| Our country is fckd match thread 20:04 - Jan 15 with 205938 views | BlackCrowe |
On one side we have a spineless and rudderless government full of self-serving narcissistic cnts utterly divided.
On the other side we have spineless and rudderless opposition full of self-serving narcissistic cnts utterly divided.
Can someone please show us a third way beyond flipping Vince. Failing a Chuka et al third way then Disco, you're the man no to save us from jezwecan, Diane, Sneery Emily and McDonnell no? [Post edited 15 Jan 2019 20:05]
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 00:08 - Jan 19 with 3357 views | GloryHunter |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 16:23 - Jan 18 by jonno |
Err....once you gain citizenship in the UK you are entitled to vote, and this is what the Labour party anticipated happening with a resulting increase in votes for them. Plenty of immigrants apply for and obtain citizenship. It was recently shown that immigration has actually suppressed wages in certain areas of the country - and these areas generally had a larger vote for leave in the referendum. Also, the CBI recently stated that wages have started to increase now as a result of fewer EU immigrants coming into the country, and more departing, as a result of the referendum result. |
EU citizens have had no need to apply for UK citizenship, as they have previously been allowed to live and work here freely. My wife is an EU citizen and has lived and worked in the UK for 34 years, paying tax and NI. But she has never been allowed to vote in parliamentary elections, or the EU referendum. She has never suppressed anyone's wages, because she runs her own business, providing healthcare support to cancer survivors. I guess you'd be happy to send her back to her country of birth. |  | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 00:24 - Jan 19 with 3342 views | distortR |
when the whole brexit thing gets a bit too much, i like to console myself with the thought that, whatever the outcome, the rich will still be rich and the poor will still be poor.
Christ, what would happen if anyone ever proposed real change?
Because brexit/remain are, ultimately, two sides of the same coin.
I'm done,
peace. |  | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread (n/t) on 03:04 - Jan 19 with 3312 views | Sharpy36 |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 00:08 - Jan 19 by GloryHunter |
EU citizens have had no need to apply for UK citizenship, as they have previously been allowed to live and work here freely. My wife is an EU citizen and has lived and worked in the UK for 34 years, paying tax and NI. But she has never been allowed to vote in parliamentary elections, or the EU referendum. She has never suppressed anyone's wages, because she runs her own business, providing healthcare support to cancer survivors. I guess you'd be happy to send her back to her country of birth. |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 07:55 - Jan 19 with 3239 views | jonno |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 00:08 - Jan 19 by GloryHunter |
EU citizens have had no need to apply for UK citizenship, as they have previously been allowed to live and work here freely. My wife is an EU citizen and has lived and worked in the UK for 34 years, paying tax and NI. But she has never been allowed to vote in parliamentary elections, or the EU referendum. She has never suppressed anyone's wages, because she runs her own business, providing healthcare support to cancer survivors. I guess you'd be happy to send her back to her country of birth. |
Err...far from it, where have I said that? I am an EU immigrant myself in Cyprus! Obviously, not all immigrants into the UK have had an impact on wages but it stands to reason that there would have been in some industries (such as the building industry for instance). And yes, your wife has not been allowed to vote, but my point is that she could have been had she applied for and obtained UK citizenship which I believe she is entitled to do. |  | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 08:26 - Jan 19 with 3217 views | GloryHunter |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 07:55 - Jan 19 by jonno |
Err...far from it, where have I said that? I am an EU immigrant myself in Cyprus! Obviously, not all immigrants into the UK have had an impact on wages but it stands to reason that there would have been in some industries (such as the building industry for instance). And yes, your wife has not been allowed to vote, but my point is that she could have been had she applied for and obtained UK citizenship which I believe she is entitled to do. |
Until two years ago she couldn't do it, because it would have meant giving up her own nationality. She's applying now, and it's costing us the best part of £2k. She's lucky because she can prove her uninterrupted work record. Other EU citizens - especially women who have stopped working to have children or care for elderly parents - are being knocked back. | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 20:51 - Jan 19 with 3051 views | QPR_John |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 00:08 - Jan 19 by GloryHunter |
EU citizens have had no need to apply for UK citizenship, as they have previously been allowed to live and work here freely. My wife is an EU citizen and has lived and worked in the UK for 34 years, paying tax and NI. But she has never been allowed to vote in parliamentary elections, or the EU referendum. She has never suppressed anyone's wages, because she runs her own business, providing healthcare support to cancer survivors. I guess you'd be happy to send her back to her country of birth. |
Can I say once again say you should not use "EU citizen" as an overall group to imply restrictions as it does not apply to nationals of a particular EU country. My wife is an EU citizen and has worked in the U.K. for the last 50 years paid tax and NI and can vote in parliamentary elections and all referendums and does not have to apply for any right to remain when we leave. [Post edited 19 Jan 2019 21:32]
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 21:58 - Jan 20 with 2920 views | GloryHunter |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 20:51 - Jan 19 by QPR_John |
Can I say once again say you should not use "EU citizen" as an overall group to imply restrictions as it does not apply to nationals of a particular EU country. My wife is an EU citizen and has worked in the U.K. for the last 50 years paid tax and NI and can vote in parliamentary elections and all referendums and does not have to apply for any right to remain when we leave. [Post edited 19 Jan 2019 21:32]
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So your wife is Irish, then? A somewhat different situation. Spouses who are citizens of the other 26 ("mainland"*, if you prefer) EU countries do not have those rights. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.
* Excluding Cyprus.
Edited to add that Cypress is not a mainland country. [Post edited 20 Jan 2019 23:06]
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 13:16 - Jan 21 with 2779 views | QPR_John |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 21:58 - Jan 20 by GloryHunter |
So your wife is Irish, then? A somewhat different situation. Spouses who are citizens of the other 26 ("mainland"*, if you prefer) EU countries do not have those rights. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.
* Excluding Cyprus.
Edited to add that Cypress is not a mainland country. [Post edited 20 Jan 2019 23:06]
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Quite right but still an EU citizen. My point being that the CTA has been conveniently ignore when the talk is about EU citizens. I do think any EU citizen who has lived here for more than 5 years should be able to apply for settled status without a having to pay for by privilege.
Slightly off tangent but one definition of the word citizen is
"Definition of citizen - a legally recognized subject or national of a state or commonwealth, either native or naturalized."
As I understand the EU is neither of the above two can you really be an EU citizen. | | | |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 18:40 - Jan 21 with 2691 views | colinallcars |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 13:16 - Jan 21 by QPR_John |
Quite right but still an EU citizen. My point being that the CTA has been conveniently ignore when the talk is about EU citizens. I do think any EU citizen who has lived here for more than 5 years should be able to apply for settled status without a having to pay for by privilege.
Slightly off tangent but one definition of the word citizen is
"Definition of citizen - a legally recognized subject or national of a state or commonwealth, either native or naturalized."
As I understand the EU is neither of the above two can you really be an EU citizen. |
Going off at a tangent - what's the difference between a British subject and a British Citizen. |  | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 12:29 - Jan 22 with 2521 views | runningman75 |
The new Brexit deal with now being driven to Brussels by the countries most respected royal Prince Philip. | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 12:43 - Jan 22 with 2497 views | hopphoops |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 12:29 - Jan 22 by runningman75 |
The new Brexit deal with now being driven to Brussels by the countries most respected royal Prince Philip. |
There was a question on The Chase the other night, "What was the first TV programme in which the Duke of Edinburgh participated live?"
I guess it had been pre-recorded a while back, else the obvious answer would have been Crimewatch. |  |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 14:01 - Jan 22 with 2425 views | Toast_R |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 12:43 - Jan 22 by hopphoops |
There was a question on The Chase the other night, "What was the first TV programme in which the Duke of Edinburgh participated live?"
I guess it had been pre-recorded a while back, else the obvious answer would have been Crimewatch. |
I just happened to catch a snippet of that woman (victim) on This Morning, yesterday...?
Someone has filled her head with the idea of making the most of it and then some. Cringingly appalling.
Join the queue of the other thousands of people who get the run around from insurance companies when involved in an accident. |  | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 14:34 - Jan 22 with 2391 views | Juzzie |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 14:01 - Jan 22 by Toast_R |
I just happened to catch a snippet of that woman (victim) on This Morning, yesterday...?
Someone has filled her head with the idea of making the most of it and then some. Cringingly appalling.
Join the queue of the other thousands of people who get the run around from insurance companies when involved in an accident. |
In the Metro yesterday she was upset that they didn't even send a bunch of flowers.
FFS, how many other people involved in RTA's get flowers from the other party??
On top of that, she said they didn't say 'sorry'. Well, not defending Prince Philip who's a bit of a buffoon but insurance companies tell people not to say sorry as that's then an admission of fault. You say nothing and let the appropriate authorities sort it out.
Clearly milking it for max. compensation. |  | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 15:27 - Feb 6 with 2089 views | loftboy |
Tusk showing the EU’s true colours today, apparently those who campaigned for Brexit have a special place in Hell waiting for them. |  |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 15:34 - Feb 6 with 2064 views | kensalriser |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 15:27 - Feb 6 by loftboy |
Tusk showing the EU’s true colours today, apparently those who campaigned for Brexit have a special place in Hell waiting for them. |
You forgot the qualifier 'with no plan'.
He is entirely right, of course. But some of them did have a plan (eg Crispin Odey) - financial gain. [Post edited 6 Feb 2019 15:34]
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 15:34 - Feb 6 with 2061 views | QPR_John |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 15:27 - Feb 6 by loftboy |
Tusk showing the EU’s true colours today, apparently those who campaigned for Brexit have a special place in Hell waiting for them. |
Tusk works for the EU which in the opinion of many gives him carte blanc to say what he likes. Now if a brexiteer had said something similar about remainers it would be all over the media and James O'Brian would be spitting blood. | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 15:38 - Feb 6 with 2053 views | QPR_John |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 15:34 - Feb 6 by kensalriser |
You forgot the qualifier 'with no plan'.
He is entirely right, of course. But some of them did have a plan (eg Crispin Odey) - financial gain. [Post edited 6 Feb 2019 15:34]
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 15:47 - Feb 6 with 2040 views | Northernr |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 15:38 - Feb 6 by QPR_John |
But is that acceptable language from a civil servant |
Oh honestly who gives a sht? Hunt described the EU as like a Soviet Prison and Johnson, among many other things, said it was following in the footsteps of Hitler and like a concentration camp guard. And whenever the EU says something the exit people jump up and down and say "true colours true colours project fear project fear" and whenever the exit people say it James O'Brien and the like get up on their high horse about use of language and on and on it goes.
They're like pathetic little children on both sides, 50 days to sort this mess out and they're still behaving like this. |  | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 15:56 - Feb 6 with 2020 views | kensalriser |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 15:47 - Feb 6 by Northernr |
Oh honestly who gives a sht? Hunt described the EU as like a Soviet Prison and Johnson, among many other things, said it was following in the footsteps of Hitler and like a concentration camp guard. And whenever the EU says something the exit people jump up and down and say "true colours true colours project fear project fear" and whenever the exit people say it James O'Brien and the like get up on their high horse about use of language and on and on it goes.
They're like pathetic little children on both sides, 50 days to sort this mess out and they're still behaving like this. |
50 days? Try two and a half years and counting.
If I were Donald Tusk, having to deal with bunch of entitled delusional fckwits who can't even agree among themselves what day of the week it is, I think my language would be quite a lot less retrained. | |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 16:45 - Feb 6 with 1962 views | QPR_John |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 15:47 - Feb 6 by Northernr |
Oh honestly who gives a sht? Hunt described the EU as like a Soviet Prison and Johnson, among many other things, said it was following in the footsteps of Hitler and like a concentration camp guard. And whenever the EU says something the exit people jump up and down and say "true colours true colours project fear project fear" and whenever the exit people say it James O'Brien and the like get up on their high horse about use of language and on and on it goes.
They're like pathetic little children on both sides, 50 days to sort this mess out and they're still behaving like this. |
It really was just a hook to hang the point that all Tusk is is a civil servant who thinks he is more important than that | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 17:37 - Feb 6 with 1903 views | hopphoops |
Now I respect Tusk. But the first thing I thought when I saw that was "Oi! Tusk! Noooooooo! You'll reopen the Brexit fred!"
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 17:54 - Feb 6 with 1876 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
Why is he so upset, he will remain in the EU and keep his job, 27 of them thinking everything EU is great, why do they need little old UK
Is he worried about the dear lives of citizens of the UK or how must the EU will lose.
He clearly has no idea what a democratic vote means.
Why his he throwing his toys out of the pram [Post edited 6 Feb 2019 17:56]
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 18:20 - Feb 6 with 1839 views | Jigsore |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 15:27 - Feb 6 by loftboy |
Tusk showing the EU’s true colours today, apparently those who campaigned for Brexit have a special place in Hell waiting for them. |
Those who campaigned with no plan... I.e Gove, Johnson, Davis.
It's very hard to actually get that wrong unless you've only read the headlines from the numerous usual outlets who are purposely obfuscating the nature of the actual quote. A perfect example of what's created this atmosphere where facts and fiction are completely interchangable... |  |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 18:32 - Feb 6 with 1818 views | loftboy |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 18:20 - Feb 6 by Jigsore |
Those who campaigned with no plan... I.e Gove, Johnson, Davis.
It's very hard to actually get that wrong unless you've only read the headlines from the numerous usual outlets who are purposely obfuscating the nature of the actual quote. A perfect example of what's created this atmosphere where facts and fiction are completely interchangable... |
No I watched his speech, he shouldn’t have said that end of. Came across as a very bitter person who has realised the first of many dominos are about to fall. | |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 18:35 - Feb 6 with 1813 views | colinallcars |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 16:45 - Feb 6 by QPR_John |
It really was just a hook to hang the point that all Tusk is is a civil servant who thinks he is more important than that |
He is right. The likes of Boris Johnson bamboozled a lot of people into voting leave. He surely must have know difficulties we would encounter but wanted to portray himself as a sort of saviour and wanted to be the next prime minister. Sadly a lot of voters fell for it hook line andsinker and have left us on $hit street. | | | |
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