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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry 17:13 - May 15 with 41882 viewsNorthernr

There was an end of season debrief with the CEO at Loftus Road last night which I attended. We've whacked the audio on the Patreon, no pay wall on this so you should all be able to listen whether you've got a sub or not - please let me know if that's not the case.

I'll perhaps type the minutes up physically over the weekend if I've got enough in the tank...

https://www.patreon.com/posts/
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 17:38 - May 15 with 18044 viewsTK1

Just started listening to this but have to go out. Please reassure me, though, that the Stanley Bowles Stand roof is eventually addressed after Paul Morrissey teed it up in his intro only for the first question to completely ignore it and ask about an A.I. photo on X, then the second to also ignore it and ask about loaning players, and then a Cat 1 bond holder gripe...
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 17:47 - May 15 with 17972 viewsGaryBannister86

Good for you on not letting go of Nourry on the alleged fans abuse of the age group season tickets. Couldn't agree more - "no-one checks, so how do you know?".

Really looking forward to his circling back with the specific numbers on this. I'll wait.
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 17:49 - May 15 with 17967 viewsNorthernr

Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 17:47 - May 15 by GaryBannister86

Good for you on not letting go of Nourry on the alleged fans abuse of the age group season tickets. Couldn't agree more - "no-one checks, so how do you know?".

Really looking forward to his circling back with the specific numbers on this. I'll wait.


They have come back today with a figure of £47,000.
I have gone back with some additional questions on how that figure was reached.
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 17:55 - May 15 with 17923 viewsGaryBannister86

Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 17:49 - May 15 by Northernr

They have come back today with a figure of £47,000.
I have gone back with some additional questions on how that figure was reached.


Well fair play they came back, will give them that. But £47,000? Have I misunderstood? Are they saying that by "age abuse" someone older than the required age has used that season ticket for specific matches? Or that someone older than the required age has bought the ticket originally (surely that can't happen, I am sure my son's birth date ID was checked when I first bought it)?

I mean surely in that price range the difference per match isn't that much if it is the former, would mean that thousands are doing it every game?

Or have I misunderstood?

EDIT - apologies I presume that means cost per season, not per match! Ignore me.
[Post edited 15 May 18:08]
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 17:58 - May 15 with 17911 viewsJevlar

Good to hear some unscreened questions at Nourry.
I really want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he just doesn’t float my boat.
Hope he shuts me up and proves me wrong.
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 18:19 - May 15 with 17783 viewsdaveB

Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 17:47 - May 15 by GaryBannister86

Good for you on not letting go of Nourry on the alleged fans abuse of the age group season tickets. Couldn't agree more - "no-one checks, so how do you know?".

Really looking forward to his circling back with the specific numbers on this. I'll wait.


He did not like those questions did he
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 18:20 - May 15 with 17777 viewsOldPedro

CN never really seems to fully answer anything and he didn't like being challenged on the ticket changes. Immediately started saying it was the commercial dept as if he was deflecting the decision away from him.

Extra mature cheddar......a simple cheese for a simple man

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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 18:20 - May 15 with 17777 viewsdaveB

Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 17:55 - May 15 by GaryBannister86

Well fair play they came back, will give them that. But £47,000? Have I misunderstood? Are they saying that by "age abuse" someone older than the required age has used that season ticket for specific matches? Or that someone older than the required age has bought the ticket originally (surely that can't happen, I am sure my son's birth date ID was checked when I first bought it)?

I mean surely in that price range the difference per match isn't that much if it is the former, would mean that thousands are doing it every game?

Or have I misunderstood?

EDIT - apologies I presume that means cost per season, not per match! Ignore me.
[Post edited 15 May 18:08]


You have to send in a birth certificate for an under 8 ticket, well you used to anyway
I too my daughter to a game a year or so ago and it was such a faff getting her a free under 8 ticket I just ended up buying her an under 18 one

£47grand a season, maybe they should check the tickets rather than just up the prices
[Post edited 15 May 18:22]
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 18:25 - May 15 with 17724 viewsJevlar

Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 18:19 - May 15 by daveB

He did not like those questions did he


Not one bit, I was feeling both awkward and amused.

Any dissenters would be promptly weeded out if you reported to him.
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 18:30 - May 15 with 17680 viewsdmm

Was the recording edited? At one point, Paul said the meeting had been going on for something like 1 hour 45 mins.
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 18:35 - May 15 with 17629 viewsNorthernr

Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 18:30 - May 15 by dmm

Was the recording edited? At one point, Paul said the meeting had been going on for something like 1 hour 45 mins.


There is always an on the record and off the record part of these meetings.
It makes me uncomfortable, TBH, and I am constantly pushing back for more of it to be on and reportable, including refusing to attend unless a substantial potion of the evening is reportable to you guys.
Sometimes, in certain cases, it is unavoidable.
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 18:42 - May 15 with 17582 viewsBeejnewark

Without divulging the detail, was there anything off the record that sounded more encouraging than the on the record stuff?
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 18:44 - May 15 with 17572 viewsNewYorkRanger

Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 18:35 - May 15 by Northernr

There is always an on the record and off the record part of these meetings.
It makes me uncomfortable, TBH, and I am constantly pushing back for more of it to be on and reportable, including refusing to attend unless a substantial potion of the evening is reportable to you guys.
Sometimes, in certain cases, it is unavoidable.


Thanks for sharing. I’m no fan of Nourry and don’t believe he’s the best CEO for our club but I did think on this one there was noticeably less BS. He even got close to admitting some errors which I believe is a first.

Glory hunter, me

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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 19:01 - May 15 with 17495 viewsJamesB1979

I think the suggestion from Paul Morrissey was an excellent idea. Maybe not send an email from the site every week but as an example last season, we could have asked, could we get an injury update and also the question about Bould’s role.
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 19:03 - May 15 with 17501 viewsJordanFoster

That’s utterly bizarre. Is that deemed a success? The AI question, the season ticket concessions issue… all feels utterly bizarre.
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 19:26 - May 15 with 17339 viewsOldPedro

Duplicate post
[Post edited 15 May 19:27]

Extra mature cheddar......a simple cheese for a simple man

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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 19:34 - May 15 with 17289 viewsmart_Goblin

Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 18:20 - May 15 by daveB

You have to send in a birth certificate for an under 8 ticket, well you used to anyway
I too my daughter to a game a year or so ago and it was such a faff getting her a free under 8 ticket I just ended up buying her an under 18 one

£47grand a season, maybe they should check the tickets rather than just up the prices
[Post edited 15 May 18:22]


Absolutely .
Maybe do a better job checking tickets on entrance which was sort of the point made about the stewards . Feels like excuses to me

Like a pub punishing its regulars by making it £25 a pint because there might have been the odd underage drinker in.

It’s your problem and shouldn’t be ‘blamed’ on the fans.

Well done Clive for not letting go on that issue .
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 19:40 - May 15 with 17257 views1JD

Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 18:35 - May 15 by Northernr

There is always an on the record and off the record part of these meetings.
It makes me uncomfortable, TBH, and I am constantly pushing back for more of it to be on and reportable, including refusing to attend unless a substantial potion of the evening is reportable to you guys.
Sometimes, in certain cases, it is unavoidable.


On what basis is it justified to hold a confidential discussion with a select group of fans versus addressing the entire fan base?

It is not only a calculated leadership choice, but symptomatic of an organization that breeds widespread mistrust. Par for the course, it seems.

My guess? Attempting to keep a select group of influential fans “onside” via special privileges.
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 21:10 - May 15 with 16888 viewsstevec

Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 17:49 - May 15 by Northernr

They have come back today with a figure of £47,000.
I have gone back with some additional questions on how that figure was reached.


Does he realise that voluntarily cordoning off layers of seats at the front of lower school end and converting that section to home rather than away supporters is costing the club somewhere between £500k and £1m a season?

47 grand seems somewhat piffling by comparison.
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 21:16 - May 15 with 16867 viewsNorthernr

Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 21:10 - May 15 by stevec

Does he realise that voluntarily cordoning off layers of seats at the front of lower school end and converting that section to home rather than away supporters is costing the club somewhere between £500k and £1m a season?

47 grand seems somewhat piffling by comparison.


It’s also about 3 weeks wages for some of our footballers.

A lot of talk about the government, inflation, minimum wage increase, people jibbing in on kids tickets… you are losing £20m a year because you are paying too many footballers too much money relative to what you earn.
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 21:19 - May 15 with 16856 viewseastside_r

Hmmm.

Not sure what to make of all that. I think I’m going to have to listen to it all again before I pass comment.
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 21:27 - May 15 with 16815 viewsRangersw12

Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 21:16 - May 15 by Northernr

It’s also about 3 weeks wages for some of our footballers.

A lot of talk about the government, inflation, minimum wage increase, people jibbing in on kids tickets… you are losing £20m a year because you are paying too many footballers too much money relative to what you earn.


Reminds me of the 4 year plan when they wanted to reduce the amount of flowers to save money
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 21:31 - May 15 with 16800 viewsNorthernr

Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 21:27 - May 15 by Rangersw12

Reminds me of the 4 year plan when they wanted to reduce the amount of flowers to save money


Yeh Simmo maybe said to me the other day we’re at the bit where Patrick Agyemang is on £12k a week but we’re cutting the flower budget. Still, that ended in promotion!
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 22:49 - May 15 with 16560 viewsKensalT

Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 21:16 - May 15 by Northernr

It’s also about 3 weeks wages for some of our footballers.

A lot of talk about the government, inflation, minimum wage increase, people jibbing in on kids tickets… you are losing £20m a year because you are paying too many footballers too much money relative to what you earn.


Too many footballers and to many agents.

But isn't that the problem of the whole game in this country?

Football is far more expensive to watch in this country than anywhere else in Europe. Probably anywhere else in the world, apart from America this summer.

English football generates huge sums from TV audiences all across the globe, and yet the fans here still pay through the nose.
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Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 23:42 - May 15 with 16438 viewsstevenagehoop

Fan sites meeting with Christian Nourry on 17:49 - May 15 by Northernr

They have come back today with a figure of £47,000.
I have gone back with some additional questions on how that figure was reached.


Nourry should have been able to answer the question at the meeting.
If the club chose to justify their decision to up the prices ,in the way that they did , by claiming abuse it should have been obvious that they would be asked to provide details of such skullduggery at a meeting with fan representatives..
No reason they couldn’t have gone down the route of just dealing with those that broke the rules first before hitting those who played by them unless it is simply about bringing in more income. If that is the real reason he should have just said so rather than pinning it on the abuse angle.
[Post edited 15 May 23:45]

I never lie but I don't always tell the truth

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