| The Spectator - QPR Article 16:55 - Apr 9 with 9199 views | supahoopsa |
By Toby Young
https://spectator.com/article/
It starts well, but unfortunately you have to have a subscription to read all of it. Does anyone on hear have said subscription and could they post the full text here? |  |
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| The Spectator - QPR Article on 17:01 - Apr 9 with 5539 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Seems his speech isn't free after all. |  | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 17:52 - Apr 9 with 5374 views | nick_hammersmith |
I think we all agreed not to post articles from paywalls to protect other journos incomes etc...
But there are many websites you can use, which open up articles for you if you do a quick search.
-- Can't stand Toby Young myself, so don't feel too bad taking money out of his pocket |  | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 17:56 - Apr 9 with 5355 views | HammersmithR |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 17:52 - Apr 9 by nick_hammersmith |
I think we all agreed not to post articles from paywalls to protect other journos incomes etc...
But there are many websites you can use, which open up articles for you if you do a quick search.
-- Can't stand Toby Young myself, so don't feel too bad taking money out of his pocket |
He’s one of us so that will do for me. Remember being at Millwall away on a Tuesday night and we had Michael Gove by us. He’s definitely Rangers. |  | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 18:00 - Apr 9 with 5340 views | nick_hammersmith |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 17:56 - Apr 9 by HammersmithR |
He’s one of us so that will do for me. Remember being at Millwall away on a Tuesday night and we had Michael Gove by us. He’s definitely Rangers. |
We must have some of the worst "celebrity" fans.
Didn't Victoria Cohens brother also go to QPR? Seems to have dropped off telly since his outburst in the Waitrose in house magazine, oh well...
-- *insert link to famous fans thread from ages ago* | | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 18:28 - Apr 9 with 5237 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 18:00 - Apr 9 by nick_hammersmith |
We must have some of the worst "celebrity" fans.
Didn't Victoria Cohens brother also go to QPR? Seems to have dropped off telly since his outburst in the Waitrose in house magazine, oh well...
-- *insert link to famous fans thread from ages ago* |
We're a team of extremes.
For every Mick Jones there is a John Christie. | | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 18:42 - Apr 9 with 5190 views | NorrisGreen |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 17:56 - Apr 9 by HammersmithR |
He’s one of us so that will do for me. Remember being at Millwall away on a Tuesday night and we had Michael Gove by us. He’s definitely Rangers. |
Didn't Gove stop coming to LR after Glenn Matlock gave him sustained and sweary abuse in The SA despite fact Gove had his kids with him? He now takes them to Chelsea I believe.
Sorry if this is not correct but it IS something I've been told by some sensible and credible people.
Still, seems it's very important to have the correct world view or you'll be categorised as the "worst" sort of fan apparently. | | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 18:54 - Apr 9 with 5141 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 18:42 - Apr 9 by NorrisGreen |
Didn't Gove stop coming to LR after Glenn Matlock gave him sustained and sweary abuse in The SA despite fact Gove had his kids with him? He now takes them to Chelsea I believe.
Sorry if this is not correct but it IS something I've been told by some sensible and credible people.
Still, seems it's very important to have the correct world view or you'll be categorised as the "worst" sort of fan apparently. |
If it's acceptable to tell Les Ferdinand to fck off, I don't think Michael Gove should be off limits. | | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 18:58 - Apr 9 with 5131 views | Jigsore |
in the words of Hank Hill - "Mother of God! It's all toilet sounds." |  | | |
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| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:09 - Apr 9 with 5085 views | Lanhoop |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 18:00 - Apr 9 by nick_hammersmith |
We must have some of the worst "celebrity" fans.
Didn't Victoria Cohens brother also go to QPR? Seems to have dropped off telly since his outburst in the Waitrose in house magazine, oh well...
-- *insert link to famous fans thread from ages ago* |
Giles Coren (not Cohen). Walked past him at the top of Loftus Road after the Watford game so he's still around. | | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:21 - Apr 9 with 5028 views | stevec |
By chance, was having a chat with a theosopher this afternoon, largely about the rise of generations who have zero tolerance of those with differing views and the mortal dangers this presents to society.
As you were. |  | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:39 - Apr 9 with 4971 views | Northernr |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:21 - Apr 9 by stevec |
By chance, was having a chat with a theosopher this afternoon, largely about the rise of generations who have zero tolerance of those with differing views and the mortal dangers this presents to society.
As you were. |
I wish people were intolerant enough of my views to pay me to write them to a deadline once a week in The Spectator. |  | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:41 - Apr 9 with 4963 views | dmm |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:21 - Apr 9 by stevec |
By chance, was having a chat with a theosopher this afternoon, largely about the rise of generations who have zero tolerance of those with differing views and the mortal dangers this presents to society.
As you were. |
As you mentioned theosophy, you have to wonder what some of those mentioned in this thread would make of its ethical principles of kindness, respect for all and universal brotherhood? |  | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:42 - Apr 9 with 4945 views | 100percent |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 18:42 - Apr 9 by NorrisGreen |
Didn't Gove stop coming to LR after Glenn Matlock gave him sustained and sweary abuse in The SA despite fact Gove had his kids with him? He now takes them to Chelsea I believe.
Sorry if this is not correct but it IS something I've been told by some sensible and credible people.
Still, seems it's very important to have the correct world view or you'll be categorised as the "worst" sort of fan apparently. |
Millwall away, pie to the head.... |  | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:48 - Apr 9 with 4897 views | eastside_r |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:09 - Apr 9 by Lanhoop |
Giles Coren (not Cohen). Walked past him at the top of Loftus Road after the Watford game so he's still around. |
Alan Coren (the dad) erstwhile editor of Punch was a big fan and thus indoctrinated his kids.
Giles is definitely avid but VCM claims no interest in football but if pushed is one of us, culturally at least. |  | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:51 - Apr 9 with 4886 views | Northernr |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:48 - Apr 9 by eastside_r |
Alan Coren (the dad) erstwhile editor of Punch was a big fan and thus indoctrinated his kids.
Giles is definitely avid but VCM claims no interest in football but if pushed is one of us, culturally at least. |
I thought I'd heard a clip of her on Six Music talking to Pete Doherty about Devon White?
Giles' mates are the ones who've turned the Pocket Watch into The Hawthorn with decent food, he's in there pre-match (according to his column, I'm not stalking). | | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:54 - Apr 9 with 4868 views | eastside_r |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:51 - Apr 9 by Northernr |
I thought I'd heard a clip of her on Six Music talking to Pete Doherty about Devon White?
Giles' mates are the ones who've turned the Pocket Watch into The Hawthorn with decent food, he's in there pre-match (according to his column, I'm not stalking). |
Yeah. I think she’s more of a fan than she sometimes lets on. | | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 20:51 - Apr 9 with 4682 views | kensalriser |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:21 - Apr 9 by stevec |
By chance, was having a chat with a theosopher this afternoon, largely about the rise of generations who have zero tolerance of those with differing views and the mortal dangers this presents to society.
As you were. |
Intolerance is far greater among older generations than younger, as any study of relevant polling will reveal. |  |
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| The Spectator - QPR Article on 21:15 - Apr 9 with 4595 views | hubble |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 20:51 - Apr 9 by kensalriser |
Intolerance is far greater among older generations than younger, as any study of relevant polling will reveal. |
I don't know what 'relevant polls' you're referring to, but it's certainly not my experience. None of my friends' kids - mostly late teens to early 20s - can bear to hear an opinion that differs from their orthodoxy. They literally put their fingers in their ears, or start humming, or shouting, rather than engage in a discussion about alternatives to their world view. It's extremely disappointing/shocking. |  |
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| The Spectator - QPR Article on 23:11 - Apr 9 with 4366 views | Gus_iom |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 21:15 - Apr 9 by hubble |
I don't know what 'relevant polls' you're referring to, but it's certainly not my experience. None of my friends' kids - mostly late teens to early 20s - can bear to hear an opinion that differs from their orthodoxy. They literally put their fingers in their ears, or start humming, or shouting, rather than engage in a discussion about alternatives to their world view. It's extremely disappointing/shocking. |
It would be interesting to see the framing of the polls, if they are asking people whether they are intolerant or not, then that's not objective, by any means.
I think, possibly, when we are young we are intolerant of other people's views, while as we get older we are more likely to be intolerant of things. I'm totally intolerant of people eating apples anywhere near me, whereas these days I couldn't really give a flying one if you support Chelsea. | |
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| The Spectator - QPR Article on 23:37 - Apr 9 with 4315 views | KensalT |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:48 - Apr 9 by eastside_r |
Alan Coren (the dad) erstwhile editor of Punch was a big fan and thus indoctrinated his kids.
Giles is definitely avid but VCM claims no interest in football but if pushed is one of us, culturally at least. |
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| The Spectator - QPR Article on 23:50 - Apr 9 with 4284 views | CiderwithRsie |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 23:37 - Apr 9 by KensalT |
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I thought posting porn on here was frowned on? | | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 23:59 - Apr 9 with 4258 views | BucksRanger |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 23:50 - Apr 9 by CiderwithRsie |
I thought posting porn on here was frowned on? |
No, that would be intolerant. |  | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 06:07 - Apr 10 with 4082 views | kernowhoop |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:21 - Apr 9 by stevec |
By chance, was having a chat with a theosopher this afternoon, largely about the rise of generations who have zero tolerance of those with differing views and the mortal dangers this presents to society.
As you were. |
In this world, it is not how you get on with those you agree with that matters most. That's the easy stuff. It is how you get on with those that you disagree with. Perhaps we could prompt to think about this, not just QPR fans, but a few world leaders. | | | |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 06:57 - Apr 10 with 4006 views | Gus_iom |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 23:50 - Apr 9 by CiderwithRsie |
I thought posting porn on here was frowned on? |
Only by the elites who run the place, the proles quite enjoy it. | |
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| The Spectator - QPR Article on 07:25 - Apr 10 with 3940 views | RBlock |
| The Spectator - QPR Article on 19:51 - Apr 9 by Northernr |
I thought I'd heard a clip of her on Six Music talking to Pete Doherty about Devon White?
Giles' mates are the ones who've turned the Pocket Watch into The Hawthorn with decent food, he's in there pre-match (according to his column, I'm not stalking). |
Giles Coren sits near me, just over the aisle in S Block, comes to nost home games. Bought his pal Gary Lineker to the Coventry game back in January. |  | | |
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