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Gaffer on today's defeat 18:36 - Dec 29 with 3313 viewsbosh67

https://www.qpr.co.uk/videos/interviews/warburton-reacts-to-hull-defeat/

Hard to argue with a word of that. He's really hurting tonight.

No doubt the moronic keyboard warriors will be out in numbers on clickbait sites feeding crap journalists twitter sh*te for MW's head, but he's right, if you have that many chances you have to put the ball in the net a lot more often. We can't keep gifting goals either.

It must be very difficult being a manager here because whoever manages or whoever plays here, year on year we seem to have a groundhog reaction to losing that has become a toxic culture. If heads drop we are in a bit of trouble. If they can ride this storm for once they will win before too long and go on a better run. But the players have to concentrate better than they are. As a manager what do you do when they don't? How do you manage that lack of concentration out of them?
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Never knowingly right.
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 18:40 - Dec 29 with 2393 viewsMelakaRanger

He’s deluded
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 18:51 - Dec 29 with 2335 viewsbosh67

Gaffer on today's defeat on 18:40 - Dec 29 by MelakaRanger

He’s deluded


In what way? He says he can't repeat himself to the fans as it's obvious. My one criticism is that he doesn't seem to be able to get the players to concentrate through a whole game or play with consistent concentration.

Never knowingly right.
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 18:56 - Dec 29 with 2312 viewsstainrods_elbow

Gaffer on today's defeat on 18:40 - Dec 29 by MelakaRanger

He’s deluded


And you sound like an idiot! I do like Warbs - he tells it much more like it is, and is a serious step up for us from the likes of Hair Island, Jimmy 'It is what it is' Floyd, and Saggy Chops - chalk and cheese!

What he probably won't say - though must be in his mind - is that the squad just isn't consistently good enough at the level, from front to back. I'm also flummoxed by him keep telling us it's all about 'working harder', when he's also saying he's satsfiied by the effort and commitment, which I don't think is at issue. We need to work cleverer, concentrate better, and manage the game - and at least some of that has to be led by the coaching team. Are they, then, doing their jobs well enough?
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 18:58 - Dec 29 with 2297 viewsVancouverHoop

It's the repetition of the same mistakes that's so frustrating (and must be particularly so for Warburton.) Why do we concede so many goals from dead ball situations? I'm sure they practice this endlessly, but you wouldn't think so. Our defenders aren't inexperienced. It's – literally – incredible to me.
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:01 - Dec 29 with 2272 viewsEastR

They practice defending against our forwards who can't score

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Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:06 - Dec 29 with 2232 viewsted_hendrix

Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:01 - Dec 29 by EastR

They practice defending against our forwards who can't score


LOFL

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Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:08 - Dec 29 with 2216 viewsHunterhoop

Gaffer on today's defeat on 18:51 - Dec 29 by bosh67

In what way? He says he can't repeat himself to the fans as it's obvious. My one criticism is that he doesn't seem to be able to get the players to concentrate through a whole game or play with consistent concentration.


I’m torn on Warburton. I think he part gets it.

A lot of what he says, and said, then makes sense and is considered.

But “we need to be more clinical” is only part of the problem. We do, obviouslyX

But we don’t play with common sense and urgency in the last 10 of games. Yes, De Vries May Head it clear, but pressure and numbers in the box do funny things to teams in football.

We took two short corners in the last 5 min away at Fulham, took another two when trailing here. That is not good use of the ball or common sense. And I know the stats, but they’re being misread. You can’t replicate open play goals from crosses from the edge of the box because there are too many players in the box when you take it short!

On top of that, he needs to start openly assessing and understanding that “individual errors” don’t just happen by fluke. They have a cause; they stem from something. He needs to do more than say the players are asking the qns; he needs to ask himself and answer that qn! That is his job.

Ultimately, I think he’s made our players technically a lot better but mentally a lot worse. Net result is even. He needs to assess, review and improve this, not the players.

We’re great between the boxes but terrible in both. Given the current football climate, that gets more respect than in decades past. But realistically it’s no better than any other (opposite) myopic manager, like Pulis.

It’s no more entertaining watching your side play pretty football but know there’s no end product and we’ll concede two soft goals, than it is watching your team hump it long and boot it clear, but get the same results. We took the piss out of Swansea and Brentford for this for years.

Ultimately this is Warburton’s job to fix. 10 points in 13 games. 7 points fewer than this time last year. It’s clearly a weaker league too. He needs to start owning the fix. Players’ attitudes, mentality, and mental fortitude is just as much a part of his job as how well they can pass and trap it.
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:14 - Dec 29 with 2171 viewspaulparker

He handed Hull the game with that terrible sub when smith came on for Amos
Him and Lumley are to blame for today

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

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Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:17 - Dec 29 with 2153 viewsShunter

My only criticism of MW today were the substitutions, Smith for Amos, like for like, but Smith had no effect on the game what so ever and we seemed to go flat after that sub.
Also, Chair was the best player on the pitch and, as usual, he was substituted, Hugill had to come on but to remove Chair was crazy.

However, we need to support MW, he needs time to build this team and the players need to look at themselves after getting 1 point out of 9 when 9 out of 9 was so possible.
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:24 - Dec 29 with 2122 viewskernowhoop

Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:08 - Dec 29 by Hunterhoop

I’m torn on Warburton. I think he part gets it.

A lot of what he says, and said, then makes sense and is considered.

But “we need to be more clinical” is only part of the problem. We do, obviouslyX

But we don’t play with common sense and urgency in the last 10 of games. Yes, De Vries May Head it clear, but pressure and numbers in the box do funny things to teams in football.

We took two short corners in the last 5 min away at Fulham, took another two when trailing here. That is not good use of the ball or common sense. And I know the stats, but they’re being misread. You can’t replicate open play goals from crosses from the edge of the box because there are too many players in the box when you take it short!

On top of that, he needs to start openly assessing and understanding that “individual errors” don’t just happen by fluke. They have a cause; they stem from something. He needs to do more than say the players are asking the qns; he needs to ask himself and answer that qn! That is his job.

Ultimately, I think he’s made our players technically a lot better but mentally a lot worse. Net result is even. He needs to assess, review and improve this, not the players.

We’re great between the boxes but terrible in both. Given the current football climate, that gets more respect than in decades past. But realistically it’s no better than any other (opposite) myopic manager, like Pulis.

It’s no more entertaining watching your side play pretty football but know there’s no end product and we’ll concede two soft goals, than it is watching your team hump it long and boot it clear, but get the same results. We took the piss out of Swansea and Brentford for this for years.

Ultimately this is Warburton’s job to fix. 10 points in 13 games. 7 points fewer than this time last year. It’s clearly a weaker league too. He needs to start owning the fix. Players’ attitudes, mentality, and mental fortitude is just as much a part of his job as how well they can pass and trap it.


"We’re great between the boxes but terrible in both[b/]. Given the current football climate, that gets more respect than in decades past. But realistically it’s no better than any other (opposite) myopic manager, like Pulis."
We are definitely falling short in our own box, but, we are scoring an average of 1.5 goals a game. It is frustrating that we are not scoring even more, but, that particular stat is not 'terrible', is it?
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:31 - Dec 29 with 2071 viewsbosh67

Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:24 - Dec 29 by kernowhoop

"We’re great between the boxes but terrible in both[b/]. Given the current football climate, that gets more respect than in decades past. But realistically it’s no better than any other (opposite) myopic manager, like Pulis."
We are definitely falling short in our own box, but, we are scoring an average of 1.5 goals a game. It is frustrating that we are not scoring even more, but, that particular stat is not 'terrible', is it?


"we are scoring an average of 1.5 goals a game. It is frustrating that we are not scoring even more, but, that particular stat is not 'terrible', is it?"

It kind of is when you lose most home games 2-1.5

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Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:37 - Dec 29 with 2052 viewsVancouverHoop

Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:01 - Dec 29 by EastR

They practice defending against our forwards who can't score


Heh!

In fact our forwards can score, it's not so long ago that Wells and Hugill were among the top scorers in the division, with Eze not far behind. It's just that they haven't be scoring lately.

A team's weaknesses – and ours are primarily defensive – if not resolved will eventually spread. That's what's happening right now.
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:37 - Dec 29 with 2052 viewsBenny_the_Ball

That's the most dejected I've seen him post match and I can understand why. He says he can't repeat himself but the fact is he is, over and over again. This begs the question, why are QPR making the same mistakes? Is it the tactics? Is it the coaching? Is it the players? Whatever it is, MW has to come up with the answers fast otherwise QPR will be dragged into a relegation dogfight and, whether you like it or not, the clamour for MW's head will intensify.
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:38 - Dec 29 with 2048 viewskernowhoop

Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:24 - Dec 29 by kernowhoop

"We’re great between the boxes but terrible in both[b/]. Given the current football climate, that gets more respect than in decades past. But realistically it’s no better than any other (opposite) myopic manager, like Pulis."
We are definitely falling short in our own box, but, we are scoring an average of 1.5 goals a game. It is frustrating that we are not scoring even more, but, that particular stat is not 'terrible', is it?


Sorry about that. I read the instructions about how to do 'bold', but, obviously messed it up. The message is that we ought to be scoring more goals, but, 1.5 goals a game is not terrible.
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:45 - Dec 29 with 2025 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:38 - Dec 29 by kernowhoop

Sorry about that. I read the instructions about how to do 'bold', but, obviously messed it up. The message is that we ought to be scoring more goals, but, 1.5 goals a game is not terrible.


It is if you're conceding 2 goals per game. Football tactics is about striking a balance between defence and attack. Kevin Keegan demonstrated a long time ago that the gung-ho approach doesn't work (and he had much better quality players at his disposal).
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:52 - Dec 29 with 1990 viewsDejR_vu

I think MW is doing a pretty remarkable job given the hand he’s been dealt. Let’s not forget he brought in 16 new players for the grand sum of £50k in the summer, whilst at the same time dumping 20 others, raising a few £million and cutting the wage bill in the process. It’s not his fault he’s having to make do with a keeper who’s clearly nowhere near good enough.

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Gaffer on today's defeat on 20:01 - Dec 29 with 1942 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:52 - Dec 29 by DejR_vu

I think MW is doing a pretty remarkable job given the hand he’s been dealt. Let’s not forget he brought in 16 new players for the grand sum of £50k in the summer, whilst at the same time dumping 20 others, raising a few £million and cutting the wage bill in the process. It’s not his fault he’s having to make do with a keeper who’s clearly nowhere near good enough.


You're right, it's not, but he knew what he was letting himself in for when he took the job on. Ultimately if results continue to head south who do you think will pay with his job? Fernandes? Hoos? Ferdinand? Lumley? No, it will be Warburton because football is a results-driven business and the manager's head is always first on the block. So MW has to find solutions to persistent problems and find them fast.
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 20:27 - Dec 29 with 1878 viewsMelakaRanger

Gaffer on today's defeat on 18:56 - Dec 29 by stainrods_elbow

And you sound like an idiot! I do like Warbs - he tells it much more like it is, and is a serious step up for us from the likes of Hair Island, Jimmy 'It is what it is' Floyd, and Saggy Chops - chalk and cheese!

What he probably won't say - though must be in his mind - is that the squad just isn't consistently good enough at the level, from front to back. I'm also flummoxed by him keep telling us it's all about 'working harder', when he's also saying he's satsfiied by the effort and commitment, which I don't think is at issue. We need to work cleverer, concentrate better, and manage the game - and at least some of that has to be led by the coaching team. Are they, then, doing their jobs well enough?
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I say I think he’s deluded. You though, rather than disagreeing with me decide to call me an idiot.


That says more about you than me.


Let’s have a New Year resolution on this forum eh? No more personal derogatory remarks against fellow QPR supporters please.

Thank you
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 21:07 - Dec 29 with 1811 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Does anyone really take Post Match comments seriously? He's hardly going to give us a ArsenalTV type rant is he?
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 21:23 - Dec 29 with 1779 viewsdigswellhoop

WE are where we are because we are inconsistent i was there today seemed all huff and puff yes we created more but we are and will be mid table team for awhile so either stick with him or stay where we are or another decade
BECAUSE WE ARE QPR
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 21:41 - Dec 29 with 1746 viewsenfieldargh

Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:14 - Dec 29 by paulparker

He handed Hull the game with that terrible sub when smith came on for Amos
Him and Lumley are to blame for today


Taking off Chair also seemed to blunt us even more.

Chair and Ebs carried our biggest threat.

Amos may have been tiring but Scowen is surely a better option than Matt Smith who was awful

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Gaffer on today's defeat on 21:46 - Dec 29 with 1717 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

Gaffer on today's defeat on 21:41 - Dec 29 by enfieldargh

Taking off Chair also seemed to blunt us even more.

Chair and Ebs carried our biggest threat.

Amos may have been tiring but Scowen is surely a better option than Matt Smith who was awful


"Scowen is surely a better option than Matt Smith"

I thought the same against Reading. Can only think Scowen will be moving on soon. He's not the answer to our midfield problems either to be fair. We need more creativity from the middle to release our potential.
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 22:01 - Dec 29 with 1663 viewsPunteR

Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:37 - Dec 29 by Benny_the_Ball

That's the most dejected I've seen him post match and I can understand why. He says he can't repeat himself but the fact is he is, over and over again. This begs the question, why are QPR making the same mistakes? Is it the tactics? Is it the coaching? Is it the players? Whatever it is, MW has to come up with the answers fast otherwise QPR will be dragged into a relegation dogfight and, whether you like it or not, the clamour for MW's head will intensify.


"MW has to come up with the answers fast otherwise QPR will be dragged into a relegation dogfight and, whether you like it or not, the clamour for MW's head will intensify."

But thats just where we are in the grand scheme of things. Doesnt matter what manager we have. Its the players at these managers disposal. We're skint. Lumley would never have got in the first team a couple of years ago but we had to sell Smithies. Warburton brought his own keeper in but has given Lumley a chance.
MW needs time not be judged on half a season, which actually has seen us play some of the best football for years.

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Gaffer on today's defeat on 22:19 - Dec 29 with 1618 viewsblacky2013

We are 11 points off the relegation zone which, at the beginning of the season I'm sure we would of taken at this point of the season. Considering MW has had one transfer window where he had to ship out loads and replace them with cheaper options I think we are in a good position. You can't build a team in one window. The fact of the matter is that some of the players simply are lower championship players. If they were consistent at the top of their game we wouldn't of got them for the price we paid (hence we wouldn't of got them at all).
I'm as frustrated at the mistakes we keep making as everyone else but we have got to be realistic. Changing managers all the time hasn't worked before so why would it work now? We need to give MW a chance, not only with tactics but also with building a team and getting the players that fits how he wants to play. Even Alex Ferguson took a few years to build a team with massive resources.
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Gaffer on today's defeat on 22:22 - Dec 29 with 1599 viewsHunterhoop

Gaffer on today's defeat on 19:24 - Dec 29 by kernowhoop

"We’re great between the boxes but terrible in both[b/]. Given the current football climate, that gets more respect than in decades past. But realistically it’s no better than any other (opposite) myopic manager, like Pulis."
We are definitely falling short in our own box, but, we are scoring an average of 1.5 goals a game. It is frustrating that we are not scoring even more, but, that particular stat is not 'terrible', is it?


Well, I saw a stat the other day that identified us as having one of the worst Exoected Goals to Actual Goals ratios in the league; ie we’re one of the most wasteful. But we’re creating lots of chances. So, yeah, I think my description was pretty accurate.
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