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After a bit of a hiatus from away games last year owing to work circumstances I’ve managed to get to every one this season so far.
I’ve noticed the numbers are up and the atmosphere is buzzing a lot more than it did the season before last. More kids and women too. Never thought I’d see a family including three U10s at the Den.
Fair play everyone. I think it helps the players too.
The thing with us is “if” we start decent or the club is on its knees( 2001) then we turn up , we do have a large base of fans The last few years have been awful and it was enough to put anyone off , the appointment of Mclaren was the last straw for some especially the 7-1 against WBA We now go into games with hugill, wells, Eze , chair, Bos up top and we are going for it , what’s not to like
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
The thing with us is “if” we start decent or the club is on its knees( 2001) then we turn up , we do have a large base of fans The last few years have been awful and it was enough to put anyone off , the appointment of Mclaren was the last straw for some especially the 7-1 against WBA We now go into games with hugill, wells, Eze , chair, Bos up top and we are going for it , what’s not to like
Anyone who was around to see the training ground closed because we didn’t pay the rent or the potential merger with Fulham would never say McClaren was the last straw surely?
Anyone who was around to see the training ground closed because we didn’t pay the rent or the potential merger with Fulham would never say McClaren was the last straw surely?
Yes but at least it was an us and them mentality with the fans and paladini also everyone was behind Gregory as he had both hands tied behind his back and was one of us Mclaren slimed his way in behind Holloway’s back and it was turgid , yeah we had a good couple of months but some of the football from January onwards was terrible from a terrible manager ( sorry I know you liked him )
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
Yes but at least it was an us and them mentality with the fans and paladini also everyone was behind Gregory as he had both hands tied behind his back and was one of us Mclaren slimed his way in behind Holloway’s back and it was turgid , yeah we had a good couple of months but some of the football from January onwards was terrible from a terrible manager ( sorry I know you liked him )
Football we are playing right now is probably better IMO than anything we've played since Venables. Different style from Venables' teams, but the first time since then that we've played controlled football, and were actually going out to win rather than not lose.
I don't think this squad would be out of place in the Prem, maybe with one or two strategic additions. And whlist I understand the reluctance of some of our fans to have anything to do with the Prem, I'd be happy with even one season up there if it meant we didn't have to contemplate selling the likes of Eze, Chair and Manning. Building a team for the long term with players like these would be just fantastic for our club and its future I reckon.
Yes but at least it was an us and them mentality with the fans and paladini also everyone was behind Gregory as he had both hands tied behind his back and was one of us Mclaren slimed his way in behind Holloway’s back and it was turgid , yeah we had a good couple of months but some of the football from January onwards was terrible from a terrible manager ( sorry I know you liked him )
Players, managers, and form comes and goes is my point. If you are going to jack it in because we play shift football or getting tonked then you aren’t getting the full supporter experience.
As for McClaren I was no fan but just wanted the sack roundabout to come to an end. Let’s be honest, a run on bad form from Warburton and he’ll go the same way.
Players, managers, and form comes and goes is my point. If you are going to jack it in because we play shift football or getting tonked then you aren’t getting the full supporter experience.
As for McClaren I was no fan but just wanted the sack roundabout to come to an end. Let’s be honest, a run on bad form from Warburton and he’ll go the same way.
Warburton would need to match McClaren's appalling three month run to be under threat and even then he'd have credit in the bank because he didn't give us our worst ever start to a season like McClaren did.
I can't think of a QPR manager who deserved the sack as much as he did.
Warburton would need to match McClaren's appalling three month run to be under threat and even then he'd have credit in the bank because he didn't give us our worst ever start to a season like McClaren did.
I can't think of a QPR manager who deserved the sack as much as he did.
Should of gone after the 7-1 not one player improved under him
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
Warburton would need to match McClaren's appalling three month run to be under threat and even then he'd have credit in the bank because he didn't give us our worst ever start to a season like McClaren did.
I can't think of a QPR manager who deserved the sack as much as he did.
"I can't think of a QPR manager who deserved the sack as much as he did."
That reminds me of the bit in Fawlty Towers where someone says it's the worst hotel in England and the Major loyally says "No!! I won't have that said! There's a place down in Eastbourne...."
P Hart A Mullery S Burkenshaw H Redknapp (who didn't even get the sack, the weasel) M Hughes R Harford
...all in the running IMO. Maybe we should have a poll.
It is strange though that we had 7 players yesterday who were here last season playing a 5-3-2 that MacLaren had such a nightmare trying to implement. Shows it must be coaching and trusting the Manager.
Warburton would need to match McClaren's appalling three month run to be under threat and even then he'd have credit in the bank because he didn't give us our worst ever start to a season like McClaren did.
I can't think of a QPR manager who deserved the sack as much as he did.
Why bother to comment if you aren't going to read what I said properly?
For what it's worth there are about 30 managers wit worse record than McClaren including Holloway, Francis (2nd time), De Sousa, Gregory, and JFH.
Again though, my point is that it's childish to throw the towel in over the record of any manager.
My actual point was and still is if you jacked it in because of the football or results under McClaren, Holloway, Harford, JFH or WHOEVER, but didn't jack it in after Vauxhall Motors, the training ground closure, the merger, then you are probable being a bit disingenuous as to why you are jacking it in.
Remember laughing at this? Our six-fingered 'friends' bottom line for season-ticket-holding father and son throwing in ST's at Bryan Gunn after 38 minutes of only one match August 2009 Norwich 1 Colchester 7 "Norwich City lost 7-1 at home to Colchester in their opening fixture in League One. It was the heaviest home defeat in the club’s 107-year history. After Colchester had gone 4-0 up, a couple of disgusted Norwich fans ran onto the pitch and threw their season tickets in Gunn’s direction. And who can blame them?"
'I'm 18 with a bullet.Got my finger on the trigger,I'm gonna pull it.."
Love,Peace and Fook Chelski!
More like 20StoneOfHoop now.
Let's face it I'm not getting any thinner.
Pass the cake and pies please.
Remember laughing at this? Our six-fingered 'friends' bottom line for season-ticket-holding father and son throwing in ST's at Bryan Gunn after 38 minutes of only one match August 2009 Norwich 1 Colchester 7 "Norwich City lost 7-1 at home to Colchester in their opening fixture in League One. It was the heaviest home defeat in the club’s 107-year history. After Colchester had gone 4-0 up, a couple of disgusted Norwich fans ran onto the pitch and threw their season tickets in Gunn’s direction. And who can blame them?"
It is strange though that we had 7 players yesterday who were here last season playing a 5-3-2 that MacLaren had such a nightmare trying to implement. Shows it must be coaching and trusting the Manager.
Different rb, lb, cb, mid, fwd. 5 positions where players weren't here or were out on loan. Kane, Barbet, Manning, Chair, Hugill. Add to that Lumley's distributon has improved, Eze is much more effective as a team player (not a criticism but praise), Hall missed most of last season and Wells is benefiting from having Hugill as a partner and the service from the others. A much stronger squad, all seemingly comfortable on the ball.
So better recruitment, superior organisation, increased internal competition, more effective management.
Having a team whereby you genuinely believe you have half a chance of either winning or at least getting a point when playing away from home makes a massive difference.
Living where I do I have spent most of the last 15 seasons or so seeing most of my games away from home. My 2 daughters have been away loads of times but to very few home games by comparison. Those scars heal slowly...
Cant tell you how much I enjoyed Sheff Weds away (having never seen us win there). Really looking forward to Hull and Leeds in the coming weeks.
Feet are firmly still on the ground and I don't expect us to finish top 6, but we do seem to be building something good again...
Football we are playing right now is probably better IMO than anything we've played since Venables. Different style from Venables' teams, but the first time since then that we've played controlled football, and were actually going out to win rather than not lose.
I don't think this squad would be out of place in the Prem, maybe with one or two strategic additions. And whlist I understand the reluctance of some of our fans to have anything to do with the Prem, I'd be happy with even one season up there if it meant we didn't have to contemplate selling the likes of Eze, Chair and Manning. Building a team for the long term with players like these would be just fantastic for our club and its future I reckon.
I posted this on another forum in response to a similar post to yours re promotion to the EPL. Going up could be a double edged sword IMO. "I have given this a bit of thought (for a change :D ) and I like the idea of cashing in for a season or two but wrt to keeping our talent I can see a conundrum. Firstly convincing the players to buy into the plan, especially the younger talented ones, who may feel that big money offers are too tempting to turn down in a notoriously precarious and short career. Some of the cashfall would have to be spent on EPL standard contracts and wages to even think about making this feasible and then there would be relegation clauses to be considered. Then there are the fans; No matter how many times the club issued statements that they are intending to compete on a financially stable footing there will still be the morons moaning after every defeat, slagging off the players and the club, demanding new players etc. I really don't have an answer for this but I am certain it is a real consideration. What would you have to offer the players for their loyalty to the club if this scenario played out? As it stands, the players we have all seem willing to work together, fight for every victory and accept that they won't be playing in every game. Would they be able to maintain that desirable platform when the inevitable drubbings are inflicted on them? would the camaraderie be stretched beyond control? If, as some would like, we use the existing situation to build a team that could sustain a challenge in the EPL then we need the background infrastructure to become a reality (Warren Farm & Stadium) to support the work that would need to be done. We also need to look at replacing one or two of the older heads we currently have with similar older heads as needs dictate and then consider how that would affect the existing dynamic; this is one of the areas I feel more comfortable with as the club have show that they, and MW, CAN attract the "right sort" of player here. This post is slightly "stream of consciousness" in it's presentation but in summary, a quick raid of EPL riches for a season or two isn't as straightforward as just getting promoted."
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