| Another new signing 18:56 - Jun 25 with 16683 views | leedsdale |
To be announced shortly. This one looks like a newbie.... |  | | |  |
| Another new signing on 15:46 - Jun 26 with 3005 views | D_Alien |
| Another new signing on 15:38 - Jun 26 by JimmyRustler |
That's what growing a beard, new teeth and having a hair transplant will do to you |
I'm sure there's plenty whose missus' would benefit from that |  |
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| Another new signing on 15:48 - Jun 26 with 2998 views | nordenblue |
| Another new signing on 10:18 - Jun 26 by AtThePeake |
That's not really the point though. In Andrew we have a player who offers an important outlet high up the pitch who our more creative players can feed off - but he struggles to score goals. I think Wilbraham, based on his return in the last few seasons (albeit in a higher division), is too similar a player to Calvin. I would've preferred for us to add a different dimension to our attacking options. Someone a bit more mobile with potential to be developed under Hill.
Between them in the last two seasons, Andrew and Wilbraham have scored 16 goals in 124 appearances. That means we're relying very heavily on Henderson to provide us goals next season, or hoping Wilbraham can recapture form he hasn't shown in 3 years at the age of 38.
Hope I'm proven wrong but I really don't see this as a good signing personally. |
It is exactly the point yes. RR said that the signing of Perkins and Wilbraham only serves to bench 2 of our young players,I'm asking which 2 that would be?
If you're looking at Wilbraham as a potential 20 goal a season striker he's obviously not a good signing based purely on that,I'd guess Hilly has more of a plan to use him rather than rely solely on him to score all the goals next year though. |  | | |
| Another new signing on 15:51 - Jun 26 with 2985 views | DaleiLama |
| Another new signing on 15:46 - Jun 26 by D_Alien |
I'm sure there's plenty whose missus' would benefit from that |
Not keen on my missus growing a beard tbf |  |
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| Another new signing on 15:54 - Jun 26 with 2967 views | nordenblue |
| Another new signing on 13:08 - Jun 26 by rochdaleriddler |
It doesn't really matter who I would play, in my very humble opinion strikers need a run of games in a settled side to get them firing. Obviously Hill rates Gillam as well, if the OAP's win the league for us ,great. I'll get my bet on for wilbraham and Andrew to get 30 apiece should I ? |
Ill try again....You said the signing of 2 experienced pro's(Perkins and Wilbraham) would only bench 2 of our younger players,who are these 2 players we've got that would be a better option? | | | |
| Another new signing on 15:59 - Jun 26 with 2937 views | JimmyRustler |
| Another new signing on 15:46 - Jun 26 by D_Alien |
I'm sure there's plenty whose missus' would benefit from that |
Few face and personality transplants wouldn't go a miss either! |  | | |
| Another new signing on 16:05 - Jun 26 with 2915 views | AtThePeake |
| Another new signing on 15:48 - Jun 26 by nordenblue |
It is exactly the point yes. RR said that the signing of Perkins and Wilbraham only serves to bench 2 of our young players,I'm asking which 2 that would be?
If you're looking at Wilbraham as a potential 20 goal a season striker he's obviously not a good signing based purely on that,I'd guess Hilly has more of a plan to use him rather than rely solely on him to score all the goals next year though. |
OK, but if two of our strikers are players who fit into the plan without being relied on to score the goals, then where are the goals going to come from?
I hope there's another forward coming but even if there is, I still think Wilbraham is a bit of a waste of a position in the squad as we already have a player who does his role well. |  |
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| Another new signing on 16:45 - Jun 26 with 2814 views | 1907 |
| Another new signing on 16:05 - Jun 26 by AtThePeake |
OK, but if two of our strikers are players who fit into the plan without being relied on to score the goals, then where are the goals going to come from?
I hope there's another forward coming but even if there is, I still think Wilbraham is a bit of a waste of a position in the squad as we already have a player who does his role well. |
Personally think that Calvin has been at his most effectual when deployed from the right.
With Andrew and Wilbraham either side of Hendo we will have some serious power up front to either knock balls on or bring the central midfielders into play.
I’m happy with the signing, we’ll see whether or not it turns out to be a good one. | | | |
| Another new signing on 17:35 - Jun 26 with 2717 views | nordenblue |
| Another new signing on 16:05 - Jun 26 by AtThePeake |
OK, but if two of our strikers are players who fit into the plan without being relied on to score the goals, then where are the goals going to come from?
I hope there's another forward coming but even if there is, I still think Wilbraham is a bit of a waste of a position in the squad as we already have a player who does his role well. |
While I agree with you in the main ATP,as an example whos to say Hilly doesnt drop Andrew maybe to centre half at times next season bringing Wilbraham in to play up top more.
Personally I'm surprised he didn't go for Daggers(assuming he didn't!!) as I still think we are a 15/20 goal a season type player light,again though if I was asked for a choice between possibly keeping Davies this season or Wilbraham signing, it's a no brainer and a cracking signing. [Post edited 26 Jun 2018 17:38]
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| Another new signing on 17:36 - Jun 26 with 2711 views | SaxonDale |
If he's been bought in as a squad player (which I'd be amazed if he wasn't) then I think he'll do a good job. I'd be amazed to see him starting regularly but his record suggests that he can make a big impact for the squad. Think I read earlier (maybe even on here) that he's been promoted at every permanent club he's signed to, with the exception of Bolton who he helped keep up last year. You must be doing something right to have a record like that and even if he helps us see out 5 wins then it helps us avoid being in the same situation as last year. He was also helping out with the coaching at Bristol City so presumably must be a good player to learn off. I know he's got a few years and considerably less goals than Pitman but if he brings a smidge of the game management/ cleverness to us as a team then it can only be a positive. |  | | |
| Another new signing on 18:39 - Jun 26 with 2607 views | boromat |
After the season we've had bringing in some experienced players that know how to win is a great move and don't forget we've brought in some youngsters and there's a chance some of our own youngsters will also be looking to make head way on the first team.
I'm really looking forward to the new season. The next additions probably depend on those still to sign offers. I'd also like another pacey forward. | |
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| Another new signing on 19:21 - Jun 26 with 2546 views | isitme |
I think Dooley is a pacey forward. |  | | |
| Another new signing on 20:11 - Jun 26 with 2454 views | boromat |
| Another new signing on 19:21 - Jun 26 by isitme |
I think Dooley is a pacey forward. |
I've heard the same that's why I said another  | |
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| Another new signing on 21:19 - Jun 26 with 2328 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Another new signing on 15:54 - Jun 26 by nordenblue |
Ill try again....You said the signing of 2 experienced pro's(Perkins and Wilbraham) would only bench 2 of our younger players,who are these 2 players we've got that would be a better option? |
Did I say that the younger players were a better option? I said that they will be warming the bench , if the oldies play. Our younger players surely need bringing through, our model was just that. |  |
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| Another new signing on 22:39 - Jun 26 with 2230 views | nordenblue |
| Another new signing on 21:19 - Jun 26 by rochdaleriddler |
Did I say that the younger players were a better option? I said that they will be warming the bench , if the oldies play. Our younger players surely need bringing through, our model was just that. |
If these so called younger players aren't a better option why would you be starting with them anyway,your point makes no sense.
Which 2 younger players would Perkins or Wilbraham prevent from starting that are currently ready for league 1 football?
It does the kids no harm at all coming off the bench anyway. | | | |
| Another new signing on 00:30 - Jun 27 with 2117 views | JimmyRustler |
Apparently, AW was offered terms for another year at Bolton? Judging by the move, you can only assume that he's been guaranteed more game time here - wonder what assurances he's been given? (considering he played a big part in keeping them up last year) | | | |
| Another new signing on 07:47 - Jun 27 with 1985 views | EllDale |
Bolton have signed Clayton Donaldson so it looks like they already had Wilbraham's replacement lined up. | | | |
| Another new signing on 08:09 - Jun 27 with 1953 views | 1907 |
A lot of Bolton fans are extremely complimentary of him over twitter.
Seen him described as a leader numerous times.
With McNulty, Perkins & Wilbraham we now have leaders all over the pitch, something we lacked throughout the majority of last season.
Henderson is a talisman, not a leader. | | | |
| Another new signing on 08:33 - Jun 27 with 1923 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Another new signing on 22:39 - Jun 26 by nordenblue |
If these so called younger players aren't a better option why would you be starting with them anyway,your point makes no sense.
Which 2 younger players would Perkins or Wilbraham prevent from starting that are currently ready for league 1 football?
It does the kids no harm at all coming off the bench anyway. |
Cannon, adshead, camps, gillam- at least one of those, there happy now? | |
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| Another new signing on 09:04 - Jun 27 with 1877 views | nordenblue |
| Another new signing on 08:33 - Jun 27 by rochdaleriddler |
Cannon, adshead, camps, gillam- at least one of those, there happy now? |
I'm over the moon thanks,neither Gillam or Adshead are anywhere near ready for league 1 football,Camps was a shadow of his former self all last season,leaves us with Cannon,can you see why Hilly has signed these"older" players even if it means he's hindering(in your eyes) the progress of our "younger players"
Have you even considered signing these older pro's may actually improve our younger players too in the bigger picture? | | | |
| Another new signing on 11:47 - Jun 27 with 1771 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Another new signing on 09:04 - Jun 27 by nordenblue |
I'm over the moon thanks,neither Gillam or Adshead are anywhere near ready for league 1 football,Camps was a shadow of his former self all last season,leaves us with Cannon,can you see why Hilly has signed these"older" players even if it means he's hindering(in your eyes) the progress of our "younger players"
Have you even considered signing these older pro's may actually improve our younger players too in the bigger picture? |
Well gillam featured quite a bit at the end of last season, adshead is being watched by premier league sides. You know the old adage, if you are good enough you are old enough. Conversely I don't necessarily think older players are past it. I suppose my comment was more I hope that their development isn't held back by the oldies. As Perkins and wilbraham are unlikely to feature for 90 minutes , maybe we will get the best of all worlds. They might be on the bench to help manage games late on | |
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| Another new signing on 11:49 - Jun 27 with 1764 views | tony_roch975 |
| Another new signing on 09:04 - Jun 27 by nordenblue |
I'm over the moon thanks,neither Gillam or Adshead are anywhere near ready for league 1 football,Camps was a shadow of his former self all last season,leaves us with Cannon,can you see why Hilly has signed these"older" players even if it means he's hindering(in your eyes) the progress of our "younger players"
Have you even considered signing these older pro's may actually improve our younger players too in the bigger picture? |
but they never will progress if we fill the starting XI with 30+ year olds and as the Club depend on developing & selling on young players that might be the worst of own goals! | |
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| Another new signing on 12:09 - Jun 27 with 1730 views | rochdale_ranger |
Happy with all of our signings. Hilly has worked wonders with the kids in the last few years ( and will no doubt continue to do so) but last season our lack of experience really showed and he’s improving in that area. I don’t think it’s a zero sum game. The older players coming in are not going to hinder the development of the youth. If anything the youth will learn a few things being around seasoned pros. Look when Holty came back for his brief spell. |  | | |
| Another new signing on 12:58 - Jun 27 with 1616 views | boromat |
I think the 'giving the youth a chance' comments are a bit misled. The signings of Perkins and Wilbraham will definitely help the youngsters develop on and off the field. Last season you could argue our most experienced midfielder was Camps. If I was Hill having a struggling midfield and only the experience of a 21/22 year old at the heart wouldn't make me feel too comfortable about also introducing a 16/17/18 year old next to them. This year with Perkins, Camps and maybe Williams/Cannon in the midfield I'm sure Hilly will be much more inclined to start/sub on a Morley or Adshead into this much more experienced midfield. | |
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| Another new signing on 13:03 - Jun 27 with 1609 views | nordenblue |
| Another new signing on 11:49 - Jun 27 by tony_roch975 |
but they never will progress if we fill the starting XI with 30+ year olds and as the Club depend on developing & selling on young players that might be the worst of own goals! |
We've never filled the side with 30 odd year old players as long as Hilly has been with us.
Last season clearly showed we need more leaders(experience) around the pitch if that means signing 2 proven older pro's who know how to see games out and control things when we need steadying I've no problem at all with their age. For what its worth one of our most consistent performers over the last few seasons also happens to be one of the oldest. | | | |
| Another new signing on 13:12 - Jun 27 with 1590 views | dingdangblue |
| Another new signing on 15:38 - Jun 26 by JimmyRustler |
That's what growing a beard, new teeth and having a hair transplant will do to you |
I'd ask for a refund regarding the hair transplant! |  |
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