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Depressing..... 15:04 - Dec 30 with 1953 viewsGloucs_R

It seems that every thread seems to be knocking a player, the team, the manager, the owners, the staff, former staff, etc etc etc

To the point where I find all QPR related social media really depressing at the moment. Some people have really short memories, I remember us being in worse positions than we are in, with worse players, worse managers and worse owners....and when you go through these times, you appreciate the good times even more.

From bucket collections to this...



From getting battered every week in the Prem to this...



When you sit back and think about it, we are a small club who have been punching well above their weight for years. From relegation, we waited 15 odd years for a bit of success, it doesnt come that often with Rangers so maybe some should stop moaning and just enjoy it when we do win a game or something else.

Could things be better, yes of course but it may take us another 15 years to win something. In the meantime accept the ups and downs, we're not a fking Cheslea or Man Utd.

Rant over.

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Depressing..... on 15:24 - Dec 30 with 1894 viewsToast_R

Whilst I applaud the sentiment and that it may take QPR another 15 years to win something of significance, right now if feels like it will take that long to score another poxy goal.

Awful. And what makes it worse is that Holloway and Bircham, two legends of the club "the chosen ones" - have tried to help only to be dragged under with it all, forever tarnishing their good names with the club.

We need a miracle and what do we get? Keith bloody Stroud brandishing a red card.
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Depressing..... on 15:27 - Dec 30 with 1882 viewsLblock

We've had more excitement in the last 20 years than some clubs will get in 200

Of course it's all relative
Some of our scum friends were extremely excited to be winning silverware left right and centre on corrupt Russian money
The red northern version were also dreadfully excited to be doing the same and racking up titles year in year out
Arsenal fans are continually excited at their fantastic football and regularly get the "Top Four but never quite First" open top bus out every May

But, my learned friend, I will contend NONE of them have experienced the exciting rollercoaster that is Queens Park Rangers Association Football Club
Founder members of the Premiershit, cruelly denied European football by the scouters, top London club, swagger football, asset stripped, mergers fought off, FA Cup quarter finals, League Cup final, relegation, relegation again, administration, hours from liquidation, play off finals, huge fan and club bond, boardroom wrangles, fan disintegration and infighting, buckets, fan sponsored transfers, billionaires, lower league title fights and runners up spots, play off finals in a third world country, guns in the boardroom, billionaires, hardest title winners, relegation, Wembley win in the biggest club game in the world and relegation plus featuring in the craziest Premiershit title game ever whilst staying up
Most of that is in the last 10 years actually!!!!!

It's shite at the moment but I wouldn't swap it for another club ever

Here for a good time..... not a long time

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Depressing..... on 15:31 - Dec 30 with 1867 viewsTacticalR

I agree with the op, although I do think there is an enormous difference between destructive and constructive criticism (i.e. an enormous difference between a perpetual blind rage which wants to get rid of whoever happens to be in post, and a real analysis of the situation, which may be still be negative but provides a compass to understand our position and see a way forward). It's all therapeutic of course.

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Depressing..... on 15:32 - Dec 30 with 1868 viewsGloucs_R

Depressing..... on 15:27 - Dec 30 by Lblock

We've had more excitement in the last 20 years than some clubs will get in 200

Of course it's all relative
Some of our scum friends were extremely excited to be winning silverware left right and centre on corrupt Russian money
The red northern version were also dreadfully excited to be doing the same and racking up titles year in year out
Arsenal fans are continually excited at their fantastic football and regularly get the "Top Four but never quite First" open top bus out every May

But, my learned friend, I will contend NONE of them have experienced the exciting rollercoaster that is Queens Park Rangers Association Football Club
Founder members of the Premiershit, cruelly denied European football by the scouters, top London club, swagger football, asset stripped, mergers fought off, FA Cup quarter finals, League Cup final, relegation, relegation again, administration, hours from liquidation, play off finals, huge fan and club bond, boardroom wrangles, fan disintegration and infighting, buckets, fan sponsored transfers, billionaires, lower league title fights and runners up spots, play off finals in a third world country, guns in the boardroom, billionaires, hardest title winners, relegation, Wembley win in the biggest club game in the world and relegation plus featuring in the craziest Premiershit title game ever whilst staying up
Most of that is in the last 10 years actually!!!!!

It's shite at the moment but I wouldn't swap it for another club ever



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Depressing..... on 15:33 - Dec 30 with 1857 views2Thomas2Bowles

Depressing..... on 15:27 - Dec 30 by Lblock

We've had more excitement in the last 20 years than some clubs will get in 200

Of course it's all relative
Some of our scum friends were extremely excited to be winning silverware left right and centre on corrupt Russian money
The red northern version were also dreadfully excited to be doing the same and racking up titles year in year out
Arsenal fans are continually excited at their fantastic football and regularly get the "Top Four but never quite First" open top bus out every May

But, my learned friend, I will contend NONE of them have experienced the exciting rollercoaster that is Queens Park Rangers Association Football Club
Founder members of the Premiershit, cruelly denied European football by the scouters, top London club, swagger football, asset stripped, mergers fought off, FA Cup quarter finals, League Cup final, relegation, relegation again, administration, hours from liquidation, play off finals, huge fan and club bond, boardroom wrangles, fan disintegration and infighting, buckets, fan sponsored transfers, billionaires, lower league title fights and runners up spots, play off finals in a third world country, guns in the boardroom, billionaires, hardest title winners, relegation, Wembley win in the biggest club game in the world and relegation plus featuring in the craziest Premiershit title game ever whilst staying up
Most of that is in the last 10 years actually!!!!!

It's shite at the moment but I wouldn't swap it for another club ever


Yeaah I don't get what all the moaning it about

We are without doubt the drama Queens . Park Rangers

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Depressing..... on 15:37 - Dec 30 with 1844 viewsessextaxiboy

I agree with the OP .
We even have polls now to take the p×ss out of the team we "support" fckin pathetic IMO .

The match threads have doom and gloom predictions , followed by scorning the team selection , followed by smug point scoring when things dont go well , followed by"told you so " posts at the end .
Makes you wonder whether they live their life in such a negative way ...
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Depressing..... on 15:46 - Dec 30 with 1817 viewsbosh67

I think we have a very honest bunch of players here at the moment. They don't particularly shirk anything. For me it is more about getting a standard of coaching throughout the club that brings out their full potential. Right now I think the coaching is the weakest link in the club and it has been for a few years now.

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Depressing..... on 15:50 - Dec 30 with 1806 viewsFredManRave

Depressing..... on 15:27 - Dec 30 by Lblock

We've had more excitement in the last 20 years than some clubs will get in 200

Of course it's all relative
Some of our scum friends were extremely excited to be winning silverware left right and centre on corrupt Russian money
The red northern version were also dreadfully excited to be doing the same and racking up titles year in year out
Arsenal fans are continually excited at their fantastic football and regularly get the "Top Four but never quite First" open top bus out every May

But, my learned friend, I will contend NONE of them have experienced the exciting rollercoaster that is Queens Park Rangers Association Football Club
Founder members of the Premiershit, cruelly denied European football by the scouters, top London club, swagger football, asset stripped, mergers fought off, FA Cup quarter finals, League Cup final, relegation, relegation again, administration, hours from liquidation, play off finals, huge fan and club bond, boardroom wrangles, fan disintegration and infighting, buckets, fan sponsored transfers, billionaires, lower league title fights and runners up spots, play off finals in a third world country, guns in the boardroom, billionaires, hardest title winners, relegation, Wembley win in the biggest club game in the world and relegation plus featuring in the craziest Premiershit title game ever whilst staying up
Most of that is in the last 10 years actually!!!!!

It's shite at the moment but I wouldn't swap it for another club ever


Great post LB. I'd like to add the Ibiza Cup to it.

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Depressing..... on 15:53 - Dec 30 with 1794 views2Thomas2Bowles

Depressing..... on 15:46 - Dec 30 by bosh67

I think we have a very honest bunch of players here at the moment. They don't particularly shirk anything. For me it is more about getting a standard of coaching throughout the club that brings out their full potential. Right now I think the coaching is the weakest link in the club and it has been for a few years now.


Can't be, we got CR in

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Depressing..... on 15:57 - Dec 30 with 1782 viewsted_hendrix

Any bloke who has spent his hard earnt cash on a ST or entrance money to watch the shit being currently served up has every goddam right to come on here and have a moan.
Depressing? of course it's depressing, Bobby bloody Zamora? fck me if you was to relate his contracted salary to his goal return and the amount of fish he bloody well caught you might shit yourself but hey ho, lets sing the ooh Bobby Zamora song at Wolves tomorrow, never know we might actually score another goal to add to the December 2016 goal collection.

Moan on here all you want as far as I'm concerned, try your hardest not to moan when your at a game, good luck with that though.

My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

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Depressing..... on 18:22 - Dec 30 with 1643 viewsGloucs_R

Depressing..... on 15:57 - Dec 30 by ted_hendrix

Any bloke who has spent his hard earnt cash on a ST or entrance money to watch the shit being currently served up has every goddam right to come on here and have a moan.
Depressing? of course it's depressing, Bobby bloody Zamora? fck me if you was to relate his contracted salary to his goal return and the amount of fish he bloody well caught you might shit yourself but hey ho, lets sing the ooh Bobby Zamora song at Wolves tomorrow, never know we might actually score another goal to add to the December 2016 goal collection.

Moan on here all you want as far as I'm concerned, try your hardest not to moan when your at a game, good luck with that though.


My point wasn't the player Ted, the point was the day, the final, the atmosphere, the win.

Having a moan is fine, we all do it. Having a vendetta is a completely different thing.

You'be been around for long enough to have seen really good times and really bad times. Would you classify this as really bad? I personally wouldnt.

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Depressing..... on 18:44 - Dec 30 with 1598 viewsLblock

Depressing..... on 18:22 - Dec 30 by Gloucs_R

My point wasn't the player Ted, the point was the day, the final, the atmosphere, the win.

Having a moan is fine, we all do it. Having a vendetta is a completely different thing.

You'be been around for long enough to have seen really good times and really bad times. Would you classify this as really bad? I personally wouldnt.


You're of course right.
The club, as I breifly mentioned above, has been on the verge of extinction and had that kunt Paladini at the helm -- that was the lowest ebb.

However, I feel we're on the verge of that again, different fella with a different agenda but I see what he's done to Caterham and I shudder, really shudder. That aside I just feel my "had enough vessel" is tipping red and I really do have some far more serious and close to home things to bother about...... I used to hate the apathy people had towards the club and it's issues; now I feel ground down and apathetic myself!!

Here for a good time..... not a long time

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Depressing..... on 18:47 - Dec 30 with 1587 viewsHadders

As I wrote on another post the other day, we have a lot to be happy about off the pitch just now, and that matters to me more than the latest results. A lot of football supporters seem to be almost permanently furious men. It just isn't in my nature to feel that ANGRY about football; in our current state, I'm very worried about our terrible form, but feel for Olly and want to support the guy rather than insult him or anyone else. I get the frustration that comes out of Clive's reports, for example, and hope we can learn from mistakes and progress, but I don't feel the slightest desire to yell abuse at anyone.
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Depressing..... on 19:02 - Dec 30 with 1550 viewsHoop_Du_Jour

Depressing..... on 15:37 - Dec 30 by essextaxiboy

I agree with the OP .
We even have polls now to take the p×ss out of the team we "support" fckin pathetic IMO .

The match threads have doom and gloom predictions , followed by scorning the team selection , followed by smug point scoring when things dont go well , followed by"told you so " posts at the end .
Makes you wonder whether they live their life in such a negative way ...


I have great respect for you and most of your wiser posts, but i do take exception this one and here's why....

http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/forum/184665/fernandes-a

http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/forum/180800/light-bulb-

We all like a good moan and at the moment it's hardly a time to rejoice. I believe most of us would love to see things click and the club start to produce some sort of Lazarus like resurgence.

A lot of things are fcking pathetic, but a self deprecating poll is not one of them IMO.

Let's hope for a better new year, even the moaners!
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Depressing..... on 19:17 - Dec 30 with 1515 viewsFredManRave

Depressing..... on 19:02 - Dec 30 by Hoop_Du_Jour

I have great respect for you and most of your wiser posts, but i do take exception this one and here's why....

http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/forum/184665/fernandes-a

http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/forum/180800/light-bulb-

We all like a good moan and at the moment it's hardly a time to rejoice. I believe most of us would love to see things click and the club start to produce some sort of Lazarus like resurgence.

A lot of things are fcking pathetic, but a self deprecating poll is not one of them IMO.

Let's hope for a better new year, even the moaners!


Agreed HDJ.

There's a certain irony in people starting threads and then posting in them with the theme being about how negative and despressing other threads and posters are.

I can't talk about other Social Media as I don't use Facebook or Twitter but I do find it strange moaning about the moaners on here.

It's usually pretty easy to tell how a thread is developing, except for the "Les Flu" thread, so just leave the ones alone you don't like the look of. And to be fair, personally I'll never understand how this place can be described as depressing. It actually provides heavy relief from the actual football. I'm lucky (when we're shít) because I don't go to any games and therefore don't spend any of my hard earned on Rangers and so I can come on here and read up on the football side but just as much I come on here for the wit and repartee and Dorses nob gags.

There are a few drama queens but so what, we're all different, we all have our own style and way of positng, you're not going to like all of it but at least focus on the good stuff which far far outweighs any perceived bad stuff.

It's a football forum. We're men. Our football team is playing shit. We're going to moan.
But there's so much more to this place than the moaning. So much more.

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Depressing..... on 19:22 - Dec 30 with 1509 viewsHoop_Du_Jour

Depressing..... on 19:17 - Dec 30 by FredManRave

Agreed HDJ.

There's a certain irony in people starting threads and then posting in them with the theme being about how negative and despressing other threads and posters are.

I can't talk about other Social Media as I don't use Facebook or Twitter but I do find it strange moaning about the moaners on here.

It's usually pretty easy to tell how a thread is developing, except for the "Les Flu" thread, so just leave the ones alone you don't like the look of. And to be fair, personally I'll never understand how this place can be described as depressing. It actually provides heavy relief from the actual football. I'm lucky (when we're shít) because I don't go to any games and therefore don't spend any of my hard earned on Rangers and so I can come on here and read up on the football side but just as much I come on here for the wit and repartee and Dorses nob gags.

There are a few drama queens but so what, we're all different, we all have our own style and way of positng, you're not going to like all of it but at least focus on the good stuff which far far outweighs any perceived bad stuff.

It's a football forum. We're men. Our football team is playing shit. We're going to moan.
But there's so much more to this place than the moaning. So much more.


Spot on old bean!

(I had no idea Dorse's nob made you gag).
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Depressing..... on 19:32 - Dec 30 with 1472 viewsGloucs_R

Depressing..... on 19:17 - Dec 30 by FredManRave

Agreed HDJ.

There's a certain irony in people starting threads and then posting in them with the theme being about how negative and despressing other threads and posters are.

I can't talk about other Social Media as I don't use Facebook or Twitter but I do find it strange moaning about the moaners on here.

It's usually pretty easy to tell how a thread is developing, except for the "Les Flu" thread, so just leave the ones alone you don't like the look of. And to be fair, personally I'll never understand how this place can be described as depressing. It actually provides heavy relief from the actual football. I'm lucky (when we're shít) because I don't go to any games and therefore don't spend any of my hard earned on Rangers and so I can come on here and read up on the football side but just as much I come on here for the wit and repartee and Dorses nob gags.

There are a few drama queens but so what, we're all different, we all have our own style and way of positng, you're not going to like all of it but at least focus on the good stuff which far far outweighs any perceived bad stuff.

It's a football forum. We're men. Our football team is playing shit. We're going to moan.
But there's so much more to this place than the moaning. So much more.


There is some pretty vile stuff that gets posted on Twitter by our so called fans.

I'm trying to be more positive and highlight that it's been worse and we shouldn't forget that.

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Depressing..... on 19:35 - Dec 30 with 1466 viewsessextaxiboy

Depressing..... on 19:02 - Dec 30 by Hoop_Du_Jour

I have great respect for you and most of your wiser posts, but i do take exception this one and here's why....

http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/forum/184665/fernandes-a

http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/forum/180800/light-bulb-

We all like a good moan and at the moment it's hardly a time to rejoice. I believe most of us would love to see things click and the club start to produce some sort of Lazarus like resurgence.

A lot of things are fcking pathetic, but a self deprecating poll is not one of them IMO.

Let's hope for a better new year, even the moaners!


Thanks for your compliment , hope you are doing ok ..

The first example you cite was a criticism of the owner , just one , not wallowing in it or sarcastic . Just a reflection of his time here . He isnt a player or a coach.

The second one exactly proves my point , it was a reaction to the negative life sucking negativity that is around me on a matchday . Then I get on the train , look on here and its more of the same only these are the people that havnt gone and are slagging "our" team off and seemingly enjoying it .

Find a post where I comment on the performance in an away game , you wont because I didnt see it as I dont get to many

Find a post where I have called for the manager to be sacked , or coated off Henry . You wont find any .

Best wishes

ETB
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Depressing..... on 19:42 - Dec 30 with 1446 viewsHoop_Du_Jour

Depressing..... on 19:35 - Dec 30 by essextaxiboy

Thanks for your compliment , hope you are doing ok ..

The first example you cite was a criticism of the owner , just one , not wallowing in it or sarcastic . Just a reflection of his time here . He isnt a player or a coach.

The second one exactly proves my point , it was a reaction to the negative life sucking negativity that is around me on a matchday . Then I get on the train , look on here and its more of the same only these are the people that havnt gone and are slagging "our" team off and seemingly enjoying it .

Find a post where I comment on the performance in an away game , you wont because I didnt see it as I dont get to many

Find a post where I have called for the manager to be sacked , or coated off Henry . You wont find any .

Best wishes

ETB


I won't even bother looking, I'll take your word for it and I know you're a man of your word.
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Depressing..... on 20:27 - Dec 30 with 1381 viewsLoft1979

Depressing..... on 19:42 - Dec 30 by Hoop_Du_Jour

I won't even bother looking, I'll take your word for it and I know you're a man of your word.


I have enjoyed the group here by and large and I agree with the broad opinion that LFW has been a safe (relatively) haven to just dump some emotions. I think also the QPR brass do listen as well.
I certainly have enjoyed several moments with my brethren thanks to Djibril, Adel and Zamora.
Shared many memories too. Hopefully this dross of a year will retreat quickly.
Bring in Ray Wilkins !

EA
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Depressing..... on 22:06 - Dec 30 with 1283 viewsted_hendrix

Depressing..... on 18:22 - Dec 30 by Gloucs_R

My point wasn't the player Ted, the point was the day, the final, the atmosphere, the win.

Having a moan is fine, we all do it. Having a vendetta is a completely different thing.

You'be been around for long enough to have seen really good times and really bad times. Would you classify this as really bad? I personally wouldnt.


Gloucs,

You'll have to excuse me! I posted that earlier when I was in a bad mood

Look at the risk of repeating myself I've long since fell out of love with football, Not my club just football itself, I'm just an old fashioned bloke that hasn't moved with the times, I cant relate to footballers or the sport itself anymore, I certainly cant relate to their salaries (not their fault I know).

Put me in a room with 100 professional modern day footballers and if Ainsworth or Clint Hill or even the late Alan McDonald was in the room these are the sort of blokes I'd seek out to have a chat with, proper blokes who 99 times out of a 100 put their bodies on the line for Rangers, half the players we've got in our squad nowadays can't even pass the ball 5 metres without fecking it up.

It sounds like a personal thing with Zamora, I was at Wembley of course I was but jesus wept the bloke was crocked when we got him and was crocked when he left, we got so little return for our outlay, again its not his fault we offered him the contract after all.
We've been screwed over for years with Managers/players and their contracts, we've got a Chairman whose desperate to get back to the so called promised land of the Premiership and all it's crap Sky infested money, don't blame him for that I suppose but It's not for me anymore thanks.

This here MB is the only one I post on, I don't visit others and in the current climate you've got to accept that there'll be depressing threads, strewth our record for the last six games say's it all, it really is that bad, yep I've watched us get relegated a few times and I've watched us get promoted too, and stay up on the last day (Etihad).
I really hope and pray that we'll get out of the crap this time but in all honesty I do not think that Holloway can stop the rot, he desperately needs assistance though Bircham does not have the credentials.

There are good knowledgeable ST holder posters who post on here and most of them are getting back from the games and letting rip, there's a reason for that and their entitled to let rip.

Yes I class our current situation as really bad, we'll know even more by tomorrow evening but the way I see it we stink of relegation, I've smelt it before.

Sincerely very sincerely hope i'm wrong.

My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

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