| Good Luck UK 12:13 - Dec 12 with 56110 views | PlanetHonneywood |
For the Eze, not the Pugh!
#votewarburton
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| Good Luck UK on 19:52 - Dec 13 with 2212 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Good Luck UK on 19:41 - Dec 13 by Miss_Terraces |
I'm still more shocked, how the lib Dems only got 11 seats. The only true remain party in England |
It was a poor strategy to not stick to being a second ref party which was a position more people sympathised with and they then fought an awful campaign mostly aimed at putting down Labour when they could have both benefited from the smallest amount of co-operation. Absolutely tragic to see a Tory take Kensington as a result thanks to a Yellow Tory. Also the age old problem of FPTP. |  | | |
| Good Luck UK on 19:58 - Dec 13 with 2200 views | Pommyhoop |
| Good Luck UK on 19:32 - Dec 13 by superstan |
I have to switch stations when O’Brien is on, he loves the sound of his own voice, he is arrogant and condescending, he puts anyone down who doesn’t have the same view as him, bloke is a Bellend. |
Totally agree.
He and Owen Jones are why I'm proud to be.  |  |
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| Good Luck UK on 19:59 - Dec 13 with 2185 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Good Luck UK on 19:58 - Dec 13 by Pommyhoop |
Totally agree.
He and Owen Jones are why I'm proud to be. |
I find it quite bizarre how effective they are at wumming such swathes of the electorate. | | | |
| Good Luck UK on 20:00 - Dec 13 with 2183 views | derbyhoop |
| Good Luck UK on 10:53 - Dec 13 by AnonymousR |
Parties promising revoke or a second vote won 52% of the vote last night - 48% of the vote went to Brexit supporting parties.
Boston is right - this will not 'Get Brexit done'. There are 3 likely scenarios:
1. Pass WA legislation, fail to agree to trade agreements and leave December 2020 with no deal;
2. Pass WA legislation, agree to basic trade deals (Canada -) and leave December 2020 but having given up fishing, service, travel rights, etc.
3. Pass WA legislation, fail to agree trade deals but extend and continue extensions, blaming EU for intransigence over the next 4 years.
It's too early to call which might happen. Many may want 1 but it is fiscally difficult and for BJ to keep his other spending promises, he can't afford not to carry out some of them. 2 is more likely and he doesn't need the ERG to support him. However, managing BRINO through the media will be difficult, especially if he has to make substantial concessions. Number 3 doesn't get Brexit done as he promised and will be even harder to manage reputationally.
The Conservatives own it now and it will be REALLY hard to make it work. |
That seems a reasonably balanced analysis to me.
The Tory victory means that they will Get Brexit Done - in the most literal sense, i..e. BRitain EXITing the EU.
Many of the UK electorate were clearly fed up with the ongoing debate that has lasted 3.5 years.
However, if they think it is all over then people are going to be in for a very rude awakening.
There isn't a trade negotiator in the world that believes the UK and EU can conclude a comprehensive trade agreement in 11 months. Barnier, who will lead the EU side, said as much 2 days ago. The only ways it can be done is if a) both sides settle for a mini "no tariffs, no quotas" deal on a limited range of good, e.g. manufactured items OR b) the UK agrees to abide by all the EU regulations.
The EU might agree to the first as EU trade with the UK is significantly in surplus. But it wouldn't cover agriculture nor services, which make up 80% of the UK economy and where UK has a trade surplus with EU.
The second option wouldn't be politically acceptable.
Whatever happens, the Government's own analyses, state that Brexit will have a big negative impact on the UK economy. Those former Labour supporters will find that his promises on Brexit are likely to go the same way as the 40 hospitals, 50,000 nurses, 20,000 police officers and 200,000 new publicly owned houses. And any downturn is likely to hit the Midlands and North much harder than it hits London and the SE.
I suspect Boris' approval ratings will be through the floor by the end of 2020.
But, if the Tories have issues to face, how much worse is it for Labour? |  |
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| Good Luck UK on 20:19 - Dec 13 with 2128 views | Jigsore |
| Good Luck UK on 19:41 - Dec 13 by Miss_Terraces |
I'm still more shocked, how the lib Dems only got 11 seats. The only true remain party in England |
Swinson was a disaster and i hold her in utter contempt
- along with SNP push for early election that BJ was gagging for
- lead an extraordinarily aggressive campaign promising a full
- compare Corbyn to Johnson as equivalent despite offering a 2nd ref
- personally send about 30 leaflets through my door, mostly dishonest and spurious polls fooling people into thinking they're a close second
- realise revoke A50 is massively unpopular and retreat tail between legs to Labours position
- still target Labour/Con marginals regardless, split the vote and let Tories win, lose her seat in the process. Amazing.
Kensington honestly disgusts me... running an ex-Tory minister in the ultra-marginal grenfell constituency who proceeds to run a smear campaign against the incumbent resulting in a wafer thin Tory majority. congrats |  |
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| Good Luck UK on 20:29 - Dec 13 with 2093 views | Hayesender |
| Good Luck UK on 19:59 - Dec 13 by Watford_Ranger |
I find it quite bizarre how effective they are at wumming such swathes of the electorate. |
That would be the winning swathes of the electorate? |  |
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| Good Luck UK on 20:30 - Dec 13 with 2090 views | Hayesender |
I see the usual rent-a-mob are out and about causing havoc in London.
Tolerant left my arse | |
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| Good Luck UK on 20:32 - Dec 13 with 2084 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Good Luck UK on 20:29 - Dec 13 by Hayesender |
That would be the winning swathes of the electorate? |
Winning? I guess so. Not sure what the prize is. All the more reason not to be wound up. | | | |
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| Good Luck UK on 20:40 - Dec 13 with 2068 views | Miss_Terraces |
| Good Luck UK on 20:29 - Dec 13 by Hayesender |
That would be the winning swathes of the electorate? |
The winners from this election, won't be in swathes but the few | |
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| Good Luck UK on 20:41 - Dec 13 with 2061 views | Hayesender |
| Good Luck UK on 20:32 - Dec 13 by Watford_Ranger |
Winning? I guess so. Not sure what the prize is. All the more reason not to be wound up. |
I'm actually quite calm. Tbh with you, I'm sick to the back teeth of politics and politicians from all sides.
I just wanna get back to discussing important stuff such as cheese and breasts | |
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| Good Luck UK on 20:49 - Dec 13 with 2039 views | Juzzie |
This is copied and pasted from the conservative website. Note, it’s a guarantee. Not a proposal, pledge, or wish list..... a guarantee. Lets see where we are in 4 years time.
Boris Johnson's Guarantee
If there is a majority of Conservative MPs on December 13th, I guarantee I will get our new deal through Parliament. We will get Brexit done in January and unleash the potential of our whole country.
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I guarantee:
Extra funding for the NHS, with 50,000 more nurses and 50 million more GP surgery appointments a year.
20,000 more police and tougher sentencing for criminals.
An Australian-style points-based system to control immigration.
Millions more invested every week in science, schools, apprenticeships and infrastructure while controlling debt.
Reaching Net Zero by 2050 with investment in clean energy solutions and green infrastructure to reduce carbon emissions and pollution.
We will not raise the rate of income tax, VAT or National Insurance. |  | | |
| Good Luck UK on 21:27 - Dec 13 with 1977 views | paulparker |
| Good Luck UK on 19:58 - Dec 13 by Pommyhoop |
Totally agree.
He and Owen Jones are why I'm proud to be. |
Mmmmmmmmmmm Gammon !!!!!! |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Good Luck UK on 21:33 - Dec 13 with 1962 views | Jigsore |
| Good Luck UK on 19:58 - Dec 13 by Pommyhoop |
Totally agree.
He and Owen Jones are why I'm proud to be. |
you're Mark Francois?  | |
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| Good Luck UK on 21:33 - Dec 13 with 1960 views | paulparker |
| Good Luck UK on 20:30 - Dec 13 by Hayesender |
I see the usual rent-a-mob are out and about causing havoc in London.
Tolerant left my arse |
TBF the lazy useless jobless tvvats only protested after there lay in | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Good Luck UK on 21:50 - Dec 13 with 1921 views | Lblock |
| Good Luck UK on 19:41 - Dec 13 by Miss_Terraces |
I'm still more shocked, how the lib Dems only got 11 seats. The only true remain party in England |
Shocking result that what was in effect a second EU referendum ended up in the same result sort of way?
Best of five anyone? |  |
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| Good Luck UK on 22:17 - Dec 13 with 1870 views | connell10 |
| Good Luck UK on 19:07 - Dec 13 by Benny_the_Ball |
If he does raise the personal allowance or the lower national insurance threshold then that will help the poor. However I have a low trust threshold for politicians so I'll believe it when I see it. |
Boris will only be looking after the rich in this country, in 2 years time you will be hard pressed to find any working class Boris voter who will admit they voted for him, I repeat he will not help the poor. |  |
| AND WHEN I DREAM , I DREAM ABOUT YOU AND WHEN I SCREAM I SCREAM ABOUT YOU!!!!! | | Poll: | best number 10 ever? |
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| Good Luck UK on 22:25 - Dec 13 with 1850 views | connell10 |
| Good Luck UK on 20:29 - Dec 13 by Hayesender |
That would be the winning swathes of the electorate? |
Labour where you are mate. | |
| AND WHEN I DREAM , I DREAM ABOUT YOU AND WHEN I SCREAM I SCREAM ABOUT YOU!!!!! | | Poll: | best number 10 ever? |
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| Good Luck UK on 23:14 - Dec 13 with 1780 views | Toast_R |
| Good Luck UK on 20:41 - Dec 13 by Hayesender |
I'm actually quite calm. Tbh with you, I'm sick to the back teeth of politics and politicians from all sides.
I just wanna get back to discussing important stuff such as cheese and breasts |
Jo Swinson's are quite ample. Just an obv. |  | | |
| Good Luck UK on 01:47 - Dec 14 with 1694 views | Boston |
| Good Luck UK on 17:32 - Dec 13 by kensalriser |
More than compensated for by the same sort of person emigrating to the UK, many of them from France, Italy, Spain and so on where it can be much more difficult to start businesses. Of course, they won't be coming in the same numbers any more. |
Half a loaf I suppose... | |
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| Good Luck UK on 05:44 - Dec 14 with 1635 views | SydneyRs |
| Good Luck UK on 12:46 - Dec 13 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Up to $1.34
up Euro1.20 |
Should be up around $2.50 Australian dollars, hasn't been above $2 since before the brexit vote and still at $1.93. And its only at that level because the AUD has tanked a fair bit over the last year or so. [Post edited 14 Dec 2019 5:45]
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| Good Luck UK on 09:16 - Dec 14 with 1526 views | QPR_Nippon |
| Good Luck UK on 21:50 - Dec 13 by Lblock |
Shocking result that what was in effect a second EU referendum ended up in the same result sort of way?
Best of five anyone? |
Not quite.
Pro Leave parties (Conservatives, Brexit)
45.6% of total votes
Pro Remain/2nd Ref parties (Labour, Lid Dem, Green, SNP, Plaid)
50.6% of total votes
No evidence there is still a majority in UK in favour of leaving EU.
Not saying it won’t or shouldn’t happen now, it will. But I’m pretty sure there will be another referendum at some point in the future when those sunlit uplands don’t materialize. |  | | |
| Good Luck UK on 10:10 - Dec 14 with 1457 views | CaptainPugwash |
Arrrrrrr..
Don't 'e worry,Stephen Kinnock be savin' Labour. 
Yo Ho! |  | | |
| Good Luck UK on 10:10 - Dec 14 with 1457 views | BlackCrowe |
but Labour wasn't pro-remain. They ran a neutral ticket. |  |
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| Good Luck UK on 10:15 - Dec 14 with 1447 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Good Luck UK on 10:10 - Dec 14 by BlackCrowe |
but Labour wasn't pro-remain. They ran a neutral ticket. |
Bolx, it was going to be a new referendum with just remain or half remain, Leave was not to be on the ticket.
The Labour cabinet were all remain.
It was without a doubt 1983 all over again
The Falklands war saved Maggy and Brexit saved Boris
Foot and Corbyn got buried. [Post edited 14 Dec 2019 10:44]
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