| 3rd Runway 11:42 - Oct 25 with 8949 views | SuffolkHoop |
Does this involve demolishing the site of our current training ground? [Post edited 25 Oct 2016 12:54]
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| 3rd Runway on 11:49 - Oct 25 with 6039 views | isawqpratwcity |
Are they using our recent form to strengthen the planning case for the 3rd runway? |  |
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| 3rd Runway on 11:54 - Oct 25 with 6022 views | Juzzie |
"Major boost to the UK economy" the Government has said.
I guess then they'll build more houses, more schools, more hospitals and more roads to accommodate all of this?........ The only thing I expect to see more of is flying pigs.
London broke it's 2016 air pollution limit in SIX days. So yes, lets have even more planes flying over London. |  | | |
| 3rd Runway on 11:54 - Oct 25 with 6020 views | QPR_Jim |
I don't think it does involve our current training ground. Harlington is to the North East of the proposed runway on the map I've seen. |  | | |
| 3rd Runway on 11:59 - Oct 25 with 6004 views | LunarJetman |
| 3rd Runway on 11:54 - Oct 25 by QPR_Jim |
I don't think it does involve our current training ground. Harlington is to the North East of the proposed runway on the map I've seen. |
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| 3rd Runway on 12:02 - Oct 25 with 5986 views | Mytch_QPR |
| 3rd Runway on 11:54 - Oct 25 by Juzzie |
"Major boost to the UK economy" the Government has said.
I guess then they'll build more houses, more schools, more hospitals and more roads to accommodate all of this?........ The only thing I expect to see more of is flying pigs.
London broke it's 2016 air pollution limit in SIX days. So yes, lets have even more planes flying over London. |
Infrastructure will be strained to the limits, not to mention the pollution as you rightly point out.
I'd like to see more high speed rail links into Europe and do away with a lot of the 1hr short flights.
Failing that, you'd think there would be more land for expansion at Luton or Stanstead - again with regular high speed rail into central London.
On the plus side, it will be fun to watch Buffoon Boris lie in front of the bulldozers (although we probably won't see one at the site until 2022 or something)... |  |
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| 3rd Runway on 12:15 - Oct 25 with 5938 views | PinnerPaul |
2025 estimated date for completion, needs to go through parliament, lords and legal challenges, so could well be even later than that. |  | | |
| 3rd Runway on 12:37 - Oct 25 with 5865 views | QPR_Jim |
| 3rd Runway on 12:02 - Oct 25 by Mytch_QPR |
Infrastructure will be strained to the limits, not to mention the pollution as you rightly point out.
I'd like to see more high speed rail links into Europe and do away with a lot of the 1hr short flights.
Failing that, you'd think there would be more land for expansion at Luton or Stanstead - again with regular high speed rail into central London.
On the plus side, it will be fun to watch Buffoon Boris lie in front of the bulldozers (although we probably won't see one at the site until 2022 or something)... |
Well this is part of the argument for having high speed trains within the UK, there are flights from Heathrow to Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Leeds, Manchester and Newcastle. With a similar number of internal flights from Gatwick. If we had HS2 and other high speed services which could compete in terms of time with airlines then demand for these internal flights might be reduced and free up capacity at Heathrow and Gatwick. But that's a whole other can of worms. | | | |
| 3rd Runway on 12:43 - Oct 25 with 5842 views | Mytch_QPR |
| 3rd Runway on 12:37 - Oct 25 by QPR_Jim |
Well this is part of the argument for having high speed trains within the UK, there are flights from Heathrow to Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Leeds, Manchester and Newcastle. With a similar number of internal flights from Gatwick. If we had HS2 and other high speed services which could compete in terms of time with airlines then demand for these internal flights might be reduced and free up capacity at Heathrow and Gatwick. But that's a whole other can of worms. |
Exactly this.
So HS2 is also coming and will apparently drop Brum to London travel time to 49 mins, so expanding Midlands airports might also be an option and might bring more wealth to those areas, rather than everything being loaded into the South East area.
Having been stuck in horrendous queues on the M25 with Heathrow as is, it's a thumbs down from me. | |
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| 3rd Runway on 12:45 - Oct 25 with 5834 views | HAYESBOY |
| 3rd Runway on 12:15 - Oct 25 by PinnerPaul |
2025 estimated date for completion, needs to go through parliament, lords and legal challenges, so could well be even later than that. |
Same date as our training ground then. |  |
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| 3rd Runway on 12:52 - Oct 25 with 5802 views | SuffolkHoop |
| 3rd Runway on 11:54 - Oct 25 by QPR_Jim |
I don't think it does involve our current training ground. Harlington is to the North East of the proposed runway on the map I've seen. |
This is what I was wondering. | | | |
| 3rd Runway on 12:59 - Oct 25 with 5765 views | Juzzie |
| 3rd Runway on 12:02 - Oct 25 by Mytch_QPR |
Infrastructure will be strained to the limits, not to mention the pollution as you rightly point out.
I'd like to see more high speed rail links into Europe and do away with a lot of the 1hr short flights.
Failing that, you'd think there would be more land for expansion at Luton or Stanstead - again with regular high speed rail into central London.
On the plus side, it will be fun to watch Buffoon Boris lie in front of the bulldozers (although we probably won't see one at the site until 2022 or something)... |
Luton, Gatwick, Stanstead are all able to expand and spread the load around.
Heathrow Airport Holdings (formerly known as BAA) used to be responsible for Heathrow, Gatwick and Stanstead. If they still were you can bet your bottom dollar they'd be spreading the load.
Now they only own Heathrow (and I think Southampton airport) this is all about HAH making money, fk all to do with what is good for London/UK. | | | |
| 3rd Runway on 13:00 - Oct 25 with 5764 views | Brightonhoop |
| 3rd Runway on 12:02 - Oct 25 by Mytch_QPR |
Infrastructure will be strained to the limits, not to mention the pollution as you rightly point out.
I'd like to see more high speed rail links into Europe and do away with a lot of the 1hr short flights.
Failing that, you'd think there would be more land for expansion at Luton or Stanstead - again with regular high speed rail into central London.
On the plus side, it will be fun to watch Buffoon Boris lie in front of the bulldozers (although we probably won't see one at the site until 2022 or something)... |
Not sure there's any sense in increasing traffic capacities to Europe post Brexit, besides which isn't that what the Chanel Tunnel is for?
Same for HS2 to me, makes no sense at all with technology for video conferencing.
The sums involved are eye watering, like Hinkley Point, will likely be Chinese owned.
There must be better infrastructure projects than these White elephants. |  | | |
| 3rd Runway on 13:01 - Oct 25 with 5756 views | R_from_afar |
| 3rd Runway on 11:54 - Oct 25 by Juzzie |
"Major boost to the UK economy" the Government has said.
I guess then they'll build more houses, more schools, more hospitals and more roads to accommodate all of this?........ The only thing I expect to see more of is flying pigs.
London broke it's 2016 air pollution limit in SIX days. So yes, lets have even more planes flying over London. |
There are so many reasons why we don't need another runway that I don't know where to begin and even if we did, Heathrow would be one of the worst places imaginable to build it.
If the government were really serious about boosting the economy - and to me, it doesn't feel as if they are because they don't have sufficient grit or perseverance to tackle that - there are many better ways they of doing it.
Just watch May go for the full white elephant set. Only HS2 to go after the third runway.
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| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| 3rd Runway on 13:04 - Oct 25 with 5735 views | QPR_Jim |
Yeah I think Harlington is the green patch above the word Sipson. So I don't think it's affected. Anyone who's been there confirm? | | | |
| 3rd Runway on 13:16 - Oct 25 with 5683 views | R_from_afar |
| 3rd Runway on 13:00 - Oct 25 by Brightonhoop |
Not sure there's any sense in increasing traffic capacities to Europe post Brexit, besides which isn't that what the Chanel Tunnel is for?
Same for HS2 to me, makes no sense at all with technology for video conferencing.
The sums involved are eye watering, like Hinkley Point, will likely be Chinese owned.
There must be better infrastructure projects than these White elephants. |
I totally agree, there are better options. Here's one:
The proposed Cardiff Bay tidal power station would generate 3000 Mw, cost £9bn, and have a life of 120 years. Hinckley C, on the other hand, will cost £37bn, generate 3200 Mw and have a 60 year life*.
*If they ever actually manage to build it. The only other power plants which use that design are years behind schedule and billions over budget, due to some triviality relating to the metal lid cracking.
You couldn't make it up. Governments should be spending money like they would their own. Would you buy something, no matter how amazing, if no one had ever actually made one?
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| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| 3rd Runway on 13:28 - Oct 25 with 5652 views | SuffolkHoop |
| 3rd Runway on 13:04 - Oct 25 by QPR_Jim |
Yeah I think Harlington is the green patch above the word Sipson. So I don't think it's affected. Anyone who's been there confirm? |
I think this is true. Our training ground would literally be at the end of the new runway. | | | |
| 3rd Runway on 13:30 - Oct 25 with 5645 views | QPR_Jim |
| 3rd Runway on 13:00 - Oct 25 by Brightonhoop |
Not sure there's any sense in increasing traffic capacities to Europe post Brexit, besides which isn't that what the Chanel Tunnel is for?
Same for HS2 to me, makes no sense at all with technology for video conferencing.
The sums involved are eye watering, like Hinkley Point, will likely be Chinese owned.
There must be better infrastructure projects than these White elephants. |
"Same for HS2 to me, makes no sense at all with technology for video conferencing."
But we already have video conferencing and more people with flexible working locations etc and yet we still have capacity issues on the rail. Personally I like video conferencing but in my company particularly there seems to be a lack of desire for it, as a result I'm driving from Kent to Oxford tomorrow rather than video conferencing.
I think for a country of our size rail should be the primary form of transport for longer distances, we're not big enough to justify lots of internal flights like America and it's a shame longer distance train services are both slow and often crowded. Recently I went to Edinburgh and me and my gf flew from Gatwick while our friends wh were joining us took the train the following day. They couldn't get a seat on their train and it took nearly 5 hrs. My preference for the journey was plane, car then train despite the fact that a train should be ideally placed for a journey of that length. Car would have taken 2hrs more but would have been more comfortable and the plane was quicker even with boarding and check in etc. Anyway my point is that the better infrastructure project you talk of should probably be rail related even if not HS2. | | | |
| 3rd Runway on 13:31 - Oct 25 with 5641 views | theQPRking |
That stretch of the m25 is a write off most of the time, can you imagine when they need to close it to build a tunnel??
Luton is having loads of building work done at the moment but what it needs is a second terminal, and a train link directly into the airport, not 10 mins down the road. Stansted could easily accommodate a second terminal also. |  | | |
| 3rd Runway on 13:31 - Oct 25 with 5639 views | Mytch_QPR |
| 3rd Runway on 13:01 - Oct 25 by R_from_afar |
There are so many reasons why we don't need another runway that I don't know where to begin and even if we did, Heathrow would be one of the worst places imaginable to build it.
If the government were really serious about boosting the economy - and to me, it doesn't feel as if they are because they don't have sufficient grit or perseverance to tackle that - there are many better ways they of doing it.
Just watch May go for the full white elephant set. Only HS2 to go after the third runway.
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I think HS2 is a little more justifiable - particularly if it gets more business and leisure travellers off our over-crowded roads. Our railways are still rather ancient and creaky compared to other developed countries.
Regardless of this, the national debt keeps clocking up a few more billions. | |
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| 3rd Runway on 13:35 - Oct 25 with 5620 views | Mytch_QPR |
| 3rd Runway on 13:28 - Oct 25 by SuffolkHoop |
I think this is true. Our training ground would literally be at the end of the new runway. |
I do hope that you're not entertaining ideas that one of our more expensive players (frequently injured or suspended) has an accident and ends up under the runway? | |
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| 3rd Runway on 13:36 - Oct 25 with 5610 views | LongsufferingR |
| 3rd Runway on 13:28 - Oct 25 by SuffolkHoop |
I think this is true. Our training ground would literally be at the end of the new runway. |
Good job Green left then. Aircraft coming in to land would be in extreme peril from one of his goal kicks. |  | | |
| 3rd Runway on 13:41 - Oct 25 with 5590 views | SuffolkHoop |
| 3rd Runway on 13:31 - Oct 25 by theQPRking |
That stretch of the m25 is a write off most of the time, can you imagine when they need to close it to build a tunnel??
Luton is having loads of building work done at the moment but what it needs is a second terminal, and a train link directly into the airport, not 10 mins down the road. Stansted could easily accommodate a second terminal also. |
Stansted has a train station under the terminal. It has capacity.
Why not spend half the money on improving transport links to there? | | | |
| 3rd Runway on 13:52 - Oct 25 with 5547 views | bosh67 |
I believe it involves demolishing the U18 and U23 areas of the training ground. But there will be little difference as both teams appear to get demolished every week anyway. |  |
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| 3rd Runway on 13:58 - Oct 25 with 5532 views | Northernr |
Yeh as I remember it from visits Harlington is not effected according to this map. You've got the straight road heading north to south from the M4 to the airport where it says Sipson, then further east there's another road not highlighted heading in the same direction and I think Harlington is off that. |  | | |
| 3rd Runway on 13:58 - Oct 25 with 5529 views | connell10 |
Totally agree with the posts on here, but the thing that really gets me is the human cost to local communities, it's heartbreaking for me and really shouldn't happen!! |  |
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