| QPR Social Bubbles Info 10:22 - Sep 18 with 8382 views | daveB |
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/social-bubbles-information-202021/
pick the bones out of this one, I am probably completely wrong here but it reads to me like you need to form a social bubble group which is who you will sit with at games.
Those people must live in the same house as you or be in your support bubble so I wouldn't be able to pick 5 mates to sit with but I could go with someone I have regular contact with such as my Dad.
You need to register your bubble by next Friday to give the club a chance to plan where everyone will sit in the stadium, you can also pick your preference for which stand you want to be in although won't be guaranteed that.
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| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 14:07 - Sep 18 with 2079 views | PinnerPaul |
At least the single person bubble bit was painless!
As someone said above though, with new restrictions being considered from next week, which may range from pubs shutting early to another lockdown, I feel, sadly, this may all be a bit academic! |  | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 14:07 - Sep 18 with 2079 views | NorthantsHoop |
Until the final guidance comes out on the balloting, the forming of social bubbles and the implications for the refund and ticket applications for those bubbles needs a little more clarity in terms of does the bubble always have to apply for tickets as a unit each time, can bubble members be left out for games they cannot attend i.e. what if they live in an area that has gone into lockdown or have to self isolate and they cannot attend, will they through no fault of their own lose a right to a 1/23 refund. I would hope that the balloting process will be flexible enough to add and delete bubble members on a per game basis?
I have discussed this with my mate who attends, we were considering forming a joint social bubble, but as I live 60 miles from London whilst he lives in Harrow , we feel single registration gives more flexibility in case of lockdowns, mid week games etc. |  | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 14:20 - Sep 18 with 2056 views | NW5Hoop |
It would be nice if the address to register your bubble actually worked. Has anyone succeeded in registering their bubble? | | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 14:55 - Sep 18 with 2018 views | kensalriser |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 13:07 - Sep 18 by Northernr |
I'm actually happy to embrace that bit. I've only sat in two bits of Loftus Road in my life so it could be fun to spend a few games getting shuffled around a bit. |
Subject to Simmo's caveat, highly recommended. You will literally view the game from an entirely different angle. |  |
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| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 15:46 - Sep 18 with 1984 views | PinnerPaul |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 14:20 - Sep 18 by NW5Hoop |
It would be nice if the address to register your bubble actually worked. Has anyone succeeded in registering their bubble? |
See above - yes I have.
Don't forget you have to log in twice in effect - once to get into the site and then again into your ticketing account.
Open the step by step guide in another window and follow it that way - believe me if Nokia owner (I kid you not!) me can do it - anyone can!  | | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 16:00 - Sep 18 with 1965 views | HantsR |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 13:07 - Sep 18 by Northernr |
I'm actually happy to embrace that bit. I've only sat in two bits of Loftus Road in my life so it could be fun to spend a few games getting shuffled around a bit. |
If it's you Norf, I'm very happy to let you sit in my treasured seat, but in general, surely Season Ticket holders should have first choice in the block they already pay extra dosh for, like I do in C Block SAR? Anyway, I'm registered in a social bubble of 1 so let's see what happens... |  | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 16:41 - Sep 18 with 1929 views | PinnerPaul |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 16:00 - Sep 18 by HantsR |
If it's you Norf, I'm very happy to let you sit in my treasured seat, but in general, surely Season Ticket holders should have first choice in the block they already pay extra dosh for, like I do in C Block SAR? Anyway, I'm registered in a social bubble of 1 so let's see what happens... |
Me too - its quite nice, no one is going to disagree with you or call you out for whatever gibberish I come up with while watching! | | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 17:08 - Sep 18 with 1912 views | Rog |
The planning of what seats to use, what not to use, who goes where, how they make sure the right seats are used and people don't just sit where they please and then how they get in/out is going to be complicated enough without having to deal with seat/block preferences.
There will be unhappy people whatever they do but managing expectations has never been a strong point for our lot ;-) We need to be very patient with it, they'll be doing their best I'm sure, and at least with our first home game being on 21st they might learn more from other clubs experiences in October. All based on the assumption we will not be locked down again. | | | |
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| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 18:57 - Sep 18 with 1844 views | WatfordR |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 11:10 - Sep 18 by ted_hendrix |
Must be a logistical and financial nightmare for the club let alone supporters.
No match day cash coming in from walk ups.
To tell the truth I cant see supporters being in football grounds anytime soon with the current infection rate rising daily.
This Covid-19 is a bastard bitch. |
My work requirements have meant for many years that the only way I could attend was as a walk up, often only being able to take a decision to go with a couple of hours notice, so I've understood and accepted a while back that attending a Rangers game is going to be impossible for the foreseeable.
That said, I cannot for the life of me understand the attraction of being one of a few thousand fans in an otherwise empty stadium with virtually no atmosphere, presumably almost no facilities (food, drink etc), limited ability to have a pre or post match beer with other fans etc etc.
I know there are some who want to be at games at almost any cost, but there is supposed to be an element of entertainment and excitement involved in events like a football match. Where the f@ck is the enjoyment in such a sanitised event?
I'm not just talking about football of course. Other sports events, concerts will all be subject to similar restrictions. Are we destined to live a joyless life for years to come? It all brings to mind an image of Russian peasants living in the Soviet Union all huddled round a cauldron of borscht.
Maybe it's just been a bad week. |  | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 21:52 - Sep 18 with 1792 views | loftboy |
Social bubble hey, well our attacking midfielders maintained social distancing from our forward very well tonight |  |
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| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 22:14 - Sep 18 with 1773 views | wombat |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 21:52 - Sep 18 by loftboy |
Social bubble hey, well our attacking midfielders maintained social distancing from our forward very well tonight |
Read it all and understood it I think but one thing hasn’t been considered , if they are going to move you around the ground . From game to game are they going to sanitise each seat used ? Lot of people are now saying the virus lives a lot longer than the first thought , so play sat infect your area somebody else moved into your seat for the next game in weds etc etc , if They have bubbles of people surely it’s easier to say right this is your group of seats . But they can’t do that because of the stupid ballot system in place |  |
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| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 10:33 - Sep 21 with 1692 views | connell10 |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 22:14 - Sep 18 by wombat |
Read it all and understood it I think but one thing hasn’t been considered , if they are going to move you around the ground . From game to game are they going to sanitise each seat used ? Lot of people are now saying the virus lives a lot longer than the first thought , so play sat infect your area somebody else moved into your seat for the next game in weds etc etc , if They have bubbles of people surely it’s easier to say right this is your group of seats . But they can’t do that because of the stupid ballot system in place |
Way its going no one will see a game live this side of Christmas! |  |
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| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 10:39 - Sep 21 with 1680 views | daveB |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 22:14 - Sep 18 by wombat |
Read it all and understood it I think but one thing hasn’t been considered , if they are going to move you around the ground . From game to game are they going to sanitise each seat used ? Lot of people are now saying the virus lives a lot longer than the first thought , so play sat infect your area somebody else moved into your seat for the next game in weds etc etc , if They have bubbles of people surely it’s easier to say right this is your group of seats . But they can’t do that because of the stupid ballot system in place |
Yes thats part of the process to have a covid secure venue, you do a deep clean after anyone has been in, same in an office if you sit on a desk that desk get a clean that night so is safe for you the following day | | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 10:54 - Sep 21 with 1654 views | francisbowles |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 10:39 - Sep 21 by daveB |
Yes thats part of the process to have a covid secure venue, you do a deep clean after anyone has been in, same in an office if you sit on a desk that desk get a clean that night so is safe for you the following day |
I would still be inclined to take some wipes along and pay particular attention to the sides of the seat. Not saying I don't trust cleaners but when it is en masse, it tends to be a bit rushed! | | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 12:33 - Sep 21 with 1610 views | TopCat34 |
I took it to mean you could have a bubble of people of your choosing, as long as there were not more than six of you. I added myself and three other people to a bubble no issues applying, I'm sure they will come back to me if that's not allowed.
Not arsed where I sit. I did get a headache from reading the world bubble so many times though. |  | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 12:37 - Sep 21 with 1599 views | Northernr |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 12:33 - Sep 21 by TopCat34 |
I took it to mean you could have a bubble of people of your choosing, as long as there were not more than six of you. I added myself and three other people to a bubble no issues applying, I'm sure they will come back to me if that's not allowed.
Not arsed where I sit. I did get a headache from reading the world bubble so many times though. |
It's also not meant to be from more than two households but they won't/can't police that I don't think.
All academic after tomorrow I suspect. |  | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 12:59 - Sep 21 with 1553 views | FrankRightguard |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 12:37 - Sep 21 by Northernr |
It's also not meant to be from more than two households but they won't/can't police that I don't think.
All academic after tomorrow I suspect. |
Surely they’ll just use your address from the database. If it’s more than two addresses you’ve exceeded the bubble parameters. |  | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 13:15 - Sep 21 with 1535 views | Northernr |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 12:59 - Sep 21 by FrankRightguard |
Surely they’ll just use your address from the database. If it’s more than two addresses you’ve exceeded the bubble parameters. |
Ok they could do that. I'm told by people who've already registered theirs that it didn't stop them when they filled the form in with more than two addresses. And let's say you register as four from one house, then you rock up with four people on matchday but actually two other people from elsewhere have picked up spares off you, how is that checked and enforced? You're not realistically going to have everybody getting ID and utility bills checked at the turnstil are you? | | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 13:19 - Sep 21 with 1529 views | JamieNaz |
I think that it's technically been limited to two housefolds the whole time?
It's just not possible to actually enforce that.
But as it's part of the current legislation the club and everyone else has to attempt to stick to it.
Just another one of the crystal clear legislations in place. | | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 16:23 - Sep 21 with 1449 views | Cliff |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 13:19 - Sep 21 by JamieNaz |
I think that it's technically been limited to two housefolds the whole time?
It's just not possible to actually enforce that.
But as it's part of the current legislation the club and everyone else has to attempt to stick to it.
Just another one of the crystal clear legislations in place. |
I agree with this, the social bubbles are defined by the governments guidelines and have been limited to 2 households for a while now. Enforcement is the issue.
You cannot realistically expect QPR to check the validity of the social bubbles people register with them. Similarly the police can be on every train, in every supermarket, etc. enforcing the regulations there either - although I would welcome then doing a bit more.
The problem is this is one of the measures introduced in an attempt to meet two contradictory objectives; firstly to cut Covid transmission by limiting social interaction, and secondly allowing people to get on with normal living as much as possible. Stop anyone meeting, outside of their immediate household and you will be strong on objective 1, but will really mess up with peoples lives. Allow people to mix freely and objective 2 is met, but Covid transmission will be unchecked.
The compromise is to allow people to freely mix with those that are most important to them, and to be isolated as much as possible everywhere else. Hence the bubbles. Since this policy is difficult to enforce it is left to us as individuals to act upon the recommendations or not. If everyone ignores it and mixes freely the only alternatives are stronger enforcement, which is difficult, of to introduce tighter restrictions which is what looks like what is going to happen.
I'm not trying to be judgemental here, just saying if we as a society continue to breach any rules introduced then those rules are likely to fail, and when they fail new tougher rules are the most likely outcome. |  | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 16:32 - Sep 21 with 1430 views | Northernr |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 16:23 - Sep 21 by Cliff |
I agree with this, the social bubbles are defined by the governments guidelines and have been limited to 2 households for a while now. Enforcement is the issue.
You cannot realistically expect QPR to check the validity of the social bubbles people register with them. Similarly the police can be on every train, in every supermarket, etc. enforcing the regulations there either - although I would welcome then doing a bit more.
The problem is this is one of the measures introduced in an attempt to meet two contradictory objectives; firstly to cut Covid transmission by limiting social interaction, and secondly allowing people to get on with normal living as much as possible. Stop anyone meeting, outside of their immediate household and you will be strong on objective 1, but will really mess up with peoples lives. Allow people to mix freely and objective 2 is met, but Covid transmission will be unchecked.
The compromise is to allow people to freely mix with those that are most important to them, and to be isolated as much as possible everywhere else. Hence the bubbles. Since this policy is difficult to enforce it is left to us as individuals to act upon the recommendations or not. If everyone ignores it and mixes freely the only alternatives are stronger enforcement, which is difficult, of to introduce tighter restrictions which is what looks like what is going to happen.
I'm not trying to be judgemental here, just saying if we as a society continue to breach any rules introduced then those rules are likely to fail, and when they fail new tougher rules are the most likely outcome. |
And trying not to move it off into the political realms of the Covid thread, this is why it's so, so, so important for the people setting the rules to be absolutely squeeky clean themselves, not going around saying "we're only breaking the law in a very specific and targeted way" and letting Cummings off Scot free for his tour of the north east.
Because the whole thing relies on buy in from the public. It's completely unenforceable and impossible to police, so you're relying on people being decent about it, and by and large I think this country was during the first lockdown.
No though the rules are so contradictory - I see Hancock's latest gem is that the elderly are exempt from local lockdowns if they're needed for childcare so people can still go to the office - and the government have been so dodgy with it themselves that people are inclined to say "fck it" and play whataboutery. If Cummings can behave as he behaved, then I can go to Croydon Box Park and watch Crystal Palace, I can sit with seven of my mates in the pub not six, I can go in a group of four to QPR even though we live in three houses and so on.
You can't do one rule for one and one for another, you can't have all these weird and wonderful contradictions and exemptions, because ppl will just say "bolox to you" if you try and impinge on their freedoms. They'll just say well if that's ok, then this is ok. | | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 16:56 - Sep 21 with 1383 views | TopCat34 |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 16:32 - Sep 21 by Northernr |
And trying not to move it off into the political realms of the Covid thread, this is why it's so, so, so important for the people setting the rules to be absolutely squeeky clean themselves, not going around saying "we're only breaking the law in a very specific and targeted way" and letting Cummings off Scot free for his tour of the north east.
Because the whole thing relies on buy in from the public. It's completely unenforceable and impossible to police, so you're relying on people being decent about it, and by and large I think this country was during the first lockdown.
No though the rules are so contradictory - I see Hancock's latest gem is that the elderly are exempt from local lockdowns if they're needed for childcare so people can still go to the office - and the government have been so dodgy with it themselves that people are inclined to say "fck it" and play whataboutery. If Cummings can behave as he behaved, then I can go to Croydon Box Park and watch Crystal Palace, I can sit with seven of my mates in the pub not six, I can go in a group of four to QPR even though we live in three houses and so on.
You can't do one rule for one and one for another, you can't have all these weird and wonderful contradictions and exemptions, because ppl will just say "bolox to you" if you try and impinge on their freedoms. They'll just say well if that's ok, then this is ok. |
Fully agreed. Admittedly, it wasn't even an attempt to try and break the guidelines - I quite literally just didn't understand them.
The contradictions and the general messaging has been so poor. Pub I was in recently spent a lot of time explaining all their regulations, rushing over if nyone was standing up for more than 3 seconds. Meanwhile there's a stag group of 15 behind us and a group of 8 behind them? But if you stand up or go the wrong way to the smoking area you're spreading COVID. I don't blame the pub, they are following what they think are the rules, but the problem is they don't actually know so they are winging it. Same applies to these rules for the football.
As above though, its all pointless because based on everything I've read today I cannot see how they'll keep going with these pilots any time soon. [Post edited 21 Sep 2020 16:57]
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| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 17:54 - Sep 21 with 1333 views | Devon_4_England |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 16:56 - Sep 21 by TopCat34 |
Fully agreed. Admittedly, it wasn't even an attempt to try and break the guidelines - I quite literally just didn't understand them.
The contradictions and the general messaging has been so poor. Pub I was in recently spent a lot of time explaining all their regulations, rushing over if nyone was standing up for more than 3 seconds. Meanwhile there's a stag group of 15 behind us and a group of 8 behind them? But if you stand up or go the wrong way to the smoking area you're spreading COVID. I don't blame the pub, they are following what they think are the rules, but the problem is they don't actually know so they are winging it. Same applies to these rules for the football.
As above though, its all pointless because based on everything I've read today I cannot see how they'll keep going with these pilots any time soon. [Post edited 21 Sep 2020 16:57]
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Many venues adopting digital ticketing for these restricted capacity games so mobile tickets for ST holders will be the preferred option I’d imagine. ST cards won’t work if seats are different each game. |  | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 18:47 - Sep 21 with 1293 views | essextaxiboy |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 13:07 - Sep 18 by Northernr |
I'm actually happy to embrace that bit. I've only sat in two bits of Loftus Road in my life so it could be fun to spend a few games getting shuffled around a bit. |
Normally in F Block we have put the Ellerslie as our 2nd choice . Looking forward to that as I had my first ST over there |  | | |
| QPR Social Bubbles Info on 19:08 - Sep 21 with 1267 views | NorthantsHoop |
I am starting to believe that events are taking over and that fans won't be allowed into grounds any time soon. I can't see the government sanctioning crowds, as the Covid cases rise and more restrictive actions will be needed to control the virus. There is a sense of deja vu about this at the moment. | | | |
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