| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? 23:10 - Mar 7 with 9274 views | bosh67 |
Another 2 goals for the U23s. Still only 18. Raw but a serious unit with talent. You never know, he could hit the ground running.
Given that Charlie is unwell, Dykes is injured we only have Gray as an out and out forward. Armstrong is very highly rated so why not blood him or put him on the bench V Luton if Gray remains the only fit striker. [Post edited 7 Mar 2022 23:10]
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| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 12:05 - Mar 8 with 2692 views | sdm19994 |
Give him 10/20 mins off the bench this weekend if only one fit striker. Least we’ll then have an idea if he can do a job at this level. |  | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 12:09 - Mar 8 with 2674 views | wortonranger |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 11:59 - Mar 8 by toboboly |
Blood him? I want a full human sacrifice pre-match to appease the gods |
I’ve been watching the latest series of Vikings on Netflix and that’s what happened to a young guy. I think he went on to play for Valhalla. Hard to see how he did because the seats are up in the Gods.Sadly, I fear that those of us who see him as our salvation may be in Cloud Cuckoo land! |  | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 12:37 - Mar 8 with 2604 views | PlanetHonneywood |
If/when there’s nothing to play for, then give him a run out when the pressure is off.
It should show him where he is in our thinking/plans and if he’s poached, will boost our compensation claims accordingly. |  |
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| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 17:52 - Mar 8 with 2419 views | derbyhoop |
The answer to OP is probably not.
But if we don't trust the management to know more about him than the fans, when will we ever learn.
He's supposed to be big with pace, but very raw. I'm sure MW will give him a shot when he's ready. |  |
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| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 19:08 - Mar 8 with 2324 views | 1JD |
Seen him play on approx 10 occasions. Bit of a misnomer that he’s a big unit. He’s around 6 foot. A decent size, but not particularly tall. Hamzad Kargo is the unit - 6”5. And Sean Adarkwa, 6”3, who is another u23 who has been injured long term (seem to have had a lot of bad injuries this season)
Armstrong has good upper body build, with a slight lower half. He’s absolutely rapid. BOS-like pace. Other positive attributes;
- he’s got great movement off the shoulder; always active and looking for it played in behind
- can pick up and run with the ball and is direct; not too dissimilar to a a certain trait of Les Ferdinand’s, similar build and size also
- good pressing and workrate
Things he needs to work on;
- needs improvement with his back to goal game, doesn’t really exist
- likewise when the ball played up to him in the air, needs to jump and get involved more to ruffle up defenders, make it hard for them, and on occasion win some knock downs
He’s got some great attributes and is definitely talented. A bit raw but to be expected. Would make an interesting foil for Dykes. I’d like to see 10 minutes here and there, if only for the electric pace and movement offered. It would give teams something to think about in the closing stages of games, especially if we are chasing. Only got 1 year left on his deal. Agent seems a pain in the backside. |  | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 20:16 - Mar 8 with 2228 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 19:08 - Mar 8 by 1JD |
Seen him play on approx 10 occasions. Bit of a misnomer that he’s a big unit. He’s around 6 foot. A decent size, but not particularly tall. Hamzad Kargo is the unit - 6”5. And Sean Adarkwa, 6”3, who is another u23 who has been injured long term (seem to have had a lot of bad injuries this season)
Armstrong has good upper body build, with a slight lower half. He’s absolutely rapid. BOS-like pace. Other positive attributes;
- he’s got great movement off the shoulder; always active and looking for it played in behind
- can pick up and run with the ball and is direct; not too dissimilar to a a certain trait of Les Ferdinand’s, similar build and size also
- good pressing and workrate
Things he needs to work on;
- needs improvement with his back to goal game, doesn’t really exist
- likewise when the ball played up to him in the air, needs to jump and get involved more to ruffle up defenders, make it hard for them, and on occasion win some knock downs
He’s got some great attributes and is definitely talented. A bit raw but to be expected. Would make an interesting foil for Dykes. I’d like to see 10 minutes here and there, if only for the electric pace and movement offered. It would give teams something to think about in the closing stages of games, especially if we are chasing. Only got 1 year left on his deal. Agent seems a pain in the backside. |
Thanks for the insight: I’ve seen him play 2 or 3 times and agree with your views.
For those saying keep him away from the first team I would say we are so short of forwards at the moment what have we got to lose by putting him on the bench and certainly bring him on if we need to push for a goal? It’s madness to go into any game with no forwards on the pitch or on the bench: it doesn’t work unless you have regular goal scoring midfielders playing well and we certainly do not have this at the moment.
Warburton needs to take a chance with Armstrong: he’s got nothing to lose at the moment considering how poorly we are playing and the results we are getting. |  | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 20:58 - Mar 8 with 2180 views | 1JD |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 20:16 - Mar 8 by Ned_Kennedys |
Thanks for the insight: I’ve seen him play 2 or 3 times and agree with your views.
For those saying keep him away from the first team I would say we are so short of forwards at the moment what have we got to lose by putting him on the bench and certainly bring him on if we need to push for a goal? It’s madness to go into any game with no forwards on the pitch or on the bench: it doesn’t work unless you have regular goal scoring midfielders playing well and we certainly do not have this at the moment.
Warburton needs to take a chance with Armstrong: he’s got nothing to lose at the moment considering how poorly we are playing and the results we are getting. |
On a separate but related note, I think our u23/B team is as weak as it’s been for some time, which likely explains the lack of promoted players into first team football.
I personally find this concerning, since most of the championship are not only blooding youngsters, but they are significantly impressing, and generating assets. The entire league is looking at youth as a means for sustainability. We are far from alone and seem to have fallen behind.
Despite the club and Warburton continuously saying we have a “young team”, it’s a bit of a stretch. Our youngest players are 24! Chair, Willock, Dunne are all 24. Meanwhile, here is a sample of up and coming young players in the championship- all regularly making the bench or starting games and impressing;
Rubin Colwill - Striker, 19, Cardiff
Isaac Davies - Striker, 20, Cardiff
Joel Bagan - Left Wing Back, 20, Cardiff
Jobe Bellingham - Midfielder, 16, Brum
Jordan James - Midfielder, 17, Brum
Josh Coburn - Striker, 19, Boro
Isiah Jones - Winger, 22, Boro
Marcus Tavernier - Midfielder, 22, Boro
Alex Scott - Midfielder, 18
Sam Bell - Forward, 19, Bristol City
Tommy Conway - Forward, 19, Bristol City
Han Noah Massengo - Midfielder, 20, Bristol City
George Tanner - Full Back, 22 [Post edited 8 Mar 2022 21:24]
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| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 22:38 - Mar 8 with 2035 views | RangersDave |
simply put, if you have nothing, anything you then have is better, nes pa? |  |
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| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 07:26 - Mar 9 with 1937 views | dmm |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 20:58 - Mar 8 by 1JD |
On a separate but related note, I think our u23/B team is as weak as it’s been for some time, which likely explains the lack of promoted players into first team football.
I personally find this concerning, since most of the championship are not only blooding youngsters, but they are significantly impressing, and generating assets. The entire league is looking at youth as a means for sustainability. We are far from alone and seem to have fallen behind.
Despite the club and Warburton continuously saying we have a “young team”, it’s a bit of a stretch. Our youngest players are 24! Chair, Willock, Dunne are all 24. Meanwhile, here is a sample of up and coming young players in the championship- all regularly making the bench or starting games and impressing;
Rubin Colwill - Striker, 19, Cardiff
Isaac Davies - Striker, 20, Cardiff
Joel Bagan - Left Wing Back, 20, Cardiff
Jobe Bellingham - Midfielder, 16, Brum
Jordan James - Midfielder, 17, Brum
Josh Coburn - Striker, 19, Boro
Isiah Jones - Winger, 22, Boro
Marcus Tavernier - Midfielder, 22, Boro
Alex Scott - Midfielder, 18
Sam Bell - Forward, 19, Bristol City
Tommy Conway - Forward, 19, Bristol City
Han Noah Massengo - Midfielder, 20, Bristol City
George Tanner - Full Back, 22 [Post edited 8 Mar 2022 21:24]
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1JD - do you see potential in any of our current 23s such as Duke-McKenna, Bettache and Gubbins?
I've also thought Drewe and Mahorn have shown some promise. |  | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 10:02 - Mar 9 with 1846 views | 1JD |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 07:26 - Mar 9 by dmm |
1JD - do you see potential in any of our current 23s such as Duke-McKenna, Bettache and Gubbins?
I've also thought Drewe and Mahorn have shown some promise. |
Duke-Mckenna and Bettache are both 22 in a couple of months time. You’d think they’d have to break through sooner rather than later if they are to have a career at QPR.
Duke-McKenna for me has a tendency to overplay in the 23s, and needs to release it quicker but has a rare combination of skill and tenaciousness. For the latter, his timing and aggression can often be off. He’s very slight, which would be my major concern.
Bettache I’ve always liked and rated highly, but his poor choice of loan at Oldham has likely set him back. Whilst Man City send their youngsters to ball playing teams only, in like with their style of play. we seemingly send them to blood and thunder types to “earn their stripes”. In retrospect, that’s proven to be a bad call, and requires a re-think.
Gubbins is very competent on the ball, and a great size at around 6”3, but I’ve yet to see him tested defensively. Needs a higher up loan but seems to only be able to get 1 month gigs here and there at National league and national league south. | | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 10:13 - Mar 9 with 1819 views | QPunkR |
I haven't seen him play live, but I genuinely can't see what harm it would do his career progression to get some minutes here and there off the bench for the first team. If he's not out on loan then get him on the bench, especially while we don't have any reliable forwards at the club as it is!
Further to that, his agent is constantly touting him about for moves. Shirley if he can see there's a route through to the first team with us it can only help us keep hold of him for longer? |  |
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| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 10:33 - Mar 9 with 1783 views | daveB |
hasn't he been out injured until recently which would probably explain why he's not been on the bench |  | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 10:49 - Mar 9 with 1733 views | Northernr |
I'm old enough to remember when Rem Oteh 'couldn't do any worse'... |  | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 10:50 - Mar 9 with 1724 views | QPunkR |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 10:49 - Mar 9 by Northernr |
I'm old enough to remember when Rem Oteh 'couldn't do any worse'... |
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| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 11:03 - Mar 9 with 1680 views | daveB |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 10:49 - Mar 9 by Northernr |
I'm old enough to remember when Rem Oteh 'couldn't do any worse'... |
It was Charlie Kellman a year ago | | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 11:07 - Mar 9 with 1673 views | T_Block |
Management team to decide......... | | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 11:21 - Mar 9 with 1623 views | Logman |
Not sure about Armstrong but Thomas definitely deserves another run. He presses and brings the energy that Gray and Austin cannot give after an hour.
Also, Dom Ball. He's far from the best passer in the team but he would have given us the drive to maintain the tempo when it fell off second half last week. | | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 11:28 - Mar 9 with 1607 views | stantheman10 |
How the hell are these players supposed to gain experience unless you play them? I'm not saying he is as good but Bellingham played for Birmingham when he was 16!
The end of the day how is it going to hurt him if he is sub and comes on for 15 minutes here and there? And if he scored imagine what confidence that would give him | | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 11:33 - Mar 9 with 1591 views | Northernr |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 11:28 - Mar 9 by stantheman10 |
How the hell are these players supposed to gain experience unless you play them? I'm not saying he is as good but Bellingham played for Birmingham when he was 16!
The end of the day how is it going to hurt him if he is sub and comes on for 15 minutes here and there? And if he scored imagine what confidence that would give him |
I don't necessarily disagree, but it's not all sunshine and upside. There is signficant downside if it goes badly too. Look, for instance, at the cruel and unrelenting grief Kakay gets on social media. How's that for his development? | | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 11:36 - Mar 9 with 1586 views | stantheman10 |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 12:09 - Mar 8 by wortonranger |
I’ve been watching the latest series of Vikings on Netflix and that’s what happened to a young guy. I think he went on to play for Valhalla. Hard to see how he did because the seats are up in the Gods.Sadly, I fear that those of us who see him as our salvation may be in Cloud Cuckoo land! |
It's not about him being a salvation it's about giving a young kid a chance when we are struggling for players in his position! | | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 13:07 - Mar 9 with 1468 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 11:36 - Mar 9 by stantheman10 |
It's not about him being a salvation it's about giving a young kid a chance when we are struggling for players in his position! |
In the full knowledge that if he plays and looks out of his depth there will be plenty screaming for MW's head as he doesn't know what he is doing? I am sure he will play when the coaches think he is ready to contribute. |  |
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| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 13:41 - Mar 9 with 1389 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 13:07 - Mar 9 by Esox_Lucius |
In the full knowledge that if he plays and looks out of his depth there will be plenty screaming for MW's head as he doesn't know what he is doing? I am sure he will play when the coaches think he is ready to contribute. |
Only if you pay any attention to the idiots on Facebook or Twitter.
I’ve not seen any major abuse of Kakay either.
If they aren’t going to bother trying Armstrong when we literally have just one forward in the first team squad they clearly don’t rate him and we will lose him for nothing when his contract expires. If we are meant to be developing young players and sell them on for decent money then at least give some of them a chance from the bench to see what they can do. | | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 13:54 - Mar 9 with 1362 views | daveB |
This new obsession from QPR fans with Armstrong is a bit weird to be honest. Why is it only him mentioned and not other forwards like Kargbo or Alfa.
I've never seen any of them play so am finding it hard to get my head around it all | | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 14:03 - Mar 9 with 1332 views | Malintabuk |
Same opinion of a lot on the thread I can't see the harm of the very least putting him on the bench.
Warbs is supposed to be a good man manger and there are many ways to treat someone and taking the pressure off and literally just sitting him on the bench will give the lad a lift
If he did get a run out a simple go out, enjoy it and don't worry too much about making mistakes as it will help you learn.
But I guess we have to trust the coaches to deliver what is best for him . One thing for almost certain the crowd in general will be right behind him. ........ well until he missed a sitter.... QPR innit | | | |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 14:23 - Mar 9 with 1297 views | ngbqpr |
| Is it time to blood Sinclair Armstrong? on 12:37 - Mar 8 by PlanetHonneywood |
If/when there’s nothing to play for, then give him a run out when the pressure is off.
It should show him where he is in our thinking/plans and if he’s poached, will boost our compensation claims accordingly. |
So when Clive Allen scored that post-relegation hat trick vs Cov all those years ago, you didn't think, 'hold on a sec, where's this lad been...' :) |  |
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