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How the other half live 13:28 - Apr 24 with 1740 viewsQPRSteve

£85,000 a year four four hours 'work' a week

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-47884273
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How the other half live on 14:06 - Apr 24 with 1639 viewsswisscottage

Jeez. How is this even a story?

The company was once loaned money by a dodgy company ( since paid back).
MP brought on board as a consultant after said loan was paid back.

MP paid £350 per hour for consultancy.

Yes .. nice work if you can get it, but for balance sake, how about looking at consultancy rates, director rates etc for other MPs.

If you want to slag MPS for do any such thing then that's fine .. then take to task every MP that gets paid for after dinner speaches, and odd bits of conslutancy or non-executive directorships.

Singling out one MP, who hasn't actually broken any rules as far as I can see, is a bit ridiculous, but I guess that's what makes the news these days.
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How the other half live on 16:49 - Apr 24 with 1402 viewscolinallcars

How the other half live on 14:06 - Apr 24 by swisscottage

Jeez. How is this even a story?

The company was once loaned money by a dodgy company ( since paid back).
MP brought on board as a consultant after said loan was paid back.

MP paid £350 per hour for consultancy.

Yes .. nice work if you can get it, but for balance sake, how about looking at consultancy rates, director rates etc for other MPs.

If you want to slag MPS for do any such thing then that's fine .. then take to task every MP that gets paid for after dinner speaches, and odd bits of conslutancy or non-executive directorships.

Singling out one MP, who hasn't actually broken any rules as far as I can see, is a bit ridiculous, but I guess that's what makes the news these days.


Well, you can only criticize MPs that you know are coining it in when the news emerges. Not all MPs are in the money like this.....many are just basic constituancy MPs.

MPs have never been held in such low regard as they are now. Is it too much to hope that a new, less grasping set of individuals will come to the the fore ?
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How the other half live on 17:00 - Apr 24 with 1382 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Ban private Income for elected individuals.

How can he possibly vote on financial regulation with this huge conflict of interest looming over him. It's probably only a problem because there is discrepancy with his declaration of interests.

Not the only one mind. Plenty of Labour at it to.
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How the other half live on 17:22 - Apr 24 with 1334 viewsEastR

How the other half live on 14:06 - Apr 24 by swisscottage

Jeez. How is this even a story?

The company was once loaned money by a dodgy company ( since paid back).
MP brought on board as a consultant after said loan was paid back.

MP paid £350 per hour for consultancy.

Yes .. nice work if you can get it, but for balance sake, how about looking at consultancy rates, director rates etc for other MPs.

If you want to slag MPS for do any such thing then that's fine .. then take to task every MP that gets paid for after dinner speaches, and odd bits of conslutancy or non-executive directorships.

Singling out one MP, who hasn't actually broken any rules as far as I can see, is a bit ridiculous, but I guess that's what makes the news these days.


He's only being singled out and its news because its his turn today. There have been plenty before (from all political parties) and there continue to be more until they change the rules. But sadly that's in their own hands and the gravy train will roll on.
Ask yourself this question: how may of them would command the level of fees if they were not seen to be open to be paid for influence?
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How the other half live on 19:01 - Apr 24 with 1231 viewsHunterhoop

How the other half live on 17:00 - Apr 24 by BazzaInTheLoft

Ban private Income for elected individuals.

How can he possibly vote on financial regulation with this huge conflict of interest looming over him. It's probably only a problem because there is discrepancy with his declaration of interests.

Not the only one mind. Plenty of Labour at it to.


Completely agree with you, Baz. It’s ridiculous that you can have a private income as an elected member of Parliament.

However, to attract the best and brightest, which we all surely want, in order to manage the country and represent constituents well, you have to pay salaries in line with top private and public sector roles, which means a significant amount more than £75k.

It be impossible to sell to the general public, but i’d rather MPs were paid £250k p.a with no private income than the current set up.
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How the other half live on 20:06 - Apr 24 with 1163 viewsCiderwithRsie

How the other half live on 19:01 - Apr 24 by Hunterhoop

Completely agree with you, Baz. It’s ridiculous that you can have a private income as an elected member of Parliament.

However, to attract the best and brightest, which we all surely want, in order to manage the country and represent constituents well, you have to pay salaries in line with top private and public sector roles, which means a significant amount more than £75k.

It be impossible to sell to the general public, but i’d rather MPs were paid £250k p.a with no private income than the current set up.


In principle I agree, but in any job pay isn't the only attraction and I'd be a bit dubious about any MP who felt that way. (I'd feel the same about a nurse who said "saving lives is great but unless I get £100k I can't be arsed")

There's a lot of prestige in being an MP, there's the chance to serve your country, change the world and so on. The circular problem is that so long as everyone slags them off those things don't count for so much, so you pay more, they look more mercenary and round we go again.

You do need to make sure that high achievers in other fields won't do it because they'd have to downgrade their lifestyle.
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How the other half live on 21:27 - Apr 24 with 1043 viewssmegma

How the other half live on 14:06 - Apr 24 by swisscottage

Jeez. How is this even a story?

The company was once loaned money by a dodgy company ( since paid back).
MP brought on board as a consultant after said loan was paid back.

MP paid £350 per hour for consultancy.

Yes .. nice work if you can get it, but for balance sake, how about looking at consultancy rates, director rates etc for other MPs.

If you want to slag MPS for do any such thing then that's fine .. then take to task every MP that gets paid for after dinner speaches, and odd bits of conslutancy or non-executive directorships.

Singling out one MP, who hasn't actually broken any rules as far as I can see, is a bit ridiculous, but I guess that's what makes the news these days.


So he's either your mate or a fellow Tory.

Or both.
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How the other half live on 21:49 - Apr 24 with 1013 viewsHunterhoop

How the other half live on 20:06 - Apr 24 by CiderwithRsie

In principle I agree, but in any job pay isn't the only attraction and I'd be a bit dubious about any MP who felt that way. (I'd feel the same about a nurse who said "saving lives is great but unless I get £100k I can't be arsed")

There's a lot of prestige in being an MP, there's the chance to serve your country, change the world and so on. The circular problem is that so long as everyone slags them off those things don't count for so much, so you pay more, they look more mercenary and round we go again.

You do need to make sure that high achievers in other fields won't do it because they'd have to downgrade their lifestyle.


I get that you don’t want MPs to be purely money motivated. That’s fair enough.

But it’s a tough job, with very mixed job security, incredibly long hours, enormous amounts of personal abuse, and your life and family in the private eye.

The salary today is way out of step with the job, and it only encourages them all to have other incomes which create vested interests and take their focus away from what it should be.

There’d be far fewer resignations from big posts if they were walking away from ALL their income than just some of it...
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How the other half live on 22:12 - Apr 24 with 977 viewsQPR_Jim

How the other half live on 20:06 - Apr 24 by CiderwithRsie

In principle I agree, but in any job pay isn't the only attraction and I'd be a bit dubious about any MP who felt that way. (I'd feel the same about a nurse who said "saving lives is great but unless I get £100k I can't be arsed")

There's a lot of prestige in being an MP, there's the chance to serve your country, change the world and so on. The circular problem is that so long as everyone slags them off those things don't count for so much, so you pay more, they look more mercenary and round we go again.

You do need to make sure that high achievers in other fields won't do it because they'd have to downgrade their lifestyle.


I tend to agree with Hunter.

The way I see it, put yourself in the position of a highly skilled individual who's looking at possible career options. Do they get into politics and get loads of abuse online and get paid less than their peers. Or do you take the CEO job somewhere get paid 2 or 3x the wages and have none of the hassle?

In my book the current system encourages the clever ones down the second route.
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How the other half live on 22:12 - Apr 24 with 976 viewsdistortR

performance related pay for m.p's.

Would save the country a fortune.
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How the other half live on 22:21 - Apr 24 with 963 viewssmegma

How the other half live on 22:12 - Apr 24 by distortR

performance related pay for m.p's.

Would save the country a fortune.


Diane Abbott would earn twelvety quid.
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How the other half live on 22:30 - Apr 24 with 944 viewsShotKneesHoop

How the other half live on 22:21 - Apr 24 by smegma

Diane Abbott would earn twelvety quid.


I'd like to see her count the loose change. That would drive anyone to drink.

Why does it feel like R'SWiPe is still on the books? Yer Couldn't Make It Up.Well Done Me!

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How the other half live on 06:42 - Apr 25 with 833 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

How the other half live on 19:01 - Apr 24 by Hunterhoop

Completely agree with you, Baz. It’s ridiculous that you can have a private income as an elected member of Parliament.

However, to attract the best and brightest, which we all surely want, in order to manage the country and represent constituents well, you have to pay salaries in line with top private and public sector roles, which means a significant amount more than £75k.

It be impossible to sell to the general public, but i’d rather MPs were paid £250k p.a with no private income than the current set up.


Plenty of quality people do jobs for peanuts when there are better jobs for more out there.

Most nurses do a fantastic job even though they could get paid more and have better hours at Wetherspoons.

Being an MP needs to be a vocation like teaching not a money spinner.

But yeah I agree in principle about the better pay. I’d rather we pay them more in exchange for tighter regulation and a overhaul of the expenses system, and tougher penalties for ‘irregularities’ like Mercer’s.
[Post edited 25 Apr 7:34]
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How the other half live on 07:38 - Apr 25 with 780 viewsLblock

Is this even a debate still?
I thought everyone had agreed all politics is bollox and all politicians are bent, corrupt and evil?

I can’t be arsed with any of it anymore
Its all just noise to me now

Here for a good time..... not a long time

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How the other half live on 07:43 - Apr 25 with 771 viewsHunterhoop

How the other half live on 06:42 - Apr 25 by BazzaInTheLoft

Plenty of quality people do jobs for peanuts when there are better jobs for more out there.

Most nurses do a fantastic job even though they could get paid more and have better hours at Wetherspoons.

Being an MP needs to be a vocation like teaching not a money spinner.

But yeah I agree in principle about the better pay. I’d rather we pay them more in exchange for tighter regulation and a overhaul of the expenses system, and tougher penalties for ‘irregularities’ like Mercer’s.
[Post edited 25 Apr 7:34]


It does need to be a vocation but it also needs to attract the best for the benefit of the country.

At the minute we have some remarkably incompetent people in there, all earning from other endeavours and not focussing their time properly, many of whom started because it was a vocation but the lure of a better standard of living and looking after themselves and family took over. Just solve that problem rather than hoping people resist such temptation.

Running the country and representing your constituents is a really important role in society. It should be considered a career pinnacle...it should be rewarded as such for appropriate balance.
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How the other half live on 08:10 - Apr 25 with 750 viewsswisscottage

How the other half live on 21:27 - Apr 24 by smegma

So he's either your mate or a fellow Tory.

Or both.


Said like someone with a chip on their shoulder.

The point isn't whether he's a tory or not, the point is that under the current rules he's done nothing wrong. Morally however, only he knows what his motives are, in that on the face of it the organisation he's consulting for does good works. Bear in mind he's not consulting for LCF or Siege.

Yes the rules need to change, but the vilification of one individual smacks of hypocrisy and double standards. MPs on the whole need to be taken to task with a publication of all MPs non-executive directorships, and private funding. Other MPs calling for him to resign need to take a good look at themselves and the institution as a whole.

If you remove secondary incomes from MPs, then you need to considerably increase MP salaries. The job they are asked to do with the level of responsibility and accountability, not to mention public scrutiny and invasion of their privacy makes their salary a joke.

Perhaps the reason why an ever increasing proportion of MPS are not worth the air they breath is the fact that the job does not attract people of a high enough calibre anymore, so that those that do get in are either not up to the task, or are in it for power, influence and what they can get out of it.
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