| Villla - The timekeeping! 16:39 - Jan 3 with 3249 views | PinnerPaul |
Just watched the 90' through
Added time 1st half
Kodja Injury = 1
Lumley injury = 6 1/2
QPR Goal celebs = 1
Pav injury + Villa subs x 2 = 2
QPR Sub = 1
Villa Goal = 1
QPR Sub = 1
Villa Sub = 1/2
I make that 14. Clearly ref has not added anything on for goal celebs nor the timewasting.
Have to say didn't see much wrong with us timewasting wise in 90' - nowhere near justifying the levels of angst on HERE about it!
Added time - he actually played 13 - we made a sub that took a minute, given he's booked both Lumley and Bidwell for timewasting - he's added on 1 more minute for that - that seems fair to me.
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| Villla - The timekeeping! on 15:55 - Jan 5 with 362 views | PinnerPaul |
| Villla - The timekeeping! on 20:25 - Jan 4 by TacticalR |
I see what you are saying. Maybe the reality is that he was prepared to guess a yellow but not guess a red? |
Spot on - its the 'safe' option if you like. | | | |
| Villla - The timekeeping! on 15:58 - Jan 5 with 356 views | PinnerPaul |
| Villla - The timekeeping! on 20:28 - Jan 4 by smegma |
Do refs ever criticise their fellow refs is a more apt question ??? |
Yep - all the time.
Go on to 'Ref Chat' and you see plenty of referees criticising the men on TV and each other!
That's the beauty of football - always something to argue about.
Example - I thought the Kompany tackle on Salah was a nailed on red, as did others on that forum. Ref on the day and other refs thought a yellow was fine. | | | |
| Villla - The timekeeping! on 16:04 - Jan 5 with 350 views | PinnerPaul |
| Villla - The timekeeping! on 09:43 - Jan 5 by Antti_Heinola |
Agree with you Pinner - for me, it was a clear red and not sure how it could be anything else. If the ref didn't 'see' the contact, there's ample evidence to demonstrate it and he certainly wold have 'seen' that Kodija had no need to make contact. Therefpre he made contact, therefore it was deliberate (not that that matters as you say), therefore it's a red.
I mean, come on. You can't tell me a ref can't give a red if he's not sure contact was made or didn't see it, but on closer inspection a guy's nose is hanging off, but he's not allowed to put two and two together? |
Well yes you are 'allowed' to do what you like - but its a' golden rule' if you like to NEVER give anything you haven't seen.
Was at a talk given by Howard Webb a few years back - he was convinced once that an attacker had handled the ball into the net but as he hadn't seen it, gave the goal.
As he came off at half time he said to his AR 'Think we are going to get some stick here about that handball for the goal' AR replied 'What are you on about, ball was nowhere near his hand'
As he said, made him realise more than ever to NEVER give anything you haven't seen.
However you are correct, in this case (and the Rangel incident) you could easily work out what has happened! | | | |
| Villla - The timekeeping! on 16:12 - Jan 5 with 336 views | PinnerPaul |
| Villla - The timekeeping! on 02:10 - Jan 5 by JAPRANGERS |
Thanks Pinner for your knowledgeable insights. Very interesting discourse!
May I ask out of interest, where do you do your refereeing? I mean, which league?? |
Thanks.
I mainly AR these days and like to do a wide variety of leagues.
Amongst others I do Bostick U23s and U18s, Women's PL and the Women's league below that plus some Women's FA and League Cup games.
Some academy games, the odd adult county cup game. I also referee at two local public schools (U16s and U18s) where the facilities and behaviour are superb!
I used to do youth league (U15s/U16s) every week but got a bit fed up with behaviour/facilities so prefer to do most of my officiating at 'proper' clubs where you at least get a changing room, some hospitality afterwards and you get to work with 2 others which is always better than working on your own with 'club assistants' | | | |
| Villla - The timekeeping! on 16:37 - Jan 5 with 298 views | JAPRANGERS |
| Villla - The timekeeping! on 16:12 - Jan 5 by PinnerPaul |
Thanks.
I mainly AR these days and like to do a wide variety of leagues.
Amongst others I do Bostick U23s and U18s, Women's PL and the Women's league below that plus some Women's FA and League Cup games.
Some academy games, the odd adult county cup game. I also referee at two local public schools (U16s and U18s) where the facilities and behaviour are superb!
I used to do youth league (U15s/U16s) every week but got a bit fed up with behaviour/facilities so prefer to do most of my officiating at 'proper' clubs where you at least get a changing room, some hospitality afterwards and you get to work with 2 others which is always better than working on your own with 'club assistants' |
That's great. You're certainly the man for us all to consult when we have refereeing queries! |  | | |
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