolate the students for 2 weeks too | | | |
| Pubs on 14:19 - Oct 16 with 1888 views | onehunglow |
It does my head in Contro. I agree with you.
I would certain contain Gyms should remain open as they can be policed rigidly,as can swimming pools.
But pubs? Really. It does show our culture of alcohol is an issue. The hospitality industry for many is simply a city that encourages hen stag parties and Ive yet to see much joy for denizens there. Our cities are full of violent,pyssed up jerks who care not a jot for anyone else. The fact we 've seen so many pre lockdown drinkfests proves that.
My ma was a Sandfields girl with pubs on every corner . It was a relic from the past that by now should have been obliterated. | |
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| Pubs on 14:19 - Oct 16 with 1889 views | exhmrc1 |
| Pubs on 13:55 - Oct 16 by controversial_jack |
I enjoy a pub as much as anyone, but they aren't priority.I would shut Universities and isolate the students for 2 weeks too |
You are basically saying what I would have done 2 months ago. Closed the borders when cases were low ensuring no cases came in. Keeping pubs closed indoors so cases didnt spread. Had the whole UK taken this approach there would have been very few cases now. The schools and universities wouldnt have spread it as there would have been no cases to spread. There are others like Scotia who claimed we couldnt do this due the effect on business. Well we have now taken his route and look at the results. The situation is going to be far more difficult to control now and far more businesses will end up closing. There is good practice elsewhere in the world and it is time to learn from there. That was suggested by somebody in WHO yesterday. | | | |
| Pubs on 14:21 - Oct 16 with 1883 views | onehunglow |
I see you point taxman and think I agree with all that.
Letting go of the lockdown meant we dropped out guard.
It is down to our collective lack of self discipline. And as I keep saying,many refuse to mask up. They are not exempt either nor could they be checked if they were as nobody challenges them . | |
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| Pubs on 14:31 - Oct 16 with 1864 views | pikeypaul |
Great news in the battle to defeat the virus.
But we will always have idiots putting necking a pint before catching and spreading the virus.
Job losses yes, but other industries have had far greater cuts over the last decades, hopefully this will see a big culling of the pubs where only the best survive.
A lot of mobile businesses will be set up in the next few years eg hairdressers,butchers,fruit & Veg, fishmongers,etc ,etc the wise who are facing lay off should be looking at setting up whilst BOJO is giving his massive handouts.
Can’t believe people still go to retail high street premises to carry out business so easily done from the house.
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| Pubs on 14:33 - Oct 16 with 1873 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Pubs on 13:55 - Oct 16 by controversial_jack |
I enjoy a pub as much as anyone, but they aren't priority.I would shut Universities and isolate the students for 2 weeks too |
I disagree about students, they should be forced mingle as much as possible and as long as possible, so that all those susceptible to COVID catch it, get over it and then release them back into society with immunity. | | | |
| Pubs on 14:39 - Oct 16 with 1862 views | A_Fans_Dad |
One of the biggest problems with pubs & clubs is that they do not obey the current licencing laws.
It is illegal to carry on supplying alcohol to customers once they are getting drunk.
There is a considerable fine for doing so, which is never used.
So there is also a lot of responsibility for the amount of drunkeness on our streets down to the pub/club management, after all it is cash we are talking about.
Which the p!ssheads take advantage of to the hilt. | | | |
| Pubs on 14:40 - Oct 16 with 1857 views | controversial_jack |
| Pubs on 14:33 - Oct 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
I disagree about students, they should be forced mingle as much as possible and as long as possible, so that all those susceptible to COVID catch it, get over it and then release them back into society with immunity. |
There is no herd immunity with this. Not even Sweden has come close to herd immunity and they failed to protect their old and vulnerable.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic too. | | | |
| Pubs on 14:51 - Oct 16 with 1841 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Pubs on 14:40 - Oct 16 by controversial_jack |
There is no herd immunity with this. Not even Sweden has come close to herd immunity and they failed to protect their old and vulnerable.
I'm assuming you are being sarcastic too. |
Not being sarcastic at all, if they are held in quarantine until they are no longer infectious there is no reason that they cannot go back out in to society and mingle with whoever they want.
They would no longer be "spreaders".
Whereas just keeping then for 2 weeks means they could become infected in the second week and still be a spreader when let out. | | | |
| Pubs on 15:00 - Oct 16 with 1835 views | MrSwerve |
| Pubs on 14:33 - Oct 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
I disagree about students, they should be forced mingle as much as possible and as long as possible, so that all those susceptible to COVID catch it, get over it and then release them back into society with immunity. |
Aye lovely. I'm sure myself and other lectures of an older age will love being exposed to that.
Plenty of Unis are doing a blended approach to learning with a lot of face-to-face contact. |  |
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| Pubs on 15:07 - Oct 16 with 1828 views | controversial_jack |
| Pubs on 14:51 - Oct 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
Not being sarcastic at all, if they are held in quarantine until they are no longer infectious there is no reason that they cannot go back out in to society and mingle with whoever they want.
They would no longer be "spreaders".
Whereas just keeping then for 2 weeks means they could become infected in the second week and still be a spreader when let out. |
I think the infectious period is up to about 10 days only | | | |
| Pubs on 15:12 - Oct 16 with 1825 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Pubs on 15:07 - Oct 16 by controversial_jack |
I think the infectious period is up to about 10 days only |
I think that will depend on how badly you get it.
Are people in ICU still infectious after a month or two?
But it is when you actually get it that is important. [Post edited 16 Oct 2020 15:13]
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| Pubs on 15:14 - Oct 16 with 1820 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Pubs on 15:00 - Oct 16 by MrSwerve |
Aye lovely. I'm sure myself and other lectures of an older age will love being exposed to that.
Plenty of Unis are doing a blended approach to learning with a lot of face-to-face contact. |
I didn't say anything about teaching them, stick them in camps for all I care. | | | |
| Pubs on 15:17 - Oct 16 with 1817 views | controversial_jack |
| Pubs on 15:12 - Oct 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
I think that will depend on how badly you get it.
Are people in ICU still infectious after a month or two?
But it is when you actually get it that is important. [Post edited 16 Oct 2020 15:13]
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It usually takes a while to get to ICU, but not in every case. They wouldn't be infectious then, but medics still wear ppe as a precaution, but it's such a new virus that not a lot is certain about it | | | |
| Pubs on 15:24 - Oct 16 with 1809 views | MrSwerve |
| Pubs on 15:14 - Oct 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
I didn't say anything about teaching them, stick them in camps for all I care. |
Many, many students do not want to mix (despite what is shown in the news). | |
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| Pubs on 15:25 - Oct 16 with 1807 views | exhmrc1 |
| Pubs on 14:21 - Oct 16 by onehunglow |
I see you point taxman and think I agree with all that.
Letting go of the lockdown meant we dropped out guard.
It is down to our collective lack of self discipline. And as I keep saying,many refuse to mask up. They are not exempt either nor could they be checked if they were as nobody challenges them . |
I think the really big issue is some including Johnson thought you could open up and keep the virus down. It was never going to happen. Those thinking you could control the virus and have pubs and borders open have been living in cloud cuckoo land. Stopping the virus get here was always going to be key and the fact it came back was the responsibility of Johnson and his cronies. Once it came back with a vengeance we were on a slippery slope. It was a question of affecting one or two areas or the whole lot which is where we are now.
The problem with pubs is that they are very different and it is impossible to keep some open and others close. There are many restaurant type pubs who mainly serve meals and other like the old drinking establishments back in the 70s. How do you describe a food pub. Is selling crisps classed. What about rolls or chips or things like microwaved meals. How does any landlord know whether people who come together are from the same household. It is a total nightmare for anyone to police. | | | |
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