| Our country is fckd match thread 20:04 - Jan 15 with 204529 views | BlackCrowe |
On one side we have a spineless and rudderless government full of self-serving narcissistic cnts utterly divided.
On the other side we have spineless and rudderless opposition full of self-serving narcissistic cnts utterly divided.
Can someone please show us a third way beyond flipping Vince. Failing a Chuka et al third way then Disco, you're the man no to save us from jezwecan, Diane, Sneery Emily and McDonnell no? [Post edited 15 Jan 2019 20:05]
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| Our country is fckd match thread (n/t) on 18:57 - Jun 11 with 1938 views | essextaxiboy |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 15:26 - Jun 11 by BazzaInTheLoft |
While you sat in your Welsh caravan shitting your pants about El Dog’s Trust people got off their arse and worked fcking hard. That isn’t intimidation.
I’m not even going to address the rest. Proper mental. [Post edited 11 Jun 2019 15:29]
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 21:23 - Jun 11 with 1797 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
The only way you could do something like that would be, Leave/Remain as the main vote then a second option box of Leave with or without a deal. with that deal spelled out.
As we have already had the Leave /Remain vote and Mp's and parties agreed to implement the result, they just can't agree to May's deal then really there should only be another referendum on Leave with or without a deal. |  |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 21:48 - Jun 11 with 1768 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 20:07 - Jun 11 by CaptainPugwash |
Harrrrrrrharrrrrrr...
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Don’t you think it’s a bit tragic a guy I presume is in his 60s pretending to be a pirate so he can get on a football forum to shit on other people’s graft and call it fraud and intimidation?
500 Labour members volunteered their own time away from their work and families to get to Peterborough because they believe in it. What the fck have you ever done for ANY cause you believe in?
All you’ve done it wrote a snide libellous post on LfW. I have more respect for the activists who get out and march under Swastikas because at the very least they have left their house to spread their poison.
Have a word with yourself. |  | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 22:15 - Jun 11 with 1736 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 21:48 - Jun 11 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Don’t you think it’s a bit tragic a guy I presume is in his 60s pretending to be a pirate so he can get on a football forum to shit on other people’s graft and call it fraud and intimidation?
500 Labour members volunteered their own time away from their work and families to get to Peterborough because they believe in it. What the fck have you ever done for ANY cause you believe in?
All you’ve done it wrote a snide libellous post on LfW. I have more respect for the activists who get out and march under Swastikas because at the very least they have left their house to spread their poison.
Have a word with yourself. |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 22:55 - Jun 11 with 1691 views | PunteR |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 21:48 - Jun 11 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Don’t you think it’s a bit tragic a guy I presume is in his 60s pretending to be a pirate so he can get on a football forum to shit on other people’s graft and call it fraud and intimidation?
500 Labour members volunteered their own time away from their work and families to get to Peterborough because they believe in it. What the fck have you ever done for ANY cause you believe in?
All you’ve done it wrote a snide libellous post on LfW. I have more respect for the activists who get out and march under Swastikas because at the very least they have left their house to spread their poison.
Have a word with yourself. |
Chill out Bazza. Where's your sense of humor gone?
Good for your 500 members, well done them.
You spout enough bollox on here so why cant Blob/Pugwash?
Lets see where you are when your 60 years + [Post edited 11 Jun 2019 23:01]
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 23:03 - Jun 11 with 1685 views | WEAREAWFUL |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 15:26 - Jun 11 by BazzaInTheLoft |
While you sat in your Welsh caravan shitting your pants about El Dog’s Trust people got off their arse and worked fcking hard. That isn’t intimidation.
I’m not even going to address the rest. Proper mental. [Post edited 11 Jun 2019 15:29]
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 23:07 - Jun 11 with 1678 views | PunteR |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 23:03 - Jun 11 by WEAREAWFUL |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 23:12 - Jun 11 with 1672 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 22:55 - Jun 11 by PunteR |
Chill out Bazza. Where's your sense of humor gone?
Good for your 500 members, well done them.
You spout enough bollox on here so why cant Blob/Pugwash?
Lets see where you are when your 60 years + [Post edited 11 Jun 2019 23:01]
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It’s hit a nerve because it’s aimed at me and a lot of people I know.
Imagine I called all chippies fraudsters and racists? I reckon you’d have something to say. Goes a bit beyond.
It’s my fault for engaging this sewer. [Post edited 11 Jun 2019 23:19]
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 23:12 - Jun 11 with 1671 views | DannytheR |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 23:03 - Jun 11 by WEAREAWFUL |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 23:29 - Jun 11 with 1650 views | FDC |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 23:12 - Jun 11 by DannytheR |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 08:23 - Jun 12 with 1516 views | Northernr |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 23:03 - Jun 11 by WEAREAWFUL |
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It's a not unfair response to being accused of intimidating voters, election rigging and racism. |  | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 09:59 - Jun 12 with 1453 views | Clive_Anderson |
Not been on here ages so thought I'd have a look to see if it's still crawling with Momentum types shouting abuse at anyone with a slightly different opinion and I see this thread.
I particularly liked the response to accusation of intimidation by these types by being nasty, personal and intimidating to a pensioner on here for having the wrong opinion.
I wouldn't want to imagine a thousand of these cnts, sorry activists all spewing their bile at once.
Of course he was refering to the fact that the Jewish Labour Movement has called on the Labour party to suspend their new MP for anti-semetic behavior.
And the fact that convicted vote-rigger Tariq Mahmood was campaigning for Labour in Peterborough. Not to mention the huge numbers of postal votes compared to any other election.
Of course anyone who points out these facts is fair game for personal and vindictive abuse apparently, with a moderator who eggs these cnts on repeatedly while telling anyone who opposes them to "wind it in" at the first opportunity.
I suppose it gives them a break from abusing Jewish people on Twitter for 5 minutes. | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 10:17 - Jun 12 with 1429 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
Well it's clear now I'm one of the "nice guy" leavers along with Loftboy and Disco and a "few" others.
Respect the owner/mod even if I don't always agree with him. | |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 10:44 - Jun 12 with 1408 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 09:59 - Jun 12 by Clive_Anderson |
Not been on here ages so thought I'd have a look to see if it's still crawling with Momentum types shouting abuse at anyone with a slightly different opinion and I see this thread.
I particularly liked the response to accusation of intimidation by these types by being nasty, personal and intimidating to a pensioner on here for having the wrong opinion.
I wouldn't want to imagine a thousand of these cnts, sorry activists all spewing their bile at once.
Of course he was refering to the fact that the Jewish Labour Movement has called on the Labour party to suspend their new MP for anti-semetic behavior.
And the fact that convicted vote-rigger Tariq Mahmood was campaigning for Labour in Peterborough. Not to mention the huge numbers of postal votes compared to any other election.
Of course anyone who points out these facts is fair game for personal and vindictive abuse apparently, with a moderator who eggs these cnts on repeatedly while telling anyone who opposes them to "wind it in" at the first opportunity.
I suppose it gives them a break from abusing Jewish people on Twitter for 5 minutes. |
I know I’m wasting my breath but here (text lifted from an article) is why Labour won Peterborough and why there was a massive postal vote surge:
1. Labour’s ruthless campaign for the recall of Fiona Onasanya
After Peterborough’s Labour MP, Fiona Onasanya, was found guilty in December of perverting the course of justice, Labour HQ decided the party should be seen by local voters to be at the forefront of any campaign to eject her from office. Despite her continuing loyalty to Jeremy Corbyn, there was no sentimentality, and a focus on securing a next MP in the swing seat. Corbyn issued a statement calling for his one-time party whip to stand down. In January, two full-time party workers were assigned to the city. The ground war had begun.
2. An already impressive Labour database became even better
Labour knows its voters across the city, having fought the 2015 and 2017 general elections against a well-oiled Conservative machine led by Stewart Jackson. The recall campaign was used to fine-tune its knowledge of individual streets, which were then assigned to specific councillors and activists. One councillor told the Guardian he had visited one road four times before the end of May, and one activist said they had knocked on some doors up to nine times on polling day to get the vote out.
3. Postal votes
Labour realised its core supporters might suffer from voter fatigue after four years in which there have been two general elections, an EU referendum, and local and European elections. So Labour voters were encouraged, more than any other year, to vote by post. It appeared to work — turnout among postal voters was 69.4%.
Newly elected Labour MP Lisa Forbes gives her winner’s speech after the count
The newly elected Labour MP Lisa Forbes gives her winner’s speech after the count.Photograph: Joe Giddens/PA
4. Labour concentrated on local issues
Voters told Labour it would lose if it fought Peterborough on Brexit, leadership and the economy. So it focused on three issues that have particularly worried local voters: a rising crime rate, the state of local schools, and fly-tipping. This strategy caused some concern, particularly after the EU elections revealed that a single national issue, Brexit, could dominate all others. Before the count on Thursday night, one Labour fixer said: “If we pull this off, it will show that you can run a local campaign and beat a huge national issue. We have policing, fly-tipping and education; they have Brexit, Brexit and more Brexit.”
5. Momentum mobilised hundreds of activists
Despite internal rows over Brexit and tensions between the head of Momentum, Jon Lansman, and Corbyn’s key advisers, the grassroots organisation that swept Corbyn to the top of the party is still a significant force.
Momentum claims it mobilised nearly 1,000 activists to knock on doors or make calls in the runup to the byelection. This included activists carpooled to Peterborough from North Wales, London, Winchester, Leeds, Grantham, Leicester, Brighton, Bretton, Northampton and Norwich. Others made thousands of calls using Momentum’s distributed phone bank system to mobilise local party members and persuade swing voters. More than 300 people canvassed on the Saturday before polling day and 500 knocked on doors on polling day.
Canvassers successfully squeezed the Lib Dem and Green vote on the doorstep by warning that a misplaced vote could give the Brexit party a foothold. One Guardian reader from the city said he had been visited by Ed Miliband and several activists this week imploring him to vote tactically for Labour — and he was won over.
6. A snap byelection caught out Nigel Farage’s party
One Brexit party insider said: “Labour were sensible in calling a snap byelection while our new party was focusing on the Euros. It was just too big a hill to climb for a fledgling party with no historic data.”
7. The Tory vote held up better than expected
The Conservative candidate, Paul Bristow, surprised many by holding on to about 7,000 votes. despite the implosion of the national party over Brexit.
Labour owe him a big thank you, one key Brexit party official said. “The Tories worked very hard, from the moment that Onasanya was found guilty, to keep their vote. Without that work, we would have won.”
And for a real contrasting view from another Jewish group within the Labour Party on antisemitism and media coverage of anti semitism.
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/app/uploads/2019/05/Journalists-check-yo
Twitter is an abusive sewer, including but not exclusive to Labour people. [Post edited 12 Jun 2019 11:09]
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 10:46 - Jun 12 with 1402 views | johncharles |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 10:17 - Jun 12 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Well it's clear now I'm one of the "nice guy" leavers along with Loftboy and Disco and a "few" others.
Respect the owner/mod even if I don't always agree with him. |
Not sure Disco would want the title “nice guy” . Loftboy can quite “robust” at times as well.
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 11:05 - Jun 12 with 1371 views | klonk |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 21:23 - Jun 11 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
The only way you could do something like that would be, Leave/Remain as the main vote then a second option box of Leave with or without a deal. with that deal spelled out.
As we have already had the Leave /Remain vote and Mp's and parties agreed to implement the result, they just can't agree to May's deal then really there should only be another referendum on Leave with or without a deal. |
i always hate going anywhere near politics, but i've never understood why everyone seems to feel the question on any second referendum is so tricky.
i don't understand why having 3 options (accept whatever deal the government offers, leave with no deal or remain in the eu) and letting everyone set out their first and second choices is so tricky. after counting all the first choice votes, the third-placed option is eliminated and the second choices for that option are added to the remaining two options.
that way, there should (hopefully) be some proper discussion about what the three options actually mean and people can make an informed decision. | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 11:16 - Jun 12 with 1348 views | Clive_Anderson |
"I know I’m wasting my breath but here is why Labour won Peterborough and why there was a massive postal vote surge"
It looks like you're wasting the Guardian's breath which is where you copied the article from 
You have your view and other people have theirs. There's reasons why there are questions regarding the postal vote, especially when there's convicted election fraudsters working behind the scenes.
Why you feel the need to shout abuse at anyone with another opinion is beyond me. | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 11:23 - Jun 12 with 1338 views | Northernr |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 09:59 - Jun 12 by Clive_Anderson |
Not been on here ages so thought I'd have a look to see if it's still crawling with Momentum types shouting abuse at anyone with a slightly different opinion and I see this thread.
I particularly liked the response to accusation of intimidation by these types by being nasty, personal and intimidating to a pensioner on here for having the wrong opinion.
I wouldn't want to imagine a thousand of these cnts, sorry activists all spewing their bile at once.
Of course he was refering to the fact that the Jewish Labour Movement has called on the Labour party to suspend their new MP for anti-semetic behavior.
And the fact that convicted vote-rigger Tariq Mahmood was campaigning for Labour in Peterborough. Not to mention the huge numbers of postal votes compared to any other election.
Of course anyone who points out these facts is fair game for personal and vindictive abuse apparently, with a moderator who eggs these cnts on repeatedly while telling anyone who opposes them to "wind it in" at the first opportunity.
I suppose it gives them a break from abusing Jewish people on Twitter for 5 minutes. |
If you'd been around for my previous posts on Momentum and Corbyn you'd know how ridiculous that accusation is, but nice to see you back posting anyway. | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 11:25 - Jun 12 with 1327 views | loftboy |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 10:46 - Jun 12 by johncharles |
Not sure Disco would want the title “nice guy” . Loftboy can quite “robust” at times as well.
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 11:57 - Jun 12 with 1286 views | johncharles |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 21:52 - Jun 10 by essextaxiboy |
So potentially they could lose twice and still revoke Article 50 ? You just said they are scared of revoking after one defeat . |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 13:19 - Jun 12 with 1200 views | QPR_Jim |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 11:16 - Jun 12 by Clive_Anderson |
"I know I’m wasting my breath but here is why Labour won Peterborough and why there was a massive postal vote surge"
It looks like you're wasting the Guardian's breath which is where you copied the article from
You have your view and other people have theirs. There's reasons why there are questions regarding the postal vote, especially when there's convicted election fraudsters working behind the scenes.
Why you feel the need to shout abuse at anyone with another opinion is beyond me. |
"Why you feel the need to shout abuse at anyone with another opinion is beyond me."
Says the guy who's last post called both labour activists and people who post on here he disagrees with cnts. |  | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 13:31 - Jun 12 with 1179 views | Clive_Anderson |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 11:23 - Jun 12 by Northernr |
If you'd been around for my previous posts on Momentum and Corbyn you'd know how ridiculous that accusation is, but nice to see you back posting anyway. |
Fair enough I didn't see it.
I just saw usual suspects giving someone (Blob?) a load of unwarranted nasty and personal abuse and had to say something.
The fact that they've been doing this day in and day out for years on end is quite impressive in its own way I guess. | | | |
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