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At least the tide is starting to turn and questions are being asked. The more questions asked the greater the momentum to bust the myth. Ultimately people like Samuel will shut up to save their own skins.
One of them mentioned the Redknapp history with clubs having problems after his departure, but in the main, the others were sitting on the fence over his culpability.
One of them mentioned the Redknapp history with clubs having problems after his departure, but in the main, the others were sitting on the fence over his culpability.
While I think HR should take his share of blame (not defending him I think he is as dodgy as they come) it is still the owner's that should take the lions share of blame. They all buy into this myth that he is a great manager.
While I think HR should take his share of blame (not defending him I think he is as dodgy as they come) it is still the owner's that should take the lions share of blame. They all buy into this myth that he is a great manager.
How dare you! He's not only a great manager but an outstanding cook, web-designer and entrepreneur.
I nearly puked in my lap when that came on the TV last night.
Edit: I recommend hiding this thread if you have a family history of spontaneous combustion.
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'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!'
While I think HR should take his share of blame (not defending him I think he is as dodgy as they come) it is still the owner's that should take the lions share of blame. They all buy into this myth that he is a great manager.
have to agree to some extent; he goes from club to club like some highly contagious virus and yet chairmen fall for the bullshite and give him a blank cheque book to do as he pleases.
how the loathsome creature has not only managed to do that to several clubs who are all owned by presumably shrewd business people; feck it all up & then still carry on as a media darling is beyond my basic levels of comprehension.
have to agree to some extent; he goes from club to club like some highly contagious virus and yet chairmen fall for the bullshite and give him a blank cheque book to do as he pleases.
how the loathsome creature has not only managed to do that to several clubs who are all owned by presumably shrewd business people; feck it all up & then still carry on as a media darling is beyond my basic levels of comprehension.
I don't think it was just Redknapp that did for us as the rot had already started with Hughes wasting money so Harry would have a bit of justification in saying our financial woes were not all down to him.
Redknapp has weedled his way into a media darling by behaving like a celebrity which seems to be the key to public acceptance in this country. For reasons I have never been able to fathom you have ordinary people on modest incomes fawning over celebrities who are paid fortunes for doing very little like reading autocues etc. Just watch stuff like Graham Norton where the audience seem captivated by a sofa of celebrities and everything they say seems to be greeted with audience laughter as if these actors are all comedians.
I am convinced Trump only became President because the Americans voted for celebrity and I also have the view that if Labour replaced Corbyn with Redknapp, they would win the next election. People would just vote for the loveable rogue celebrity as all common sense seems to evaporate from the public when they see a celeb.
I don't think it was just Redknapp that did for us as the rot had already started with Hughes wasting money so Harry would have a bit of justification in saying our financial woes were not all down to him.
Redknapp has weedled his way into a media darling by behaving like a celebrity which seems to be the key to public acceptance in this country. For reasons I have never been able to fathom you have ordinary people on modest incomes fawning over celebrities who are paid fortunes for doing very little like reading autocues etc. Just watch stuff like Graham Norton where the audience seem captivated by a sofa of celebrities and everything they say seems to be greeted with audience laughter as if these actors are all comedians.
I am convinced Trump only became President because the Americans voted for celebrity and I also have the view that if Labour replaced Corbyn with Redknapp, they would win the next election. People would just vote for the loveable rogue celebrity as all common sense seems to evaporate from the public when they see a celeb.
Oh Lord, don't even joke about it.
'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!'
I don't think it was just Redknapp that did for us as the rot had already started with Hughes wasting money so Harry would have a bit of justification in saying our financial woes were not all down to him.
Redknapp has weedled his way into a media darling by behaving like a celebrity which seems to be the key to public acceptance in this country. For reasons I have never been able to fathom you have ordinary people on modest incomes fawning over celebrities who are paid fortunes for doing very little like reading autocues etc. Just watch stuff like Graham Norton where the audience seem captivated by a sofa of celebrities and everything they say seems to be greeted with audience laughter as if these actors are all comedians.
I am convinced Trump only became President because the Americans voted for celebrity and I also have the view that if Labour replaced Corbyn with Redknapp, they would win the next election. People would just vote for the loveable rogue celebrity as all common sense seems to evaporate from the public when they see a celeb.
The "rot" started when TF decided to get rid of NW... everything after that is just the aftermath of a spectacularly destructive brainfart.
Unfortunately he listened too much to the keyboard warriors who wanted Colin out from the safety of their bedrooms.
Was always a strange one how Warnock left. I mean although results hadn't been brilliant, we weren't in the bottom three.
I was at the MK Dons Cup game, his last one, and I don't recall any 'Warnock Out' chants from the away fans. I assume he left more due to dressing room politics, or even possibly one of the board sticking their oar in.
Happy to be enlightened if anyone out there knows what really happened.
Was always a strange one how Warnock left. I mean although results hadn't been brilliant, we weren't in the bottom three.
I was at the MK Dons Cup game, his last one, and I don't recall any 'Warnock Out' chants from the away fans. I assume he left more due to dressing room politics, or even possibly one of the board sticking their oar in.
Happy to be enlightened if anyone out there knows what really happened.
I think that the prevailing theory is that Tony was absolutely star struck at the time with the Premier League riches, superstars and associated fame, and had the cult of personality that was Joey Barton in one ear telling him how bad Warnock was and Kia Joorabchian in the other offering him Premier League stalwart Mark Hughes...
Was always a strange one how Warnock left. I mean although results hadn't been brilliant, we weren't in the bottom three.
I was at the MK Dons Cup game, his last one, and I don't recall any 'Warnock Out' chants from the away fans. I assume he left more due to dressing room politics, or even possibly one of the board sticking their oar in.
Happy to be enlightened if anyone out there knows what really happened.
I do recall us singing "you don't know what you're doing " as well as joining in with the MK Dons fans in a rendition of "Premier league, you're having a laugh ".
The "rot" started when TF decided to get rid of NW... everything after that is just the aftermath of a spectacularly destructive brainfart.
for me it all started with the boardroom gun incident in 2005, that got rid of a lot of QPR people at the club, the culture changed massively and we became a club obsessed with signing players. We'd sign a new squad every transfer window even when we were skint, when Flavio and co came in it got far worse and the squad got bigger every year. Even when we went up under Warnock we had too many players for a 25 man squad and had the same issue a year later under Hughes with Ephraim and Tommy Smith having to left in limbo.
We became a club that was ripe for con men to come in and make money out of us and is why he likes of Hughes and Redknapp were interested to begin with.
Redknapp us just a symptom of the bigger problems the club had, an easy scapegoat to blame it all on but what we did under Redknapp was no different to what we were doing under John Gregory, Di Canio and Jim Magilton signing player after player and if it doesn't work sign a few more. Redknapp just had more money to play with. Warnock wasn't hugely different he just had a better eye for players than the others the year we went up
Was always a strange one how Warnock left. I mean although results hadn't been brilliant, we weren't in the bottom three.
I was at the MK Dons Cup game, his last one, and I don't recall any 'Warnock Out' chants from the away fans. I assume he left more due to dressing room politics, or even possibly one of the board sticking their oar in.
Happy to be enlightened if anyone out there knows what really happened.
Plenty of QPR fans were calling for him to go at the time, he got slated for performances against Man Utd and Liverpool when we didn't lay a glove on them and then got stick for the Norwich home defeat just before the mk dons game. Looking back of course it was daft to sack him but plenty wanted him gone at the time and were singing you don't know what your doing to hi at mk dons
Bloke I know works at SKY, reckons that before they started filming on Sunday, Martin Samuel threatened to kill anyone who said anything bad about Redknapp. He said he had a shooter in his motor and that he would rather do a stretch than see Redknapp traduced on national telly. Jonathan Liew said he thought that was overstepping the mark and Samuel just went for him with a chair, a boom mic and a cosh he had secreted in his pants. None of the others stepped in to help because everyone in the game knows that Samuel is West Ham and therefore a close personal friend of the Krays.
I do recall us singing "you don't know what you're doing " as well as joining in with the MK Dons fans in a rendition of "Premier league, you're having a laugh ".
Bloke I know works at SKY, reckons that before they started filming on Sunday, Martin Samuel threatened to kill anyone who said anything bad about Redknapp. He said he had a shooter in his motor and that he would rather do a stretch than see Redknapp traduced on national telly. Jonathan Liew said he thought that was overstepping the mark and Samuel just went for him with a chair, a boom mic and a cosh he had secreted in his pants. None of the others stepped in to help because everyone in the game knows that Samuel is West Ham and therefore a close personal friend of the Krays.
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Used to stand on the Chicken Run innit? You'll never meet a West Ham fan who didn't used to stand on the Chicken Run. Not sure why they ever needed to leave Upton Park when that stand clearly had a capacity of about 750,000 people.
Used to stand on the Chicken Run innit? You'll never meet a West Ham fan who didn't used to stand on the Chicken Run. Not sure why they ever needed to leave Upton Park when that stand clearly had a capacity of about 750,000 people.
It's the West Ham law that everyone stood in the Chicken Run, drank in the Blind Beggar and boxed for Repton.
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