| How do we arrest the current slump? 21:19 - Feb 9 with 2646 views | bosh67 |
Problem is we hugely exceeded expectations first half of the season with a young inexperienced team that played with freedom and without fear. If they scored 2 we scored 3. It felt easy. We always had the achilles heal of leaking goals but a team that loves to attack, enjoys their football scores goals.
Then you start losing a few and the heads go down. The young players can't keep up the intensity. Worse still some of the senior team members and the top scorer go mid season. Then younger players hear high numbers banded around about their value and who wants them in the Prem or from teams looking like they are on the way up. Their heads are turned. Not completely but enough to switch off a bit. Those on loan start thinking where they will be next season. With another loan club or finally at their parent club.
Suddenly, a young inexperienced team starts losing focus and on top of that, the club and management are hamstrung to bring in real options, or enough options to plug the gap. The mistakes grow bigger, more infectious and the doubts rise as to how and who can stem it. From a team that played with more ease than mistakes, with more confidence than doubt it has started to turn on its head.
The natural thing to do would be to panic but the reality is that the management and the board have to sit down with the squad and somehow galvanise them over the final third of the season. Re-learn how to play without fear again, start games better, dig in more earlier and work out ways to get the team enjoying their football again.
For me it is down to getting the team's focus back and also making strategic changes in the game quickly if the shape or play is wrong, rather than reacting to things going wrong, which for me is MW's only real weakness. That and just trying to get our defenders and holding midfielders to communicate better and keep their shape more often.
And perhaps most importantly remind the players that results generally come when you relax and enjoy playing, which is what we did so well earlier in the season. |  |
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| How do we arrest the current slump? on 22:17 - Feb 9 with 1860 views | daveB |
The slump has been going on a bit too long now, what is now 4 wins since we beat Blackburn in October, not great.
The big issue for me is central midfield where I think we've been poor recently, Ball has done well but we are too reliant on Chair and Eze coming deep for the ball when we need them on the ball in the final third. I don't think we have the player to link the defence to the attack and pass through the lines, with what we have I'd think about switching back to 3 at the back have Ball and Cameron in front of the back 3 protecting them and give licence to Barbet or Masterson to bring the ball out with one of those two dropping in to cover them, they both have the ability to do that.
Rather than 2 up front play it as a 3-4-3 with Bright and Eze wide , i think that helps out the defence and can fix how we get the ball out from defence into the flair players who can hurt teams. |  | | |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 22:41 - Feb 9 with 1810 views | Lblock |
Get your Captain in amongst them to razzle ‘em up and tell them how important and what an honour it is to play for this club. He’s the passionate heartbeat of the place and would run through walls for the club.....
Oh hang on.... the club captain who may have done that has been shipped out to Germany to save Bungle and the boys £400k.
But what about the first team squad Captain I hear you cry? That’ll be the chap who’s more than likely out the door in May, been off sick most of the season (again) and from the last few games I’ve seen has racked the cue.
Shame coz when he was on it he was a great player, never a captain, but a great player.
This squad patently never been coached to defend. The football we’ve seen has been superb and all credit for that, but you’ve got to mix it at any level. It’s too late to start trying to shut the door now as certain patterns clearly drummed in and there’s no sniff of anyone having a clue of plan B.
The solution is hang in there till the sun starts shining again and hope we scrape 5 wins.
I think Warbs may surpass the horrific streaks of six we’ve seen in recent years a la Ollie, McLaren etc. Just gotta stick with him as anyone new just won’t have the right tools now to tough things out till May.
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| How do we arrest the current slump? on 22:49 - Feb 9 with 1796 views | daveB |
Hall hasn't been off sick all season, he's played the last 18 games | | | |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 23:13 - Feb 9 with 1753 views | ted_hendrix |
Its got nothing to do with tactics/formations or any other such bullshit but the first thing we've got to do is get these players morale up, strewth it looked rock bottom to me.
The whole place is down in the dumps at the moment including the fans, fck knows how they go about it but you need our squad of players to want to get into training, want to get at Swansea on Tuesday night, lets get some bloody attitude going and stop fecking moping around. |  |
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| How do we arrest the current slump? on 23:30 - Feb 9 with 1724 views | actonman |
First off , decide on someone who has the bllox and authority to get a grip on the team and be a leader ! If no person like this exists then create one .
Get rid of playing out from the back at all costs, defenders , if the ball comes within 20 yards of goal then peter Kay style leather the cnt as far as you can . P!ss about with it all you want when not being pressed but trying to knock it about between yourself when being pressed just causes panic and confusion affecting confidence throughout the game... horses for courses
Not sure if zonal marking is any good but I do know zonal defending is fking atrocious! How many times do opposing players pick the ball up in midfield and have time to roll a fag , have a cup of tea then stroll forward on goal while we either stand there or Micheal Jackson moonwalk allowing them to either tee up a shot or pick a pass without interference.
I could go on but basically go back to basics and stop conceding fking pathetic limp arsed goals then we can have a go at the other end |  | | |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 23:39 - Feb 9 with 1710 views | PunteR |
Has Rangel got enough in the tank left for the 2nd half of the season? Id get him back playing maybe make him captain. Were going to need all the experience we can get for a relegation battle. Get Manning back in midfield as well . |  |
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| How do we arrest the current slump? on 23:44 - Feb 9 with 1704 views | PunteR |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 22:17 - Feb 9 by daveB |
The slump has been going on a bit too long now, what is now 4 wins since we beat Blackburn in October, not great.
The big issue for me is central midfield where I think we've been poor recently, Ball has done well but we are too reliant on Chair and Eze coming deep for the ball when we need them on the ball in the final third. I don't think we have the player to link the defence to the attack and pass through the lines, with what we have I'd think about switching back to 3 at the back have Ball and Cameron in front of the back 3 protecting them and give licence to Barbet or Masterson to bring the ball out with one of those two dropping in to cover them, they both have the ability to do that.
Rather than 2 up front play it as a 3-4-3 with Bright and Eze wide , i think that helps out the defence and can fix how we get the ball out from defence into the flair players who can hurt teams. |
Yeh our midfield is weak as. | |
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| How do we arrest the current slump? on 00:04 - Feb 10 with 1682 views | Antti_Heinola |
I tell you one thing for free.
Having a different captain won't change a thing. Completely baffles me why some fans are so obsessed to the point of fetishising that armband. |  |
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| How do we arrest the current slump? on 00:20 - Feb 10 with 1660 views | PunteR |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 00:04 - Feb 10 by Antti_Heinola |
I tell you one thing for free.
Having a different captain won't change a thing. Completely baffles me why some fans are so obsessed to the point of fetishising that armband. |
fetishising that armband.?
I did say maybe make Rangel captain. What on earth is wrong in making an experienced player captain anyway?
Its never hurt successful teams in the past.
Maybe it wont change anything but it wont hurt to try will it? | |
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| How do we arrest the current slump? on 00:36 - Feb 10 with 1647 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
Its very simple as far as I am concerned just score first and see the bolt it shoots through everyone on and off the pitch.Falling behind crushes our fragile confidence and its almost inevitable that another goal sneaks in and its game over .When we get ahead we have the ability to take over and our speed can make a difference .
As someone else suggested it might be time to put Manning back in and see if he can re-energize his and our game |  | | |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 05:09 - Feb 10 with 1559 views | enfieldargh |
Don’t like singling players out but MW gives Amos a lot of kudos and I think he sees so much in him which maybe there is.
But it’s highly unlikely he’ll be here next season so why persist with a player whose not that good.
I think Manning is capable of taking that role on and having Eze taking a more forward role.
Barbet returning in place of Hall is a must as GH fills me with dread as does Kane.
Hope we can get at least 15 more points especially not letting those below us beat us.......easier said than done |  |
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| How do we arrest the current slump? on 05:39 - Feb 10 with 1546 views | smegma |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 22:49 - Feb 9 by daveB |
Hall hasn't been off sick all season, he's played the last 18 games |
Why let facts get in the way of a rant ?? | | | |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 06:27 - Feb 10 with 1513 views | ozranger |
I think we might get to see some radical changes for Swansea - players like Rangel for Kane, Barbet for Hall and even Eze getting a rest, though that may be pushing the boat out. Manning will also more than likely come in. Hugill certainly cannot play three games in a week and so Oteh may even get a start.
Whether that will arrest the slump or just make it worse is a question I cannot answer. |  | | |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 07:25 - Feb 10 with 1460 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Hall the new scapegoat is it. |  | | |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 07:31 - Feb 10 with 1447 views | Watford_Ranger |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 07:25 - Feb 10 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Hall the new scapegoat is it. |
No, just a player in poor form after years of predominantly mediocrity. | | | |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 07:32 - Feb 10 with 1438 views | Watford_Ranger |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 05:09 - Feb 10 by enfieldargh |
Don’t like singling players out but MW gives Amos a lot of kudos and I think he sees so much in him which maybe there is.
But it’s highly unlikely he’ll be here next season so why persist with a player whose not that good.
I think Manning is capable of taking that role on and having Eze taking a more forward role.
Barbet returning in place of Hall is a must as GH fills me with dread as does Kane.
Hope we can get at least 15 more points especially not letting those below us beat us.......easier said than done |
MW might see it but I haven’t for a long time and the guy seemingly can’t ever play a full game. Surely Manning has to be tried there especially away for a bit of bite. | | | |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 07:47 - Feb 10 with 1425 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 07:31 - Feb 10 by Watford_Ranger |
No, just a player in poor form after years of predominantly mediocrity. |
Supporters POTY not so long ago. | | | |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 07:50 - Feb 10 with 1413 views | jonno |
The players, having seen what happened in the transfer window, have decided that if the club is prepared to weaken the squad to save money then why should they bother? `they have packed it in for the season - arses need kicking. |  | | |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 07:51 - Feb 10 with 1405 views | Watford_Ranger |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 07:47 - Feb 10 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Supporters POTY not so long ago. |
Four seasons ago. | | | |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 08:35 - Feb 10 with 1343 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 07:51 - Feb 10 by Watford_Ranger |
Four seasons ago. |
'Predominantly Mediocrity' is what the whole team has suffered since we were relegated. Not sure what Hall has done to deserve special mention. Was hailed the saviour when Holloway stuck him in midfield.
Other than Eze / BOS / Chair not sure who has really shone in the last four years. And even they have been called lazy, unfinished, and lightweight.
We just seem to pick the targets of criticism out of a hat at random, be it Luongo, Hall, Hugill, Scowen, Barbet or whoever without really come to the realisation that this has been a trend through 6 managers now. They can’t all be wrong.
The whole team is mediocre because we don't have £millions to spend and our training facilities and academy (despite recent successes) are lagging behind. [Post edited 10 Feb 2020 9:13]
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| How do we arrest the current slump? on 09:00 - Feb 10 with 1305 views | loftus77 |
To answer the OP…. I recommend that we start supporting whoever is playing Luton, Barnsley and (especially) Wigan from this day on until May.
Apart from when they play each other, when we root for draws. | | | |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 09:20 - Feb 10 with 1269 views | TheChef |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 23:39 - Feb 9 by PunteR |
Has Rangel got enough in the tank left for the 2nd half of the season? Id get him back playing maybe make him captain. Were going to need all the experience we can get for a relegation battle. Get Manning back in midfield as well . |
Agreed on all that. Rangel is a better defender than Kane, even if he doesn't offer the same going forward.
Amos has been a disappoint for me too, hence worth putting Manning back in there. |  |
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| How do we arrest the current slump? on 17:27 - Feb 10 with 1094 views | themodfather |
any team needs a leader, someone to rally the team, inspire and keep them going, have we had one in ages? a successful team has 2 or 3 and they give energy to the others. stats show we can have more possession, shots but also leak goals, also any mistake by us is costing us, bad luck? we need to find the belief and strength to get the 12-13 pts needed to stay up. | | | |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 17:39 - Feb 10 with 1067 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 07:25 - Feb 10 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Hall the new scapegoat is it. |
Well unless we play three at the back we can only pick two CBs and the best two at the moment would be Barbet and Masterson IMO as Leistner has gone. So we would also need to change the captaincy.
Hardly scapegoating is it? |  | | |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 17:48 - Feb 10 with 1043 views | PunteR |
| How do we arrest the current slump? on 17:39 - Feb 10 by Ned_Kennedys |
Well unless we play three at the back we can only pick two CBs and the best two at the moment would be Barbet and Masterson IMO as Leistner has gone. So we would also need to change the captaincy.
Hardly scapegoating is it? |
Who needs captains..? just give the armband to Jude the cat | |
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