| Reshaping Loftus Rd 16:26 - Sep 24 with 4694 views | kingsburyR |
Following on from the thread about the family stand isn't it about time LR was reshaped to improve atmosphere and attract fans back (playing great football has helped).
Lower Loft - Safe Standing
Upper Loft - ST'ers and Members
Paddocks - Family Stands
C Club - Get Rid - or half it at least
Increase Bronze areas
Away end - give both away when possible, when not free tickets to schools, charities, social clubs until full
Surely this makes sense and will tick boxes for everyone (except those already in the Paddocks!) |  |
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| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 16:43 - Sep 24 with 4642 views | DavieQPR |
You are not allowed any form of standing in the top two divisions. |  | | |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 16:47 - Sep 24 with 4628 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
Paddocks is probably too confined for a Family Stand. As is the majority of the stadium. As Dave B was saying they have activity areas in the lower loft for bored kids which you just couldn’t have anywhere else. I like the idea of safe standing in the lower loft but it would most likely mean doing away with the family stand altogether. |  |
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| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 16:53 - Sep 24 with 4610 views | loftboy |
You get wet in the first 4 rows of the paddocks, not ideal for families. |  |
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| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 17:07 - Sep 24 with 4559 views | Dorse |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 16:43 - Sep 24 by DavieQPR |
You are not allowed any form of standing in the top two divisions. |
Not even leaning, slouching or on one leg?! This will not do. |  |
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| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 17:07 - Sep 24 with 4559 views | stowmarketrange |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 16:53 - Sep 24 by loftboy |
You get wet in the first 4 rows of the paddocks, not ideal for families. |
You also get wet in the first 5 or 6 rows of the lower loft,but the club don't care about the fans there.
I know you can seek shelter towards the back of the stand,but that only works if there are seats empty. |  | | |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 17:14 - Sep 24 with 4536 views | daveB |
doubt the club will look to do any of that whilst trying to get the new stadium |  | | |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 19:29 - Sep 24 with 4283 views | Sharpediver |
Can see safe standing being permitted (on a limited, trial basis) within the next few years. Would be great to see it back on the Lower Loft. Notice that our upper tier School End away tickets are £34 for West Brom fans on Saturday. Bit of a rip off. In the Premiership all away tickets are capped at 30 quid, I believe, so not sure how we can justify these prices? If Championshp away tickets were capped at £20 surely this would encourage more fans to travel? |  | | |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 20:16 - Sep 24 with 4183 views | DavieQPR |
Ticket sales are one of the important cashflow earners in the lower divisions. For the Prem it covers their Petty Cash. | | | |
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| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 20:17 - Sep 24 with 4182 views | FredManRave |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 16:43 - Sep 24 by DavieQPR |
You are not allowed any form of standing in the top two divisions. |
"A change in safety guidelines allows clubs to apply to put rail seats in stadiums when all attempts to persuade supporters not to stand have failed.
Wolves added rail seats to Molineux in the summer, while Tottenham installed them in their new stadium".
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/49795407 |  |
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| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 21:02 - Sep 24 with 4086 views | stowmarketrange |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 20:17 - Sep 24 by FredManRave |
"A change in safety guidelines allows clubs to apply to put rail seats in stadiums when all attempts to persuade supporters not to stand have failed.
Wolves added rail seats to Molineux in the summer, while Tottenham installed them in their new stadium".
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/49795407 |
That won’t apply to us in the lower loft.Its hard enough to anyone to wake up in that stand rather than stand up.
And it wouldn’t increase the capacity as you’d only fit in the same amount of seats,or maybe even less if they have to allow for more room to fit them in. | | | |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 23:04 - Sep 24 with 3906 views | Boston |
How far down is the water table in Shepherds Bush? | |
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| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 23:28 - Sep 24 with 3878 views | kensalriser |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 17:07 - Sep 24 by Dorse |
Not even leaning, slouching or on one leg?! This will not do. |
Explains why players in the top two divisions are hitting the deck so often. |  |
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| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 00:42 - Sep 25 with 3827 views | timcocking |
It deeply saddens me, how obvious what is needed to make the atmosphere therefore the club great is completely the opposite of the owners' apparent plan.
They think get rid of the hooligans and the atmosphere and swap them with families will improve the football and make them more money. No, people loved football because of angry men standing and singing in a charged atmosphere. Sitting quietly with women and children and watching Rangers lose at home is no kind of long term strategy for keeping fans. Lee Hoos often appears very condescending to me on issues like this. We know what the fans want and we understand English football and QPR, not Lee Hoos.
I wonder, any mathematicians want to calculate the correlation of us losing more home matches without the home end? Over a hundred years and the moment we remove the home fans from behind the goal, we set a record for the most home defeats ever in a season. Anybody saying that's coincidence clearly missed their lessons on Spearman's Rank Correlation Coefficient. It's starting at about 130-1 and yet Lee Hoos thinks we don't get it!!!
Football didn't get where it is by revolving around kids. We need to attract young fans, of course. But not at the cost of alienating all the men. |  | | |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 10:01 - Sep 25 with 3636 views | JJB |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 16:43 - Sep 24 by DavieQPR |
You are not allowed any form of standing in the top two divisions. |
How come you can at Brentford then? |  |
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| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 17:55 - Sep 25 with 3317 views | derbyhoop |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 19:29 - Sep 24 by Sharpediver |
Can see safe standing being permitted (on a limited, trial basis) within the next few years. Would be great to see it back on the Lower Loft. Notice that our upper tier School End away tickets are £34 for West Brom fans on Saturday. Bit of a rip off. In the Premiership all away tickets are capped at 30 quid, I believe, so not sure how we can justify these prices? If Championshp away tickets were capped at £20 surely this would encourage more fans to travel? |
But considerably less income. PL don't need fans in grounds. They make their money from Sky. [Post edited 26 Sep 2019 14:15]
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| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 14:01 - Sep 26 with 3122 views | smegma |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 16:43 - Sep 24 by DavieQPR |
You are not allowed any form of standing in the top two divisions. |
Tottenhams ground has safe standing in place. The whole of the away section and the lower section in the home end has those rail seats or whatever they're called that are in a lot of German grounds. | | | |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 08:45 - Sep 27 with 2951 views | smegma |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 17:55 - Sep 25 by derbyhoop |
But considerably less income. PL don't need fans in grounds. They make their money from Sky. [Post edited 26 Sep 2019 14:15]
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Urban myth # 348.
Man United are the latest club to think about installing 'safe standing' areas. | | | |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 08:52 - Sep 27 with 2941 views | joe90 |
I'd get rid of the family area. It's a waste of space in my view. Where I sit in Upper Loft there are plenty of young kids who sit with their parents no problem. Also, the family stand often looks empty. Not a good use of space. [Post edited 27 Sep 2019 8:55]
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| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 14:17 - Sep 27 with 2820 views | francisbowles |
| Reshaping Loftus Rd on 08:52 - Sep 27 by joe90 |
I'd get rid of the family area. It's a waste of space in my view. Where I sit in Upper Loft there are plenty of young kids who sit with their parents no problem. Also, the family stand often looks empty. Not a good use of space. [Post edited 27 Sep 2019 8:55]
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I understand the desire to have a family stand and why it is in the lower loft but if is too big for purpose, can't it be divided and give the adults entitled to be in the family section a coloured wristband or something similar, as they enter the stadium. | | | |
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