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Politics...apols (n/t) on 10:43 - Nov 12 by BazzaInTheLoft
‘Sniffing the wind’
A week ago Farage promised to stand candidates in 600 seats.
Nov 3rd was the week before. I dont know anyone who takes an interest who wasnt aware of the offer made to Johnson, . Pundits and the Media all saying that to field 600 candidates would damage Brexit . I would say that is is more than sniffing the wind actually .
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Politics...apols (n/t) on 11:00 - Nov 12 with 1950 views
Politics...apols (n/t) on 10:52 - Nov 12 by essextaxiboy
Nov 3rd was the week before. I dont know anyone who takes an interest who wasnt aware of the offer made to Johnson, . Pundits and the Media all saying that to field 600 candidates would damage Brexit . I would say that is is more than sniffing the wind actually .
I think what you really mean instead of sniffing the wind is anyone who takes Farage on his word is a idiot and deserves to lose tens of thousands of £s.
Nov 3: Farage Offers Deal Nov 3: Johnson Rejects Deal
Nov 5: Farage promises to stand 600 MPs
Nov 9: Farage offered peerage by Johnson
Nov 11: Farage stands down in Labour held seats
I wonder why things suddenly changed two days after Farage was offered a peerage, and the UK is due to nominate their candidate for EU commissioner in two weeks 🤷â€â™‚ï¸
[Post edited 12 Nov 2019 11:05]
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Politics...apols on 11:06 - Nov 12 with 1936 views
Politics...apols (n/t) on 11:00 - Nov 12 by BazzaInTheLoft
I think what you really mean instead of sniffing the wind is anyone who takes Farage on his word is a idiot and deserves to lose tens of thousands of £s.
Nov 3: Farage Offers Deal Nov 3: Johnson Rejects Deal
Nov 5: Farage promises to stand 600 MPs
Nov 9: Farage offered peerage by Johnson
Nov 11: Farage stands down in Labour held seats
I wonder why things suddenly changed two days after Farage was offered a peerage, and the UK is due to nominate their candidate for EU commissioner in two weeks 🤷â€â™‚ï¸
[Post edited 12 Nov 2019 11:05]
You seem to be hung up on sniffing the wind ? If he didnt know their was at least a 50/50 chance of the Brexit Party deciding to reduce candidates then he has not been paying attention . Again ..he is free to campaign and stand as an independent ..
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Politics...apols (n/t) on 12:08 - Nov 12 with 1862 views
Politics...apols (n/t) on 11:55 - Nov 12 by essextaxiboy
You seem to be hung up on sniffing the wind ? If he didnt know their was at least a 50/50 chance of the Brexit Party deciding to reduce candidates then he has not been paying attention . Again ..he is free to campaign and stand as an independent ..
Hey, I think they are both cvnts and I’m not going to shed a tear for a BP candidate losing £10k I’m just trying to point out that this is snakey behaviour from a guy who claims to be a man of the people.
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Politics...apols (n/t) on 12:12 - Nov 12 with 1856 views
Politics...apols (n/t) on 12:08 - Nov 12 by BazzaInTheLoft
Hey, I think they are both cvnts and I’m not going to shed a tear for a BP candidate losing £10k I’m just trying to point out that this is snakey behaviour from a guy who claims to be a man of the people.
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Politics...apols on 14:03 - Nov 12 with 1746 views
Politics...apols (n/t) on 11:00 - Nov 12 by BazzaInTheLoft
I think what you really mean instead of sniffing the wind is anyone who takes Farage on his word is a idiot and deserves to lose tens of thousands of £s.
Nov 3: Farage Offers Deal Nov 3: Johnson Rejects Deal
Nov 5: Farage promises to stand 600 MPs
Nov 9: Farage offered peerage by Johnson
Nov 11: Farage stands down in Labour held seats
I wonder why things suddenly changed two days after Farage was offered a peerage, and the UK is due to nominate their candidate for EU commissioner in two weeks 🤷â€â™‚ï¸
[Post edited 12 Nov 2019 11:05]
A peerage that he turned down.
The reason he stood down some 300 odd ppc`s was due to conversations between the BP and the ERG, also some figures within the cabinet. The outcome of those talks was that Boris would produce a video stating the 2020 deadline of the transition period would not be extented as had previously been suggested by Barnier. Also that he(Boris)would be pushing for a Super Canada + trade deal with no political alignment.
'You didn't know that was wrong, but now you do. If you do it again, I'll know you are doing it on purpose.'
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Politics...apols (n/t) on 14:45 - Nov 12 with 1675 views
Watching this from Ireland, I am bemused by and strangely addicted to British politics these days. Over the past few months my kids often asked "what's the Brexit news today".
I had a good laugh at Farage yesterday. He was addressing a gathering of the faithful in the aftermath of his failure to build bridges with politicians from any other political party.
"We now HAVE a leave alliance, it's just that we've done it unilaterally".
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Politics...apols on 17:21 - Nov 12 with 1489 views
Watching this from Ireland, I am bemused by and strangely addicted to British politics these days. Over the past few months my kids often asked "what's the Brexit news today".
I had a good laugh at Farage yesterday. He was addressing a gathering of the faithful in the aftermath of his failure to build bridges with politicians from any other political party.
"We now HAVE a leave alliance, it's just that we've done it unilaterally".
Watching this from Ireland
Is there any room?
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Politics...apols on 00:10 - Nov 13 with 1268 views
Watching this from Ireland, I am bemused by and strangely addicted to British politics these days. Over the past few months my kids often asked "what's the Brexit news today".
I had a good laugh at Farage yesterday. He was addressing a gathering of the faithful in the aftermath of his failure to build bridges with politicians from any other political party.
"We now HAVE a leave alliance, it's just that we've done it unilaterally".
Given Irish politics is one bunch of centre right grifters switching power every so often with another bunch of centre right grifters this should all feel quite familiar no?
Given Irish politics is one bunch of centre right grifters switching power every so often with another bunch of centre right grifters this should all feel quite familiar no?
I'll rise to the bait.
The big difference between the two is that Irish General Elections are conducted under PR. This inevitably leads to nobody getting an overall majority. This is turn leads to the largest party (always one of the two centre right parties) having to compromise on its manifesto to accomodate it's junior partner(s) to allow for a stable government for the duration of the parliament.
This has influenced and helped deliver the profound social change seen in Ireland in recent decades. There is more co-operation and collaboration between Irish political parties than in the UK, all for the common good. The Irish electorate don't take any prisoners if they feel as though they are being taken for a ride. The majority of us are floating voters, which is reflected in significant swings from one party to another from election to election.
Given how splintered UK political parties are at present, there appear to be several tribes within each of the two main parties. The "broad church" of the Conservative Party appears to losing long established parishioners as it embraces a right wing doctrine. I can't help but speculate whether the two main parties will eventually split up to allow all those different voices to be heard and if so, whether the case to change from First Past the Post to PR to reflect the different views of society within Parliament will become overwhelming.
It really is fascinating to watch this evolve. We live in interesting times.
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