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Qatar 2022 15:33 - Feb 28 with 8540 viewstraininvain

I’m curious to see how England and other nations can justify participating in this day and age with players taking the knee for Black Lives Matter, rainbow laces campaign etc.

We’re talking about a country where 6,500 migrant workers have died during the construction of new stadia and facilities for the World Cup. A country where it’s still illegal to be gay.

It’ll be interesting to see how this all plays out and i won’t be holding my breath but t’ll feel a bit hypocritical to have players taking the knee every week or wearing rainbow laces while national teams gear up to participate in a tournament held in a country which has issues with such basic human rights.

Anyone think we should or shouldn’t be bothering with this tournament?
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Qatar 2022 on 15:41 - Feb 28 with 4667 viewsCLAREMAN1995

There is no way this country should have been awarded that WC in the first place .Once the corruption was uncovered at FIFA they should have pulled it out and awarded it to whatever country got pushed aside by the cash envelopes or truck loads of money Qatar gave IMO.
That was way before all the poor migrants started dying in that oppressive heat and unsafe conditions .
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Qatar 2022 on 15:41 - Feb 28 with 4665 viewsLongsufferingR

Money
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Qatar 2022 on 15:52 - Feb 28 with 4625 viewsted_hendrix

I've been reading about this for an awful long time, I know that Amnesty International have been investigating certain H&S issues and those poor migrant workers who don't get paid on time (if at all) reports are sent out to Governing bodies and nothing gets done.

It's evil what has been going on out there and its still happening but the powers to be don't give a toss about human life.

Marble.
Gold.
Comfy TV studios.
Viewing figures.

Watch it if you have too, I wont.

Blood money.

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Qatar 2022 on 15:53 - Feb 28 with 4619 viewsStanisgod

Qatar 2022 on 15:41 - Feb 28 by CLAREMAN1995

There is no way this country should have been awarded that WC in the first place .Once the corruption was uncovered at FIFA they should have pulled it out and awarded it to whatever country got pushed aside by the cash envelopes or truck loads of money Qatar gave IMO.
That was way before all the poor migrants started dying in that oppressive heat and unsafe conditions .


Precisely, as soon as the corruption came out, should have been taken away.

But then again the corruption is still there. FIFA.

It's being so happy that keeps me going.

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Qatar 2022 on 15:53 - Feb 28 with 4614 viewsloftboy

If one worker dies on a site over here there would be major investigations and recriminations, how can they justify that many, it’s horrendous.

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Qatar 2022 on 16:04 - Feb 28 with 4589 viewsJamesB1979

It would take real guts for an International player to refuse to play in the World Cup. And dare I say, have a lot more impact than taking a knee. 6,500 dead according to the Guardian. Shocking and I feel that the taking the knee in sport in Europe and US, isn’t really aimed at them at all.
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Qatar 2022 on 16:05 - Feb 28 with 4586 viewsdixiedean

All the crap they give out about football being a global game is tosh . Ridiculous compromises needed in major leagues to make it even feasible. Of course there’s nothing to stop individual football associations withdrawing, or for that matter individual players. But we all know that won’t happen because football is fundamentally amoral .
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Qatar 2022 on 16:07 - Feb 28 with 4573 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Our governments have sold them over £300m worth of weapons so they can bomb Libya, Yemen, Iran, and Syria into human jam so I doubt they’d worry about a football tournament.

I got close family working out there on the World Cup and will probably attend so perhaps I shouldn’t be so self righteous, but there you go.

https://aoav.org.uk/2018/uk-arms-exports-to-qatar/
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Qatar 2022 on 16:11 - Feb 28 with 4549 viewsJamesB1979

Qatar 2022 on 16:07 - Feb 28 by BazzaInTheLoft

Our governments have sold them over £300m worth of weapons so they can bomb Libya, Yemen, Iran, and Syria into human jam so I doubt they’d worry about a football tournament.

I got close family working out there on the World Cup and will probably attend so perhaps I shouldn’t be so self righteous, but there you go.

https://aoav.org.uk/2018/uk-arms-exports-to-qatar/


I don’t think governments should get involved in football tournaments. Should be the FA and the players that makes the decision.
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Qatar 2022 on 16:14 - Feb 28 with 4528 viewstimcocking

Well exactly, fcuking hypocrites.
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Qatar 2022 on 16:18 - Feb 28 with 4526 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Qatar 2022 on 16:11 - Feb 28 by JamesB1979

I don’t think governments should get involved in football tournaments. Should be the FA and the players that makes the decision.


Geoff Cameron will win the 100m and Tom Carroll Mr Universe before the FA condemn Qatar:

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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/14/fa-qatar-friendlies-england-par
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Qatar 2022 on 16:24 - Feb 28 with 4510 viewskensalriser

It's repulsive. FIFA seems to be on mission to support the world's vilest regimes.

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Qatar 2022 on 16:42 - Feb 28 with 4469 viewsEsox_Lucius

I have no interest in watching it and would be delighted if England refused to go. I would also like to see Formula One removing a venue or two where the Human Rights of people are ignored.

The grass is always greener.

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Qatar 2022 on 17:01 - Feb 28 with 4427 viewshantssi

Doubt I’ll watch it for a variety of reasons including all of the above.
Should have been Australia, would have been their winter.
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Qatar 2022 on 17:12 - Feb 28 with 4399 viewstraininvain

Qatar 2022 on 16:11 - Feb 28 by JamesB1979

I don’t think governments should get involved in football tournaments. Should be the FA and the players that makes the decision.


Exactly. Let’s leave politics out of this as we all know the direction this thread will go.

Back to the point. I wonder if Sterling, Kane or someone of a similar calibre will have the bottle to take a stand when it counts.

We’ve heard plenty over the last 12 months about Black Lives Matter and rightly so. But what about the migrants dying from slave labour or the way homosexuals and women are treated in Qatar.

Are we going to ignore all of that because it’s inconvenient or will our footballers (and fans) make a real sacrifice to try and create positive change in the world.
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Qatar 2022 on 17:52 - Feb 28 with 4342 viewsdistortR

Qatar 2022 on 16:24 - Feb 28 by kensalriser

It's repulsive. FIFA seems to be on mission to support the world's vilest regimes.


yeah, and we've hosted saudi cup finals, vile rulers, but...



money talks
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Qatar 2022 on 18:48 - Feb 28 with 4229 viewsBoston

Nothing of significance will happen, not when we're entering the post Covid money shuffling era for the western economies. Anyway there's an elephant over in the right hand corner, 'allo me old China.

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Qatar 2022 on 18:49 - Feb 28 with 4218 viewspaulparker

China hosted an Olympics with a brutal human rights record
AJ fought a heavyweight fight in Saudi and coined a right few Bob
Same as F1
Why should football be any different ?
Football ceased being about the fans around 1992 it’s a business and there is sod all we can do about it now

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

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Qatar 2022 on 19:33 - Feb 28 with 4153 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Qatar 2022 on 18:49 - Feb 28 by paulparker

China hosted an Olympics with a brutal human rights record
AJ fought a heavyweight fight in Saudi and coined a right few Bob
Same as F1
Why should football be any different ?
Football ceased being about the fans around 1992 it’s a business and there is sod all we can do about it now


Agree with everything except that it didn’t happen pre ‘92.

Off the top of my head there was a World Cup in junta run Argentina in ‘78
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Qatar 2022 on 20:07 - Feb 28 with 4104 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Qatar 2022 on 19:33 - Feb 28 by BazzaInTheLoft

Agree with everything except that it didn’t happen pre ‘92.

Off the top of my head there was a World Cup in junta run Argentina in ‘78


Yep.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/in-bed-with-maradona/2017/jul/05/1978-world

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Qatar 2022 on 00:27 - Mar 1 with 3927 viewskensalriser

And not forgetting the 1936 Nazi olympics.

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Qatar 2022 on 07:11 - Mar 1 with 3847 viewsPaddyhoops

If a conglomerate put together a bid for Death Valley to host the world cup , FIFA would accept it the money was good enough.
They don't care, they've never cared!!
Lives mean nothing to them, small speed bumps on the road to even further riches.
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Qatar 2022 on 12:47 - Mar 3 with 3549 viewsPlanetHonneywood

If only migrant workers in Qatar had someone from our LFW community to help them...


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Qatar 2022 on 12:56 - Mar 3 with 3504 viewsBoston

Qatar 2022 on 12:47 - Mar 3 by PlanetHonneywood

If only migrant workers in Qatar had someone from our LFW community to help them...



Pro Bono?

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Qatar 2022 on 13:11 - Mar 3 with 3464 viewsPlanetHonneywood

Qatar 2022 on 12:56 - Mar 3 by Boston

Pro Bono?


And the Edge, Larry and Adam!

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