| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 14:51 - Feb 27 with 6841 views | BuckR |
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| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 14:54 - Feb 27 with 6835 views | Antti_Heinola |
just a bit more detail than we already knew, and makes sense to have different options, although the 45,000 one is clearly insane.
Options 3 or 4 seem most likely. If it ever happens. |  |
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| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 15:02 - Feb 27 with 6778 views | stowmarketrange |
£350 million more for an extra 10,000 seats and a pitch on chains seem a bit excessive to me.I’d settle for option 4.How much could be raised by selling Loftus road for building land? |  | | |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 15:18 - Feb 27 with 6699 views | Discodroids |
I wish the club would Move to leigh on sea.
I realise it would be slightly inconvenient for 99.99999% of the supporter base and would mean fiscal Annihilation for the club i 've supported since 1977, but it would mean i'd have a good excuse not to watch 'location location location' saturday afternoon re runs with the Mrs that she's seen 234 times each, and the pre match beer would be ace face watching the cockle boats and towie High queens giving it large along the sea front in their ertha kitt cha cha heels. [Post edited 27 Feb 2019 15:19]
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| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 15:29 - Feb 27 with 6660 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 15:02 - Feb 27 by stowmarketrange |
£350 million more for an extra 10,000 seats and a pitch on chains seem a bit excessive to me.I’d settle for option 4.How much could be raised by selling Loftus road for building land? |
A rough rule of thumb for land cost for residential land is 30-40% of final sales value.
So as an example say there were going to be 200 flats at say an average sales value of 300k each that would be a gross sales value of £60m so 30-40% of that is £18 to £24m.
Clearly the value of our ground would depend on the number of units on the plans and the values they fell can be achieved. Another factor that may make that % towards the lower end would be the cost of demolition and remediation. |  | | |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 15:32 - Feb 27 with 6632 views | DejR_vu |
All options would result in us being tenants under a long lease. Should never be allowed to happen.
This is the sort of important stuff the authorities should be policing to protect clubs. [Post edited 27 Feb 2019 15:35]
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| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 15:41 - Feb 27 with 6566 views | Phildo |
Isn't the issue that the club want to own the ground? This option sees us as Saturday tenants while the thing is built with a view to other income going elsewhere which our owners do not like.
Not owning the ground can be ruinous for a club- say Coventry- but it depends on the ownership structure- like the Chelsea pitch owners thing which saved that club on a number of occasions. |  | | |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 16:14 - Feb 27 with 6425 views | mcqpr10 |
Would this be similar to the West Ham deal? Long term lease of hundreds of hundreds of years. Of course i don't think we will get such a good deal as they did! | | | |
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| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 16:18 - Feb 27 with 6400 views | bosh67 |
Knock down Loftus Road, rebuild a clever new design on the footprint, put all the office space under the pitch and on the roof, probably free up space to refashion it for 25,000+. We'll never get more in. |  |
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| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 16:21 - Feb 27 with 6388 views | TeddRanger |
Option 4 . A ground with up to 35,000 capacity costing 70m.
Ha ha ha .When was this written 1960??!! | | | |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 16:34 - Feb 27 with 6299 views | Rog |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 16:21 - Feb 27 by TeddRanger |
Option 4 . A ground with up to 35,000 capacity costing 70m.
Ha ha ha .When was this written 1960??!! |
Think it was written about 3 months ago and shared at the time. Nothing new here. Daily Fail. | | | |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 16:47 - Feb 27 with 6231 views | toboboly |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 15:32 - Feb 27 by DejR_vu |
All options would result in us being tenants under a long lease. Should never be allowed to happen.
This is the sort of important stuff the authorities should be policing to protect clubs. [Post edited 27 Feb 2019 15:35]
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If a lease is 1000 years with iron bound details for all regarding rent, costs, facilities, responsibilities, generatd income etc then it isn't a problem. What you don't want is either a Coventry or a West Ham situation where one of the sides is completely fcked over. |  |
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| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 17:15 - Feb 27 with 6123 views | derbyhoop |
The headline figure is clearly bollox. What you'd expect from the Daily Fail.
However, a stadium of around 30,000 is more like what we are aiming for.
Given a modicum of success, i.e. top half Championship or PL, there's no reason why we couldn't get crowds to justify that. The catchment area is a segment, north of the M4, west of the Edgware Road and all the way out to Hertfordshire. Of course, other team will be looking for fans from the same area but there's no reason why a good propertion can't become Rs. |  |
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| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 17:16 - Feb 27 with 6116 views | toboboly |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 17:15 - Feb 27 by derbyhoop |
The headline figure is clearly bollox. What you'd expect from the Daily Fail.
However, a stadium of around 30,000 is more like what we are aiming for.
Given a modicum of success, i.e. top half Championship or PL, there's no reason why we couldn't get crowds to justify that. The catchment area is a segment, north of the M4, west of the Edgware Road and all the way out to Hertfordshire. Of course, other team will be looking for fans from the same area but there's no reason why a good propertion can't become Rs. |
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| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 17:20 - Feb 27 with 6102 views | bob566 |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 15:32 - Feb 27 by DejR_vu |
All options would result in us being tenants under a long lease. Should never be allowed to happen.
This is the sort of important stuff the authorities should be policing to protect clubs. [Post edited 27 Feb 2019 15:35]
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it will be a clusterf*** if the club sell the ground.
You build a stadium that you own. Then you sell the old one off when the new one has finished been build. Don't lease. Please don't lease.
And build one that you can add on to if we ever do attract fans. We'd leeds in last night and we only got 14k in. We don't need a 45k stadium. 25k is plenty with the ability to add another stanchion if necessary.
As for raising the roof. It would be typical qpr if the f***in thing collapsed in on the first gig held there. | | | |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 17:22 - Feb 27 with 6081 views | Boston |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 16:18 - Feb 27 by bosh67 |
Knock down Loftus Road, rebuild a clever new design on the footprint, put all the office space under the pitch and on the roof, probably free up space to refashion it for 25,000+. We'll never get more in. |
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| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 17:23 - Feb 27 with 6084 views | DevonWhite |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 15:32 - Feb 27 by DejR_vu |
All options would result in us being tenants under a long lease. Should never be allowed to happen.
This is the sort of important stuff the authorities should be policing to protect clubs. [Post edited 27 Feb 2019 15:35]
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It's what Swansea did with the Liberty isn't it?
I understand the risk of a club not owning their own stadium but if there's a (very) long term lease in place is that necessarily a huge problem? Genuine question, I don't know enough about it. | | | |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 17:25 - Feb 27 with 6071 views | Boston |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 17:16 - Feb 27 by toboboly |
Hertfordshire is all Spurs and Arsenal. |
Makes you wonder how Watford survive really. | |
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| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 17:49 - Feb 27 with 5988 views | barbicanranger |
I wonder if the council will ask the fans to raise the roof during games?! |  | | |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 17:59 - Feb 27 with 5930 views | Boston |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 17:49 - Feb 27 by barbicanranger |
I wonder if the council will ask the fans to raise the roof during games?! |
I heard they wanted all of us to pitch in. | |
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| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 18:25 - Feb 27 with 5818 views | QPR_Jim |
I'm all for moving grounds but it's on the condition that we own the ground not leasing from the council or the owners. If the council build it you can kiss goodbye to it being unique and designed to be close to the pitch and keep atmosphere in. It will be the cheapest solution possible and be more focused on alternative uses than if we built it ourselves. So it's a no from me. |  | | |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 20:53 - Feb 27 with 5507 views | Juzzie |
A ground like that wouldn’t just be used for football. Any capacity north of 25-30k and you’re looking at a two tier ground like at MK.
Lower tier used for QPR games, upper tier opened if fixture dictates.
Ground used for U21 internationals etc., maybe neutral cup games involving lower league sides, concerts, NFL, rugby, etc. |  | | |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 20:57 - Feb 27 with 5485 views | philc |
I’m sure someone can correct me because I know little about council finances, but I very much doubt that at the cost they are talking about, and I’m sure it will be over budget, the Council will have chance of getting this of the ground. History of councils speculating in these types of ventures do not end well and politically I’m sure the electorate would rather the money be spent on services. Normally they would look for a partner to manage the project and take the financial risk. If this was to happen I suspect that they would look for QPR to come as partner rather than tenants. And like every one else, if it’s tenants thats on offer, it would be a no from me. We need the non match day income, however, if the Council are proposing this development could they turn down planning permission if we did decide to run and pay for it ourselves. | | | |
| New Stadium article, any truth in it at all?? on 21:17 - Feb 27 with 5407 views | Boston |
hmm dunno, Capt Jack on project management, me , punte and 2T2B nail banging, reckon we'd have a nice wooden box cobbled together in nine or ten years for half the money. | |
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