| Warburton in denial 07:46 - Jul 1 with 6996 views | Hooparoo |
Warburton trots out the “we controlled the game” and “we was robbed” cliches yet the stats quite clearly show Fulham were on top. Is he just saying what he’s been told to say or is he deluded? |  |
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| Warburton in denial on 07:56 - Jul 1 with 3417 views | ozexile |
He's certainly not been told to say it. But what I've found with Warburton is that his idea of controlling the game seems to mean we passed the ball around at the back a lot. |  | | |
| Warburton in denial on 08:18 - Jul 1 with 3339 views | stevec |
We’ve been relatively blessed this season with the likes of Eze and Hugill. Warburton has also done a great job getting the team to play good football and getting BOS out of his shell.
But the vulnerabilities in the team don’t go away. He has a side, not least the aforementioned three, that should be comfortably in the top half.
And despite the vileness of the man, Bartons digs during lockdown will be having an effect, particularly the longer this run goes on. |  | | |
| Warburton in denial on 08:19 - Jul 1 with 3347 views | traininvain |
The stats don’t always tell the whole story. We hit the bar late on and Amos missed a sitter in the first half. I thought we had the better chances and will be disappointed not to have got at least a draw.
And let’s not forget the difference between our squad of youngsters and players picked up on the cheap compared to their expensively assembled squad of multi million pound footballers. |  | | |
| Warburton in denial on 08:26 - Jul 1 with 3318 views | smegma |
We didn't deserve to lose last night. Someone is certainly deluded. | | | |
| Warburton in denial on 08:42 - Jul 1 with 3243 views | paulparker |
| Warburton in denial on 08:19 - Jul 1 by traininvain |
The stats don’t always tell the whole story. We hit the bar late on and Amos missed a sitter in the first half. I thought we had the better chances and will be disappointed not to have got at least a draw.
And let’s not forget the difference between our squad of youngsters and players picked up on the cheap compared to their expensively assembled squad of multi million pound footballers. |
What’s the excuse for Barnsley & charlton then ?
We have better squads than them , don’t we ? |  |
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| Warburton in denial on 08:44 - Jul 1 with 3233 views | stevec |
| Warburton in denial on 08:26 - Jul 1 by smegma |
We didn't deserve to lose last night. Someone is certainly deluded. |
Didn’t bother watching but all the reports I’ve read suggest Fulham were the better side.
We were playing a team that had run out of centre forwards, same last Saturday. | | | |
| Warburton in denial on 08:54 - Jul 1 with 3208 views | switchingcode |
Get used to it he’s full of them “we will learn” “plan B is you get plan A right”he had his best years at Brentford where he took over a good side managed by Uwe Rosler plus a great recruitment Team that he rejected.I often wonder what he must be thinking when he sees the team he has set up get ripped apart by the club he rejected as an unacceptable system to work in.His time at Forrest although only 9 months but around the same amount of games was better and they got rid.I bet he doesn’t survive till Christmas you have gone backwards from those heady days when you were 1 win from going second earlier in the season and 5 points ahead of us. | | | |
| Warburton in denial on 09:09 - Jul 1 with 3164 views | A40Bosh |
| Warburton in denial on 08:19 - Jul 1 by traininvain |
The stats don’t always tell the whole story. We hit the bar late on and Amos missed a sitter in the first half. I thought we had the better chances and will be disappointed not to have got at least a draw.
And let’s not forget the difference between our squad of youngsters and players picked up on the cheap compared to their expensively assembled squad of multi million pound footballers. |
"And let’s not forget the difference between our squad of youngsters and players picked up on the cheap compared to their expensively assembled squad of multi million pound footballers."
Mate, do you not get at this stage that after any defeat, a large number of posters on here do not want to hear that, and will not accept that as an excuse. If we don't win, and win convincingly, there is hysteria and Warbuton goes straight on to the naughty step and the club is going to hell in a handcart again.
Did we lose to Fulham: Yes
Did we expect to lose to Fulham: Yes |  |
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| Warburton in denial on 09:26 - Jul 1 with 3099 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Warburton in denial on 08:54 - Jul 1 by switchingcode |
Get used to it he’s full of them “we will learn” “plan B is you get plan A right”he had his best years at Brentford where he took over a good side managed by Uwe Rosler plus a great recruitment Team that he rejected.I often wonder what he must be thinking when he sees the team he has set up get ripped apart by the club he rejected as an unacceptable system to work in.His time at Forrest although only 9 months but around the same amount of games was better and they got rid.I bet he doesn’t survive till Christmas you have gone backwards from those heady days when you were 1 win from going second earlier in the season and 5 points ahead of us. |
So do you think Warburton would still be at Brentford if he hadn't rejected your recruitment system?
Highly unlikely I'd have thought.
He doesn't strike me as someone who has too many regrets in life. He's got himself a very difficult job here at QPR and might well be gone before Christmas like you say. Still that's a lot longer than most of them last 😂 |  |
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| Warburton in denial on 09:30 - Jul 1 with 3083 views | joe90 |
It was similar to our earlier game this season. Fulham absorbed the pressure and just picked up the ball and passed with confidence and accuracy. At times they looked like they were under the cosh, but they quickly re-gained control. I don't think they played particularly well, but you could see they were better than us and ground out a perfunctory win.
We were unlucky to miss some of our chances, but considering our overall play during the game, we did not deserve a point. let alone three. Fair result in my opinion. |  | | |
| Warburton in denial on 09:31 - Jul 1 with 3076 views | Northolt_Rs |
| Warburton in denial on 09:09 - Jul 1 by A40Bosh |
"And let’s not forget the difference between our squad of youngsters and players picked up on the cheap compared to their expensively assembled squad of multi million pound footballers."
Mate, do you not get at this stage that after any defeat, a large number of posters on here do not want to hear that, and will not accept that as an excuse. If we don't win, and win convincingly, there is hysteria and Warbuton goes straight on to the naughty step and the club is going to hell in a handcart again.
Did we lose to Fulham: Yes
Did we expect to lose to Fulham: Yes |
Do we all just accept losing to Barnsley, Charlton, Fulham: NO |  |
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| Warburton in denial on 09:31 - Jul 1 with 3075 views | daveB |
Sod the stats, I watched the game and we did deserve at the very least a point, thought we were the better side for large parts of the game apart from 10 minute spell in the first half.
Warburton is not in denial, he was spot on |  | | |
| Warburton in denial on 09:31 - Jul 1 with 3051 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Warburton in denial on 09:09 - Jul 1 by A40Bosh |
"And let’s not forget the difference between our squad of youngsters and players picked up on the cheap compared to their expensively assembled squad of multi million pound footballers."
Mate, do you not get at this stage that after any defeat, a large number of posters on here do not want to hear that, and will not accept that as an excuse. If we don't win, and win convincingly, there is hysteria and Warbuton goes straight on to the naughty step and the club is going to hell in a handcart again.
Did we lose to Fulham: Yes
Did we expect to lose to Fulham: Yes |
Did we lose to Fulham: Yes
Did we expect to lose to Fulham: Yes
Before the lockdown, we were the form team
Most peps thought our upcoming fixtures were somewhat easier
I'm not sure we expected to lose to Fulham till we played so poorly against Barnsley and Charlton.
Maybe the playoffs were not possible, I said so myself, but the first 2 games were dreadful for what was a form team.
I thought the last-nights game was fairly even, but fulham have been poor and without some big players missing for them.
I firmly blame the club as a whole, for not being prepared.
He//they can say what they want but the truth is, they had written this season off back in March. |  |
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| Warburton in denial on 09:32 - Jul 1 with 3067 views | daveB |
| Warburton in denial on 08:42 - Jul 1 by paulparker |
What’s the excuse for Barnsley & charlton then ?
We have better squads than them , don’t we ? |
No excuse for those games, we didn't play well in either and deserved to lose | | | |
| Warburton in denial on 09:40 - Jul 1 with 3042 views | daveB |
| Warburton in denial on 09:31 - Jul 1 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Did we lose to Fulham: Yes
Did we expect to lose to Fulham: Yes
Before the lockdown, we were the form team
Most peps thought our upcoming fixtures were somewhat easier
I'm not sure we expected to lose to Fulham till we played so poorly against Barnsley and Charlton.
Maybe the playoffs were not possible, I said so myself, but the first 2 games were dreadful for what was a form team.
I thought the last-nights game was fairly even, but fulham have been poor and without some big players missing for them.
I firmly blame the club as a whole, for not being prepared.
He//they can say what they want but the truth is, they had written this season off back in March. |
How were they supposed to prepare? Players hadn't played in 3 months so form they were in was as irrelevant as the form from a previous season.
During the 3 weeks of training they could do before the start only a week and a half of that was contact training, i think you've seen with the vast majority of games played so far a lot of clubs haven't looked ready to start playing and not been at their best because they weren't ready and are below their best.
It's unprecedented circumstances and we ended up having to lose 2 important players for financial reasons as well, i think it's incredibly harsh to blame the club for not being prepared, what exactly were they not prepared for?
Two crap performances can happen and have happened at any stage of the season without warning. It was a real positive last night to see them react though and produce a much better display which sadly didn't get the result it deserved but will hopefully help the team get better results over the next few games. | | | |
| Warburton in denial on 09:46 - Jul 1 with 3020 views | robith |
Who would be telling him to say it? The illuminati? NWO? |  | | |
| Warburton in denial on 09:46 - Jul 1 with 3021 views | traininvain |
| Warburton in denial on 08:42 - Jul 1 by paulparker |
What’s the excuse for Barnsley & charlton then ?
We have better squads than them , don’t we ? |
We were poor against Barnsley and Charlton. No excuses. But we’re talking about last night’s game. | | | |
| Warburton in denial on 09:46 - Jul 1 with 2999 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Warburton in denial on 09:40 - Jul 1 by daveB |
How were they supposed to prepare? Players hadn't played in 3 months so form they were in was as irrelevant as the form from a previous season.
During the 3 weeks of training they could do before the start only a week and a half of that was contact training, i think you've seen with the vast majority of games played so far a lot of clubs haven't looked ready to start playing and not been at their best because they weren't ready and are below their best.
It's unprecedented circumstances and we ended up having to lose 2 important players for financial reasons as well, i think it's incredibly harsh to blame the club for not being prepared, what exactly were they not prepared for?
Two crap performances can happen and have happened at any stage of the season without warning. It was a real positive last night to see them react though and produce a much better display which sadly didn't get the result it deserved but will hopefully help the team get better results over the next few games. |
They came back half-arsed, I don't care what excuses/ reasons they come up with, it was no different for Barnsley/ Charlton.
The difference being Barnsley/ Charlton prepare and put a shift in. [Post edited 1 Jul 2020 9:49]
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| Warburton in denial on 10:16 - Jul 1 with 2911 views | ted_hendrix |
Barnsley then Charlton then Fulham, prior to the Barnsley game you'd have looked at those three fixtures and with all due respect to those three clubs you'd have expected a minimum of three points and we've ended up with nothing which IMO is bloody poor.
So we played better last night so what? Jesus bloody wept the standard of the previous two performances I should have expected 11 gibbons to have played better.
Whats the big deal in 'hitting the post' 'missing a sitter' so what? it's not bad luck hitting the post how about not hitting the post but hitting the back of the net.
Unlike most I don't believe we are a good team, we are where we deserve to be in the bottom half of the Championship as our points tally from the last 40 games dictate.
Probably be the same again next season. |  |
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| Warburton in denial on 10:21 - Jul 1 with 2886 views | rsonist |
| Warburton in denial on 08:54 - Jul 1 by switchingcode |
Get used to it he’s full of them “we will learn” “plan B is you get plan A right”he had his best years at Brentford where he took over a good side managed by Uwe Rosler plus a great recruitment Team that he rejected.I often wonder what he must be thinking when he sees the team he has set up get ripped apart by the club he rejected as an unacceptable system to work in.His time at Forrest although only 9 months but around the same amount of games was better and they got rid.I bet he doesn’t survive till Christmas you have gone backwards from those heady days when you were 1 win from going second earlier in the season and 5 points ahead of us. |
You lot love to pretend the Dijkhuizen stats season immediately after he left didn't happen. Warbs and Benham both had valid arguments in their split, you only got it right after learning from getting it wrong. |  | | |
| Warburton in denial on 10:26 - Jul 1 with 2868 views | gazza1 |
Much better performance last night. Tough call if they were better than us but I, perhaps, think they were - just.
Warburton has been honest and mostly is unless it is not right, for personal player reasons, to be vague - thats the way it is and they way it should be.
Last night the goalkeeper blew it for us, the first, 100%, he should have saved it, the shot for the 2nd goal should have been shut down much, much better but I am not sure if the keeper, again, could have done better - not sure.
We are a decent side when we play and have all our 'top boys' in the team, much better than we have been over the last few years - much better to watch, win, loose or draw for sure.
As for a 'good' team....no we are not but we are better than I league position suggests. [Post edited 1 Jul 2020 10:28]
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| Warburton in denial on 10:26 - Jul 1 with 2868 views | daveB |
| Warburton in denial on 09:46 - Jul 1 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
They came back half-arsed, I don't care what excuses/ reasons they come up with, it was no different for Barnsley/ Charlton.
The difference being Barnsley/ Charlton prepare and put a shift in. [Post edited 1 Jul 2020 9:49]
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I don't buy that.
We've had a mad 3 months in the world, none of us know what any of these players have gone through. If they had family members or friends affected, those players whose partners gave birth we don't know the worry and stress they had to go through,what complications they faced. We don't know the impact mentally on the players being stuck at home for 3 months, possibly on their own away from friends and family. Like most people they had a lot of time to reflect and think about what was important to them, with all that going on it's not a shock to see a few of them not 100% focused.
You then have the new way they all work, no team meetings together, no real contact other than on the training pitch, most of the things they love about their job gone. No encouragement on a match day from fans, no hearing boos and moans and wanting to prove them wrong, not even in the same changing room as half your team mates.
Of course you may be right and they had a lovely old time and came back half arsed but after all that's happened I find it astonishing how quickly fans have turned on players and manager due to them having 2 poor performances after all that has gone on and for them to have been expected to just carry on as if nothing had happened.
These are not excuses by the way or why we lost these 3 games, every club has to go through this and some have adapted a lot better than others but I do think we should have a bit of understanding that none of this is normal. You'd think the way some have reacted that this side would never have lost a game or put in a sub par performance before. Even in that 6 game mini run we were not that great against Birmingham or Forest and had an awful start against Stoke and Preston. | | | |
| Warburton in denial on 10:26 - Jul 1 with 2862 views | switchingcode |
| Warburton in denial on 09:26 - Jul 1 by CliveWilsonSaid |
So do you think Warburton would still be at Brentford if he hadn't rejected your recruitment system?
Highly unlikely I'd have thought.
He doesn't strike me as someone who has too many regrets in life. He's got himself a very difficult job here at QPR and might well be gone before Christmas like you say. Still that's a lot longer than most of them last 😂 |
He has admitted in recent interviews that it was his decision to leave shame he didn’t tell that to the press instead of the nonsense put about tha Benham wanted to pick the ream ect supported by the likes of Arry calling us a basket case of a club,the irony.I can’t guarantee that he would have stayed as he might have moved to another club but I’m sure he wouldn’t have been sacked. | | | |
| Warburton in denial on 10:27 - Jul 1 with 2863 views | ManinBlack |
Yes we can blame being grounded for losing momentum and form and not being ready for the resumption. I do feel that being safe has contributed to our sluggish return plus Warburton is not a motivator to get our players at it.
However Wigan had gone 6 games unbeaten and Luton three games without defeat before the enforced break. Both have returned and carried on where they left off extending their unbeaten runs to 9 and 6 respectively. Charlton and Barnsley have come back focused on the job in hand. There is no doubt that being in relegation danger has got these clubs at it like having a fresh start. I believe we would have been better prepared for the restart if we had resumed on 42 points.
One club that appears to be sleepwalking to relegation is Stoke as they have been as bad as us since the resumption. |  | | |
| Warburton in denial on 10:28 - Jul 1 with 2856 views | francisbowles |
| Warburton in denial on 10:16 - Jul 1 by ted_hendrix |
Barnsley then Charlton then Fulham, prior to the Barnsley game you'd have looked at those three fixtures and with all due respect to those three clubs you'd have expected a minimum of three points and we've ended up with nothing which IMO is bloody poor.
So we played better last night so what? Jesus bloody wept the standard of the previous two performances I should have expected 11 gibbons to have played better.
Whats the big deal in 'hitting the post' 'missing a sitter' so what? it's not bad luck hitting the post how about not hitting the post but hitting the back of the net.
Unlike most I don't believe we are a good team, we are where we deserve to be in the bottom half of the Championship as our points tally from the last 40 games dictate.
Probably be the same again next season. |
Yes, your're probably right. Frustrating that for all the ability in the side our game is still littered with mistakes and many times mistakes being repeated.
You have to get the best out of what you have. Some players can usually play the ball relatively calmly and controlled out from the back. Manning, Barbet, Kelly, Ball etc. But some can't and shouldn't try. Cameron makes interception beats player tries to beat a second whilst losing control of the ball......just boot it. | | | |
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