| No accounting for success - Preview on 13:34 - Feb 19 with 1005 views | Nov77 |
It’s the stupidity of some fans who compare our youngsters to some of the games greats after they have only made a handful of appearances that get me. They then can’t understand how they didn’t live up to their expectations, blaming the player instead of their own moronic comparisons.
Finney was at it after the Leeds game, saying Oteh reminds him of Les. Really? |  |
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| No accounting for success - Preview on 13:42 - Feb 19 with 994 views | Northernr |
Club haven't helped on that front with Eze. Ridiculous levels of hype. I know we're fattening a pig for market but come on guys, let the kid find his way. |  | | |
| No accounting for success - Preview on 13:56 - Feb 19 with 955 views | Harbour |
| No accounting for success - Preview on 13:42 - Feb 19 by Northernr |
Club haven't helped on that front with Eze. Ridiculous levels of hype. I know we're fattening a pig for market but come on guys, let the kid find his way. |
In G block Friday night Eze was getting loads of flack had only been on the pitch 5 minutes ....sometimes I despair of our fans.... |  | | |
| No accounting for success - Preview on 14:06 - Feb 19 with 934 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
Nice article again thank you .Not looking good on the financial side but a few points bagged will help lift the mood all around QPR.
Loved the video highlights of Chair and he did play a great game it looked like.Have to say its one of the most underwhelming call of his first goal by the commentator I have ever heard.He did pick it up for the second one though.
He should listed to the South American commentators Goal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! add 2 minutes | | | |
| No accounting for success - Preview on 14:11 - Feb 19 with 917 views | Antti_Heinola |
Broadly, fans are idiots (I include myself in this). The abuse Les used to get was diabolical - exactly the same 'lazy' comments as Eze gets now. It's always been the same. Only now those same fans have an outlet on social media to be really nasty.
Clive's spot on in this article as usual. We all love young players coming through, but with that, you need patience. Alan Hansen is unfairly mocked for his 'you'll win noting wi'kids' comment, but over the course of football history - he's right. The class of 92 was an exceptional group. His reasoning for saying it was sound then and it stands today: young players are inconsistent by nature because they're still learning the game. On top of that, as we've seen with many young players, when they first get in they can look amazing because they're running on adrenaline and that pumps them through games. But it can't last forever. So almost every young player has dips, which you hope over time become less frequent. As fans, the sensible thing to do is support and be patient, but sadly there are plenty who can't be bothered with that.
And then we have Norf's main point: money. Fine, go on Twitter and tell Northern that Lumley is not good enough. My answer would be, at this point: so what? He is the best we have and there is no money.I actually think he is/will be good enough, but at this stage that point is pretty irrelevant. As a club we have to do what we haven't done for a long time: work hard to find good players on cheaper wages, and encourage and make use of the younger players and develop them into first team players. The sooner people get used to that, the sooner they'll be less disappointed and maybe learn to enjoy what we might be starting to do as a club. Winning is paramount of course, but sometimes a successful season doesn't mean promotion. |  |
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| No accounting for success - Preview on 14:52 - Feb 19 with 842 views | stevec |
| No accounting for success - Preview on 14:11 - Feb 19 by Antti_Heinola |
Broadly, fans are idiots (I include myself in this). The abuse Les used to get was diabolical - exactly the same 'lazy' comments as Eze gets now. It's always been the same. Only now those same fans have an outlet on social media to be really nasty.
Clive's spot on in this article as usual. We all love young players coming through, but with that, you need patience. Alan Hansen is unfairly mocked for his 'you'll win noting wi'kids' comment, but over the course of football history - he's right. The class of 92 was an exceptional group. His reasoning for saying it was sound then and it stands today: young players are inconsistent by nature because they're still learning the game. On top of that, as we've seen with many young players, when they first get in they can look amazing because they're running on adrenaline and that pumps them through games. But it can't last forever. So almost every young player has dips, which you hope over time become less frequent. As fans, the sensible thing to do is support and be patient, but sadly there are plenty who can't be bothered with that.
And then we have Norf's main point: money. Fine, go on Twitter and tell Northern that Lumley is not good enough. My answer would be, at this point: so what? He is the best we have and there is no money.I actually think he is/will be good enough, but at this stage that point is pretty irrelevant. As a club we have to do what we haven't done for a long time: work hard to find good players on cheaper wages, and encourage and make use of the younger players and develop them into first team players. The sooner people get used to that, the sooner they'll be less disappointed and maybe learn to enjoy what we might be starting to do as a club. Winning is paramount of course, but sometimes a successful season doesn't mean promotion. |
I wouldn't be surprised if this FFP malarkey gets largely scrapped pretty soon.
They seem to be dragging the Birmingham saga on as late into the season as possible, and the announcement of Shaun Harvey's imminent departure whiffs of a change of direction.
Now's the perfect time for club owners to get a grip on the EFL. |  | | |
| No accounting for success - Preview on 16:12 - Feb 19 with 712 views | PinnerPaul |
| No accounting for success - Preview on 13:42 - Feb 19 by Northernr |
Club haven't helped on that front with Eze. Ridiculous levels of hype. I know we're fattening a pig for market but come on guys, let the kid find his way. |
TBF there were some on here as well.
Talk of telling Tottenham to f** off if they 'only' offered £20M for example!
Of course the 'Look at the players on loan are doing' brigade forget the one bleeding obvious thing - they are playing at a level or two lower.
Wonderful strikes from Chair (who I like as a player btw) on the video, but were the oppo told not to tackle or something - the amount of touches he was allowed in the penalty area for one shot was ridiculous. | | | |
| No accounting for success - Preview on 23:15 - Feb 19 with 395 views | SydneyRs |
| No accounting for success - Preview on 14:11 - Feb 19 by Antti_Heinola |
Broadly, fans are idiots (I include myself in this). The abuse Les used to get was diabolical - exactly the same 'lazy' comments as Eze gets now. It's always been the same. Only now those same fans have an outlet on social media to be really nasty.
Clive's spot on in this article as usual. We all love young players coming through, but with that, you need patience. Alan Hansen is unfairly mocked for his 'you'll win noting wi'kids' comment, but over the course of football history - he's right. The class of 92 was an exceptional group. His reasoning for saying it was sound then and it stands today: young players are inconsistent by nature because they're still learning the game. On top of that, as we've seen with many young players, when they first get in they can look amazing because they're running on adrenaline and that pumps them through games. But it can't last forever. So almost every young player has dips, which you hope over time become less frequent. As fans, the sensible thing to do is support and be patient, but sadly there are plenty who can't be bothered with that.
And then we have Norf's main point: money. Fine, go on Twitter and tell Northern that Lumley is not good enough. My answer would be, at this point: so what? He is the best we have and there is no money.I actually think he is/will be good enough, but at this stage that point is pretty irrelevant. As a club we have to do what we haven't done for a long time: work hard to find good players on cheaper wages, and encourage and make use of the younger players and develop them into first team players. The sooner people get used to that, the sooner they'll be less disappointed and maybe learn to enjoy what we might be starting to do as a club. Winning is paramount of course, but sometimes a successful season doesn't mean promotion. |
I recall back in the 90s loudly slating Les for having a poor game. At half time the bloke in front stood up, the spit of Les and about 25 years older, obviously his dad. I kept quiet after that and pretty sure Les scored the winner in the second half.
Other players who got slated and are now fondly remembered:
David Bardsley used to get dogs abuse in his early days.
Paul Furlong.
Simon Barker.
Martin Allen.
Any many more.
Difference then was you left the ground and that was the end of it. Social media allows morons to continue 24/7. | | | |
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| No accounting for success - Preview on 00:33 - Feb 20 with 369 views | numptydumpty |
| No accounting for success - Preview on 23:15 - Feb 19 by SydneyRs |
I recall back in the 90s loudly slating Les for having a poor game. At half time the bloke in front stood up, the spit of Les and about 25 years older, obviously his dad. I kept quiet after that and pretty sure Les scored the winner in the second half.
Other players who got slated and are now fondly remembered:
David Bardsley used to get dogs abuse in his early days.
Paul Furlong.
Simon Barker.
Martin Allen.
Any many more.
Difference then was you left the ground and that was the end of it. Social media allows morons to continue 24/7. |
Yep simon barker dave bardsley and les all got shedloads of stick.
And you right some people forget all this and look back fondly on a player
Bobby Zamora was not exactly a favourite back in the day but one ultimate moment erased all the bad
Eze is young - no doubt - he is definitely not the full packet yet but agree his hype was almost Ronaldo - esque and there is definitely sadly a tinge of racism in the abuse by some
Lynch has always been error prone - Lumley has lost his confidence .
BOS always looks lively to me and surprised he rarely gets a start. Was surprised Hall wasn't playing tonight.
Wells confidence has gone recently and we have also due to players not performing - changed our way of playing and hit a dead end
Conceding goals in last minute is not bad luck - we are knackered and for some strange reason when we could not bring anyone in - got rid of Sylla permanently and loaned out eight players at least three or four who could have had quite a significant part to play due to injuries and loss of form.
I think I preferred it when Olly brought the younger players on here towards the second half of the season.
Our best players are players that we don't own and will not be here next season.
Our fringe players who need experience are getting it elsewhere - not sure myself why Oteh, Smyth, Chair were loaned out and to be fair not sure why he recalled Manning - he not got a sniff here even when we consistently losing xperiencing injuries.
All I can say is sometimes supporting QPR is fricking painful !!!!!! |  |
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| No accounting for success - Preview on 00:50 - Feb 20 with 366 views | numptydumpty |
But yes understand the balance sheet scenario - bit of luck we had such a good run earlier as relegation still very unlikely.
FFP seems bizarrely unfiar when there is so much money in football
Sadly our club has been made an example of which will impact us for the next couple of seasons also.
But rules were rules - I not agreeing with the fans picking out certain players - uts the owners that have stuffed up - to be honest ever since fernandes took over its been one scenario followed by another - they knew they were breaking the rules and us as fans of QPR are the ones that are affected.
The managers are not on an even playing field with fellow championship clubs and change for changes sake will make no odds - be it the players or the coaches
Its the owners that need to take the blame - on their watch we broke the rules - that's why we are seeing on the pitch what we see...
We have actually done well to still remain a championship club and despite horrendous recent form - I cannot see a relegation
There are fortunately some truly awful teams in this league.
The rest of this season is completely pointless. Its hard to get excited about it currently but I think we must just be thankful that we will not be in League one next season otherwise we could have seen a demise a la portsomuth all the way down to league 2....
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