| Vaccine 16:16 - Nov 9 with 6546 views | britferry |
10 million to be given by end of year, it will prevent Covid in 90%... is the end in sight? |  |
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| Vaccine on 16:40 - Nov 9 with 1465 views | Scotia |
It's the beginning of the end. A long way to go but brilliant news. | | | |
| Vaccine on 17:21 - Nov 9 with 1437 views | controversial_jack |
| Vaccine on 16:40 - Nov 9 by Scotia |
It's the beginning of the end. A long way to go but brilliant news. |
If it works, it will be given to old ppl, care workers first, then NHS workers, however, basic things like Distance, masks and hygiene will be far more effective, but it's an additional tool | | | |
| Vaccine on 17:48 - Nov 9 with 1414 views | raynor94 |
| Vaccine on 17:21 - Nov 9 by controversial_jack |
If it works, it will be given to old ppl, care workers first, then NHS workers, however, basic things like Distance, masks and hygiene will be far more effective, but it's an additional tool |
Distance, Masks and Hygiene are far more effective than a vaccine?
Okay. |  |
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| Vaccine on 17:51 - Nov 9 with 1405 views | Neath_Jack |
The anti-vaxxers are going nuts on social media already  |  |
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| Vaccine on 17:53 - Nov 9 with 1407 views | Whiterockin |
| Vaccine on 17:21 - Nov 9 by controversial_jack |
If it works, it will be given to old ppl, care workers first, then NHS workers, however, basic things like Distance, masks and hygiene will be far more effective, but it's an additional tool |
I have heard that it will start with the over 80s and front line NHS first then rolled down from there. |  | | |
| Vaccine on 17:53 - Nov 9 with 1406 views | Professor |
| Vaccine on 17:48 - Nov 9 by raynor94 |
Distance, Masks and Hygiene are far more effective than a vaccine?
Okay. |
Both will be needed for a while yet | | | |
| Vaccine on 18:36 - Nov 9 with 1374 views | controversial_jack |
| Vaccine on 17:48 - Nov 9 by raynor94 |
Distance, Masks and Hygiene are far more effective than a vaccine?
Okay. |
Yes, history will show that, sanitation, clean water, diet etc has been far more effective than vaccines.
Mortality rates from all infectious diseases dropped significantly before vaccines were even introduced, so don't put all your eggs in the vaccine basket | | | |
| Vaccine on 18:42 - Nov 9 with 1369 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Vaccine on 18:36 - Nov 9 by controversial_jack |
Yes, history will show that, sanitation, clean water, diet etc has been far more effective than vaccines.
Mortality rates from all infectious diseases dropped significantly before vaccines were even introduced, so don't put all your eggs in the vaccine basket |
Cholera was caused by dirty water.
Smallpox was eradicated by vaccination.
Polo was eradicated by vaccination.
Measles mumps and rubella have been vastly reduced by vaccination. They only started to rise again after the discredited research by a doctor who was later struck off. Sadly 100,000s of parents did not vaccinate their children resulting in deaths and serious complications.
Why do people still perpetuate the myth that vaccinations do not work? | |
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| Vaccine on 18:48 - Nov 9 with 1351 views | Neath_Jack |
| Vaccine on 18:42 - Nov 9 by felixstowe_jack |
Cholera was caused by dirty water.
Smallpox was eradicated by vaccination.
Polo was eradicated by vaccination.
Measles mumps and rubella have been vastly reduced by vaccination. They only started to rise again after the discredited research by a doctor who was later struck off. Sadly 100,000s of parents did not vaccinate their children resulting in deaths and serious complications.
Why do people still perpetuate the myth that vaccinations do not work? |
Polio hasn't been eradicated. | |
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| Vaccine on 18:54 - Nov 9 with 1349 views | controversial_jack |
| Vaccine on 18:42 - Nov 9 by felixstowe_jack |
Cholera was caused by dirty water.
Smallpox was eradicated by vaccination.
Polo was eradicated by vaccination.
Measles mumps and rubella have been vastly reduced by vaccination. They only started to rise again after the discredited research by a doctor who was later struck off. Sadly 100,000s of parents did not vaccinate their children resulting in deaths and serious complications.
Why do people still perpetuate the myth that vaccinations do not work? |
Smallpox was not eradicated by vaccinations.It took 180 years to do that from it's introduction.
Measles in this country dropped dramatically before the vaccination was introduced. There have been no deaths from measles since well before Andrew Wakefield came out with his study.
i'm not saying vaccinations don't work to a point, but other measures are more effective, such as common sense and discipline | | | |
| Vaccine on 19:03 - Nov 9 with 1337 views | Andy1300 |
| Vaccine on 18:36 - Nov 9 by controversial_jack |
Yes, history will show that, sanitation, clean water, diet etc has been far more effective than vaccines.
Mortality rates from all infectious diseases dropped significantly before vaccines were even introduced, so don't put all your eggs in the vaccine basket |
It’s amazing, covid has cured the flu. |  |
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| Vaccine on 19:04 - Nov 9 with 1333 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Vaccine on 18:54 - Nov 9 by controversial_jack |
Smallpox was not eradicated by vaccinations.It took 180 years to do that from it's introduction.
Measles in this country dropped dramatically before the vaccination was introduced. There have been no deaths from measles since well before Andrew Wakefield came out with his study.
i'm not saying vaccinations don't work to a point, but other measures are more effective, such as common sense and discipline |
There is no cure for smallpox. It was eliminated by vaccinations. Yes it took many years but it had to be done on a country by country and mass vaccination did not really start until the 1960s. Before that vaccination in the UK was only administered when there was an outbreak in the UK as it was not endemic in he UK. Some people may remember the south wales outbreak in the 1960s and mass vaccination programme in south Wales.
The WHO started their worldwide smallpox eradicated programme in the 1960s and declared the would free of smallpox in 1980. It took only 20s years a remarkable success story. | |
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| Vaccine on 19:10 - Nov 9 with 1318 views | Neath_Jack |
| Vaccine on 19:03 - Nov 9 by Andy1300 |
It’s amazing, covid has cured the flu. |
No, people distancing and washing their hands has reduced the spread of the flu this year. | |
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| Vaccine on 19:13 - Nov 9 with 1322 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Vaccine on 18:48 - Nov 9 by Neath_Jack |
Polio hasn't been eradicated. |
It has in uk and there are currently cases only in two countries where wars have prevented a full vaccination programme. | |
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| Vaccine on 19:15 - Nov 9 with 1314 views | Neath_Jack |
| Vaccine on 19:13 - Nov 9 by felixstowe_jack |
It has in uk and there are currently cases only in two countries where wars have prevented a full vaccination programme. |
So it hasn't been eradicated then has it.
Unless you think eradicated means something else. | |
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| Vaccine on 19:19 - Nov 9 with 1308 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Vaccine on 18:54 - Nov 9 by controversial_jack |
Smallpox was not eradicated by vaccinations.It took 180 years to do that from it's introduction.
Measles in this country dropped dramatically before the vaccination was introduced. There have been no deaths from measles since well before Andrew Wakefield came out with his study.
i'm not saying vaccinations don't work to a point, but other measures are more effective, such as common sense and discipline |
Measles cases in uk
1967 cases 460497 deaths 99
Vacine introduced 1968
1987 cases 86,001 deaths 16
1988 MMR vacine introduced
cases are now currently about 2000 a year although there were 6193 cases in 2013.
Deaths recorded for measles now average 1 per year for the last 30 years. | |
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| Vaccine on 19:20 - Nov 9 with 1308 views | A_Fans_Dad |
From what I understand this Vaccine may have been ready in October. | | | |
| Vaccine on 19:20 - Nov 9 with 1308 views | controversial_jack |
| Vaccine on 19:04 - Nov 9 by felixstowe_jack |
There is no cure for smallpox. It was eliminated by vaccinations. Yes it took many years but it had to be done on a country by country and mass vaccination did not really start until the 1960s. Before that vaccination in the UK was only administered when there was an outbreak in the UK as it was not endemic in he UK. Some people may remember the south wales outbreak in the 1960s and mass vaccination programme in south Wales.
The WHO started their worldwide smallpox eradicated programme in the 1960s and declared the would free of smallpox in 1980. It took only 20s years a remarkable success story. |
No , that's not the case. There were mass inoculations well before that. The big epidemic of 1870 was 70 years after it was introduced and proved to be worthless.
The WHO did embark on a programme, but that was to find pockets of the disease world wide, in conjunction with test and trace and other methods.It was not purely down to vaccination | | | |
| Vaccine on 19:23 - Nov 9 with 1304 views | controversial_jack |
| Vaccine on 19:19 - Nov 9 by felixstowe_jack |
Measles cases in uk
1967 cases 460497 deaths 99
Vacine introduced 1968
1987 cases 86,001 deaths 16
1988 MMR vacine introduced
cases are now currently about 2000 a year although there were 6193 cases in 2013.
Deaths recorded for measles now average 1 per year for the last 30 years. |
Look back further than the 60s when the vaccination was introduced and you will find that death rates did not decrease any quicker after it was introduced
There are no measles deaths in the uk yearly | | | |
| Vaccine on 19:26 - Nov 9 with 1296 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Vaccine on 19:20 - Nov 9 by controversial_jack |
No , that's not the case. There were mass inoculations well before that. The big epidemic of 1870 was 70 years after it was introduced and proved to be worthless.
The WHO did embark on a programme, but that was to find pockets of the disease world wide, in conjunction with test and trace and other methods.It was not purely down to vaccination |
It was eradicated by a collaborative global vaccination programme led by WHO.
They and the countries where smallpox was endemic embarked on a mass vaccination programme. | |
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| Vaccine on 20:08 - Nov 9 with 1251 views | Catullus |
| Vaccine on 17:51 - Nov 9 by Neath_Jack |
The anti-vaxxers are going nuts on social media already |
They went nuts a long while back.
There may be other vaccines out soon too, apparently there are 154 other vaccines in development!
If these vaccines work and covid i brought under control, what will the anti vaxxers say then? that is was a combination of following the rules, distancing, wearing masks, washing hands....all those things people haven't been doing. Lets just hope these vaccines work. | |
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| Vaccine on 20:08 - Nov 9 with 1252 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Vaccine on 19:26 - Nov 9 by felixstowe_jack |
It was eradicated by a collaborative global vaccination programme led by WHO.
They and the countries where smallpox was endemic embarked on a mass vaccination programme. |
Yes, smallpox is the only desease actually declared as "eradicated" by vaccine.
Others are very close to being eradicated. | | | |
| Vaccine on 20:10 - Nov 9 with 1250 views | Professor |
| Vaccine on 19:26 - Nov 9 by felixstowe_jack |
It was eradicated by a collaborative global vaccination programme led by WHO.
They and the countries where smallpox was endemic embarked on a mass vaccination programme. |
You are absolutely correct.
Although Jenner described smallpox vaccines in 1796, full vaccination programmes
Only began in the 20th century. The WHO vaccination programme led to eradication in 1977. Polio (wild polio) has also been eradicated, though mutated vaccine strains may still cause disease (though infrequently). Vaccination has also eradicated rinderpest, a disease of cattle.
Cholera is caused the the bacterium Vibrio cholerae found in contaminated/dirty water.
What you say about measles is also correct (thanks to Wakefield),
Though the rise is from around 100 to around 4-5000 cases in the U.K.
There are occasional deaths from it in the U.K., but over
100,000 worldwide. Vaccines work.
Work even better with other controls | | | |
| Vaccine on 20:16 - Nov 9 with 1239 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Vaccine on 20:10 - Nov 9 by Professor |
You are absolutely correct.
Although Jenner described smallpox vaccines in 1796, full vaccination programmes
Only began in the 20th century. The WHO vaccination programme led to eradication in 1977. Polio (wild polio) has also been eradicated, though mutated vaccine strains may still cause disease (though infrequently). Vaccination has also eradicated rinderpest, a disease of cattle.
Cholera is caused the the bacterium Vibrio cholerae found in contaminated/dirty water.
What you say about measles is also correct (thanks to Wakefield),
Though the rise is from around 100 to around 4-5000 cases in the U.K.
There are occasional deaths from it in the U.K., but over
100,000 worldwide. Vaccines work.
Work even better with other controls |
Just a footnote the vaccination act of 1853 made it compulsory to vaccinate young children. Smallpox was not longer endemic in the UK by 1930.
Later small outbreaks were always traced back to foreign nationals bringing smallpox into the UK, usually seaman when visiting port towns. | |
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| Vaccine on 20:36 - Nov 9 with 1216 views | Scotia |
| Vaccine on 19:20 - Nov 9 by A_Fans_Dad |
From what I understand this Vaccine may have been ready in October. |
I do wonder if this announcement had been made last Monday would the election result had been any different?
It can't have been ready in October as these are preliminary results pending another 70 plus infections. | | | |
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