| Fulham. on 09:46 - Nov 14 with 4265 views | paesanu |
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| Fulham. on 09:51 - Nov 14 with 4238 views | Konk |
You have to love modern football. People have incredibly short memories, but I suppose that Ranieri knows a thing or two about that after getting sacked by Leicester.
Gutted for Jokanovic, although he shouldn't struggle to get a decent club. We played some incredible football in the 2nd half of the past two seasons and I think most Fulham fans would have given him more time, even if it ended in relegation. Boo. |  |
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| Fulham. on 10:09 - Nov 14 with 4161 views | derbyhoop |
| Fulham. on 09:51 - Nov 14 by Konk |
You have to love modern football. People have incredibly short memories, but I suppose that Ranieri knows a thing or two about that after getting sacked by Leicester.
Gutted for Jokanovic, although he shouldn't struggle to get a decent club. We played some incredible football in the 2nd half of the past two seasons and I think most Fulham fans would have given him more time, even if it ended in relegation. Boo. |
One shouldn't be surprised, really. There's very little patience in the game these days.
Jokanovic presumably still has plenty of kudos from last season but Fulham have spent a lot of money, still haven't got a decent centre back and don't look equipped to stay up. The manager has to take some of the blame for that. |  |
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| Fulham. on 11:00 - Nov 14 with 4049 views | paulparker |
Fulham have majorly fcuked up here , a very good manager has been dumped , this is a backwards move and I expect Raneri to be gone before the end of the season |  |
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That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Fulham. on 11:08 - Nov 14 with 4021 views | bosh67 |
Dilly Fulham. |  |
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| Fulham. on 11:11 - Nov 14 with 4013 views | Konk |
| Fulham. on 10:09 - Nov 14 by derbyhoop |
One shouldn't be surprised, really. There's very little patience in the game these days.
Jokanovic presumably still has plenty of kudos from last season but Fulham have spent a lot of money, still haven't got a decent centre back and don't look equipped to stay up. The manager has to take some of the blame for that. |
Tony Khan - the owner’s son - is in charge of player analytics, scouting and recruitment. No idea how much say Jokanovic had in such matters. Five of the signings were made on deadline day: Masson was injured and had no pre-season, Joe Bryan has been injured 90% of the time, Chambers looked okay on paper, but had badly struggled etc meaning we’vebeen Chopping and changing every game.
Not much pace in the team and the balance in midfield looks iffy. Fair he also out for most of the season to date and the effort from some of the players at Hudd was pathetic. £50m+ spent on Anguissa who has been poor and Seri, who looked great at first, but has now been dropped after one half-hearted display too many.
No problem with Ranieri, but Jokanovic deserved more time. | |
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| Fulham. on 11:11 - Nov 14 with 4006 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
It's been clear their defense has been abysmal, considering how much they spent and did not sort that out, you have to blame the manager.
Can they sort it in the transfer window, a bit of a wait till then and it may be too late anyway. |  |
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| Fulham. on 11:13 - Nov 14 with 4002 views | rsonist |
Jokanovic did great but it did seem like he'd lost the run of himself spending too much too soon. They really had no defensive shape, no off the ball press, nothing by the end there. Contrast with Wolves who also went up full of attacking talent but have become tight as a drum this season.
Edit - even if he didn't choose his players (good ones by all accounts tbf) he certainly wasn't getting through to them... [Post edited 14 Nov 2018 11:16]
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| Fulham. on 11:18 - Nov 14 with 3980 views | stevec |
Spending over £100m largely on players who've not proved themselves at that level it's hardly surprising he's got the boot. |  | | |
| Fulham. on 11:21 - Nov 14 with 3963 views | Mick_S |
| Fulham. on 11:18 - Nov 14 by stevec |
Spending over £100m largely on players who've not proved themselves at that level it's hardly surprising he's got the boot. |
Steve - this is from Konk's post:
"Tony Khan - the owner’s son - is in charge of player analytics, scouting and recruitment."
I think Mawson has been injured as well - not too helpful! [Post edited 14 Nov 2018 11:21]
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| Fulham. on 11:31 - Nov 14 with 3922 views | TacticalR |
Konk, what's your diagnosis of the problem?
I haven't watched much of the Premiership this season, but I listen to various football podcasts, and the pundits are saying things like 'too much nice football', which I took to mean that playing it out from the back was too dangerous. Or maybe that nice football wasn't for the likes of Fulham. |  |
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| Fulham. on 11:54 - Nov 14 with 3872 views | Toast_R |
They've been dross and lost 6 in a row, losing against teams they're in a relegation scrap with. He had to go. Like QPR, should have kept faith with the team that got them promoted rather than making lots of signings. Reading Konk's comments, the classic Harry Redknapp policy of signing unfit players and wondering why the whole team is so sh*t. |  | | |
| Fulham. on 12:05 - Nov 14 with 3851 views | runningman75 |
Just hope they will beat Chelski now. |  | | |
| Fulham. on 14:00 - Nov 14 with 3683 views | Konk |
| Fulham. on 11:31 - Nov 14 by TacticalR |
Konk, what's your diagnosis of the problem?
I haven't watched much of the Premiership this season, but I listen to various football podcasts, and the pundits are saying things like 'too much nice football', which I took to mean that playing it out from the back was too dangerous. Or maybe that nice football wasn't for the likes of Fulham. |
A whole load of stuff!
Our midfield trio of McDonald, Cairney and Johansen were outstanding at that level, but there was a worry that McDonald might be too slow for the PL, and that Johansen might not have enough to be a regular starter in a team that would do anything but struggle. On top of that, Cairney has missed most of the season.
In defence, we lost Fredericks, who with his pace was often the player responsible for transitioning from defence to attack. At Left-back, we lost Matty Targett, who'd been on loan, after Saints played silly buggers and wanted something like £16m for him. At CB, we signed Mawson, who'd done well at Swansea, but was carrying an injury, so had no pre-season, and Chambers, who looked to be a reasonable signing. Mawson has barely played, whilst Chambers has had an error-strewn start and been dropped. Joe Bryan has been injured at LB, so we've either had Ryan Sessegnon filling in, when he's better forward, or Le Marchand, who's also made a few costly unforced errors. Ream was actually our player of the season last year, but we're yet to see whether he can be relied upon in the PL and Odoi isn't up to it at this level.
In midfield, the balance is all wrong, not much protection for the defence and a lack of real pace means we're not breaking at pace and stretching teams. In short, we're a bit of a mess. However, if we have a fit Mawson and Bryan, I think that could steady things and a fully fit Cairney would also be a real bonus. Most of all, we need the players to pick themselves up and start applying themselves properly rather than sulking. | |
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| Fulham. on 14:18 - Nov 14 with 3624 views | Northernr |
You don't stay in the Premier League with Odoi at centre back. |  | | |
| Fulham. on 14:18 - Nov 14 with 3624 views | thame_hoops |
Fulham guy on radio said last season they had so many loanees that in June this year they only had 9 players ? Unlike QPR he Said they had to buy players in summer to make a squad but paid too much money for them.
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| Fulham. on 14:20 - Nov 14 with 3621 views | stevec |
| Fulham. on 14:00 - Nov 14 by Konk |
A whole load of stuff!
Our midfield trio of McDonald, Cairney and Johansen were outstanding at that level, but there was a worry that McDonald might be too slow for the PL, and that Johansen might not have enough to be a regular starter in a team that would do anything but struggle. On top of that, Cairney has missed most of the season.
In defence, we lost Fredericks, who with his pace was often the player responsible for transitioning from defence to attack. At Left-back, we lost Matty Targett, who'd been on loan, after Saints played silly buggers and wanted something like £16m for him. At CB, we signed Mawson, who'd done well at Swansea, but was carrying an injury, so had no pre-season, and Chambers, who looked to be a reasonable signing. Mawson has barely played, whilst Chambers has had an error-strewn start and been dropped. Joe Bryan has been injured at LB, so we've either had Ryan Sessegnon filling in, when he's better forward, or Le Marchand, who's also made a few costly unforced errors. Ream was actually our player of the season last year, but we're yet to see whether he can be relied upon in the PL and Odoi isn't up to it at this level.
In midfield, the balance is all wrong, not much protection for the defence and a lack of real pace means we're not breaking at pace and stretching teams. In short, we're a bit of a mess. However, if we have a fit Mawson and Bryan, I think that could steady things and a fully fit Cairney would also be a real bonus. Most of all, we need the players to pick themselves up and start applying themselves properly rather than sulking. |
Christ, it sounds like one of our promoted sides.
I don't get this stuff whereby someone other than the manager chooses the signings and I don't think any manager worth having would stand for it. In our case, Holloway let them do that to him but it seems McClaren wasn't so accommodating and we're on the up for a change. Ranieri will most likely rattle that cage and, given some of the dross that end of the table, 30 points from your remaining 26 games could be achievable. | | | |
| Fulham. on 18:52 - Nov 14 with 3337 views | Boston |
I’m confused, I want to wish Fulham good luck ....and be relegated. | |
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| Fulham. on 20:46 - Nov 14 with 3191 views | Harbour |
| Fulham. on 18:52 - Nov 14 by Boston |
I’m confused, I want to wish Fulham good luck ....and be relegated. |
Yes same here really liked the derby games hope they get relegated ....but also would rather other prem sides got relegated so got mixed feelings.. | | | |
| Fulham. on 21:08 - Nov 14 with 3143 views | Konk |
I would have given him the upcoming Saints game to see what happened. Gutted for Slav - his side produced some stunning football, loads of goals and our first ever win at Wembley, after a wait of 43 years to return. The fact that I got to watch Fulham win at Wembley with my son, means that he'll always be a legend for me. Top man. | |
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| Fulham. on 13:52 - Nov 15 with 2861 views | TacticalR |
| Fulham. on 21:08 - Nov 14 by Konk |
I would have given him the upcoming Saints game to see what happened. Gutted for Slav - his side produced some stunning football, loads of goals and our first ever win at Wembley, after a wait of 43 years to return. The fact that I got to watch Fulham win at Wembley with my son, means that he'll always be a legend for me. Top man. |
When Jokanovic's Fulham side were in the Championship I don't think I've ever seen a team play out from the back but starting from so deep.
This season it sounds like too many changes have been made in one go and the whole thing's gone KerPlunk.
People are condemning Fulham for spending £100 million but:
1. Other established teams have spent a lot more. In fact £100 million is a drop in the ocean for them. Liverpool and Chelsea have spent approaching that sort of sum just on goalkeepers (£67 million for the Roma keeper and £71 million for the Athletic Bilbao keeper).
2. If you are a club that's just been promoted then spending £100 million isn't going to get you what £100 million would get an established Premiership team. | |
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| Fulham. on 13:58 - Nov 15 with 2854 views | PinnerPaul |
| Fulham. on 13:52 - Nov 15 by TacticalR |
When Jokanovic's Fulham side were in the Championship I don't think I've ever seen a team play out from the back but starting from so deep.
This season it sounds like too many changes have been made in one go and the whole thing's gone KerPlunk.
People are condemning Fulham for spending £100 million but:
1. Other established teams have spent a lot more. In fact £100 million is a drop in the ocean for them. Liverpool and Chelsea have spent approaching that sort of sum just on goalkeepers (£67 million for the Roma keeper and £71 million for the Athletic Bilbao keeper).
2. If you are a club that's just been promoted then spending £100 million isn't going to get you what £100 million would get an established Premiership team. |
Despite it being shown numerous times that its not all about the money you spend - Leicester, Bournemouth, Watford, Burnley, Huddersfield, Us! - to name but a few - owners still think throwing money at a team should guarantee success. | | | |
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