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Forum thread 20:30 - Jan 14 with 24915 views442Dale

Few things from tonight:

The board acknowledged the strength of feeling around Hill’s comments about supporters after games. They are also encouraging him to be more open with fans.

They have confidence in the manager.

Season ticket prices won’t be increased next year.

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Forum thread on 21:03 - Jan 14 with 3513 viewsD_Alien

Forum thread on 20:36 - Jan 14 by dalenumber2

Was just reading some comments on the Facebook page. The chairman didn't show, it was the 'expected Bottomley whitewash" Comments include "Keith Hill runs the club", " has all the directors by the balls" "the ones that weren't behind Hill like Dunphy got the boot".
Be interesting to hear the views of some posters on here to strike a balance.
[Post edited 14 Jan 2019 20:43]


Keith Hill doesn't run the football club, but after tonight, it's crystal clear that David Bottomley does. Whether that's a good thing or not a good thing remains, imo, to be seen, but i couldn't fault his attention to detail and awareness of many of the finer points that we discuss on here

On the way out, i overheard one fan saying "they didn't answer one question". That's just not true. It is true that some issues were skirted over but some honest and direct answers were also given

I tried to bring the new chairman into the proceedings but, as others have said, what was most telling was his lack of engagement. He's a figurehead, but a very different one to Chris Dunphy. Again, whether that's a good thing or not remains to be seen

My overall impression? It wasn't just a PR exercise, there is genuine support for the club in the truest sense among the newly-constituted board, the female presence brings a welcome perspective and i feel marginally more positive than before

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Forum thread on 21:05 - Jan 14 with 3490 viewsDaleiLama

Forum thread on 20:56 - Jan 14 by 442Dale

He was at the top table.

Sure it will be communicated as there was a commitment towards making that better. Expect that we’ll hear about that Randall chap from Liverpool too.

Edit: And it was https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2019/january/smallwood-rejoins/
[Post edited 14 Jan 2019 21:36]


I thought it was that Marty Hopkirk who no one was supposed to be able to see?

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Forum thread on 21:07 - Jan 14 with 3444 viewsjudd

Forum thread on 21:03 - Jan 14 by D_Alien

Keith Hill doesn't run the football club, but after tonight, it's crystal clear that David Bottomley does. Whether that's a good thing or not a good thing remains, imo, to be seen, but i couldn't fault his attention to detail and awareness of many of the finer points that we discuss on here

On the way out, i overheard one fan saying "they didn't answer one question". That's just not true. It is true that some issues were skirted over but some honest and direct answers were also given

I tried to bring the new chairman into the proceedings but, as others have said, what was most telling was his lack of engagement. He's a figurehead, but a very different one to Chris Dunphy. Again, whether that's a good thing or not remains to be seen

My overall impression? It wasn't just a PR exercise, there is genuine support for the club in the truest sense among the newly-constituted board, the female presence brings a welcome perspective and i feel marginally more positive than before


Is he the one described as an entrepreneur?

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Forum thread on 21:10 - Jan 14 with 3363 viewsD_Alien

Forum thread on 21:07 - Jan 14 by judd

Is he the one described as an entrepreneur?


Yes, i think he was. I recall thinking that DS did him no favours in his introduction

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Forum thread on 21:14 - Jan 14 with 3264 viewsroccydaleian

Forum thread on 21:10 - Jan 14 by D_Alien

Yes, i think he was. I recall thinking that DS did him no favours in his introduction


His introduction for Gina was a belter.
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Forum thread on 21:15 - Jan 14 with 3234 viewsSuddenLad

Forum thread on 21:10 - Jan 14 by D_Alien

Yes, i think he was. I recall thinking that DS did him no favours in his introduction


Isn't the Chairman a Merchant Banker, based in London. ? And who is DS ?

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Forum thread on 21:16 - Jan 14 with 3229 viewsjudd

Forum thread on 21:14 - Jan 14 by roccydaleian

His introduction for Gina was a belter.


She belts people?

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Forum thread on 21:18 - Jan 14 with 3172 viewsD_Alien

Forum thread on 21:16 - Jan 14 by judd

She belts people?


Something along the lines of "Gina has worked her way through every position"

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Forum thread on 21:19 - Jan 14 with 3148 viewsTVOS1907

Forum thread on 20:41 - Jan 14 by dale4ever

The chairman was there, he didn’t inspire me with much confidence though. Was asked about his long term aim here and said he wasn’t sure he would still be here in 12 months time. He looked to Bottomly about everything he was asked. Something didn’t seem quite right with him.


You've misinterpreted what the Chairman said.

He was asked would he serve 12 years like Chris Dunphy and he said he didn't know what he would be doing in 12 months, let alone 12 years, just like most of us don't know exactly what we'll be doing in 12 months time.

Undoubted knowledge? Or just the application of common sense and using my brain?

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Forum thread on 21:22 - Jan 14 with 3102 viewsTVOS1907

Forum thread on 20:47 - Jan 14 by SuddenLad

For what it's worth, my understanding of the Sam Hart situation is that attempts were made to make the deal last until the end of the season, but Blackburn had previously been paying 80% of his wages,

For the deal to continue, Blackburn wanted Dale to pay his whole salary, which the club declined to do.

Deal over, Sam Hart returned. His salary was out of our league, quite literally.....


How have you come to that conclusion, SL?

Undoubted knowledge? Or just the application of common sense and using my brain?

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Forum thread on 21:23 - Jan 14 with 3070 viewsrichfoad32

Forum thread on 20:56 - Jan 14 by SuddenLad

I'm not implying it was anything to do with the Forum. I was told 2 weeks ago, that that was the situation.

For the loan to continue beyond the original period, the terms were laid out and Dale weren't in a position (or wouldn't agree) to pay the wages....


I thought he was on loan for the season? Are they allowed to change the terms half way through?
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Forum thread on 21:23 - Jan 14 with 3070 viewsTVOS1907

Forum thread on 20:56 - Jan 14 by SuddenLad

I'm not implying it was anything to do with the Forum. I was told 2 weeks ago, that that was the situation.

For the loan to continue beyond the original period, the terms were laid out and Dale weren't in a position (or wouldn't agree) to pay the wages....


If that was the case, I'm sure it would have been intimated tonight.

Undoubted knowledge? Or just the application of common sense and using my brain?

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Forum thread on 21:23 - Jan 14 with 3064 viewsSuddenLad

Forum thread on 21:22 - Jan 14 by TVOS1907

How have you come to that conclusion, SL?


I was told.

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Forum thread on 21:25 - Jan 14 with 3029 views442Dale

Forum thread on 21:23 - Jan 14 by SuddenLad

I was told.


Words, as we’ve seen time and again, mean nothing.

This club will move forward when that’s accepted by everyone.

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Forum thread on 21:26 - Jan 14 with 3009 viewsTVOS1907

Forum thread on 21:15 - Jan 14 by SuddenLad

Isn't the Chairman a Merchant Banker, based in London. ? And who is DS ?


Dave Sweetmore

Undoubted knowledge? Or just the application of common sense and using my brain?

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Forum thread on 21:26 - Jan 14 with 3003 viewsdale4ever

Forum thread on 21:19 - Jan 14 by TVOS1907

You've misinterpreted what the Chairman said.

He was asked would he serve 12 years like Chris Dunphy and he said he didn't know what he would be doing in 12 months, let alone 12 years, just like most of us don't know exactly what we'll be doing in 12 months time.


That’s a very good point, however it didn’t instill much confidence though that he didn’t seem committed for the long haul though to me. He works from London but insists he is keen on being at the club as much as he possibly can be. I’m skeptical he can be as involved as Dunphy was. Bottomly did skirt around on some questions but did answer others though, the season ticket prices staying the same is a big plus for me.
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Forum thread on 21:26 - Jan 14 with 2995 viewsTVOS1907

Forum thread on 21:23 - Jan 14 by richfoad32

I thought he was on loan for the season? Are they allowed to change the terms half way through?


Yes, like Leicester have just done with Harvey Barnes and WBA.

Undoubted knowledge? Or just the application of common sense and using my brain?

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Forum thread on 21:27 - Jan 14 with 2992 viewsTVOS1907

Forum thread on 21:23 - Jan 14 by SuddenLad

I was told.


Oh!

Undoubted knowledge? Or just the application of common sense and using my brain?

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Forum thread on 21:30 - Jan 14 with 2929 viewsSuddenLad

Forum thread on 21:27 - Jan 14 by TVOS1907

Oh!


As opposed to 'coming to a conclusion'.

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Forum thread on 21:32 - Jan 14 with 2895 viewsTVOS1907

Forum thread on 21:30 - Jan 14 by SuddenLad

As opposed to 'coming to a conclusion'.


Is that a euphemism?

Undoubted knowledge? Or just the application of common sense and using my brain?

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Forum thread on 21:35 - Jan 14 with 2834 viewsD_Alien

Forum thread on 21:26 - Jan 14 by dale4ever

That’s a very good point, however it didn’t instill much confidence though that he didn’t seem committed for the long haul though to me. He works from London but insists he is keen on being at the club as much as he possibly can be. I’m skeptical he can be as involved as Dunphy was. Bottomly did skirt around on some questions but did answer others though, the season ticket prices staying the same is a big plus for me.


And that's what i was trying to elicit by the question. Not, that he'd be expected to serve as long as CD, but whether he felt committed to the role in the same way as CD did

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Forum thread on 21:37 - Jan 14 with 2817 viewsSuddenLad

Forum thread on 21:32 - Jan 14 by TVOS1907

Is that a euphemism?


'Twas your choice of phrase. You tell me......

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Forum thread on 21:41 - Jan 14 with 2738 viewsjudd

Apologies I couldn't attend nor send questions in via the Trust but was anything asked/said about the board changes, Dunphy in particular, or the process involved in appointing the chief executive?

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Forum thread on 21:56 - Jan 14 with 2589 viewsSuddenLad

Forum thread on 21:41 - Jan 14 by judd

Apologies I couldn't attend nor send questions in via the Trust but was anything asked/said about the board changes, Dunphy in particular, or the process involved in appointing the chief executive?


Judd, you raise an important point. James Mason was our CEO and he was appointed in a blaze of publicity, Dale had made 'a coup' by gaining his services.

Within a matter of weeks, he was 'sidelined' and we were advised that DB was now to be the CEO.

Who interviewed him for the position of CEO and who were the other applicants for the post ?

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Forum thread on 21:59 - Jan 14 with 2553 viewsjudd

Forum thread on 21:56 - Jan 14 by SuddenLad

Judd, you raise an important point. James Mason was our CEO and he was appointed in a blaze of publicity, Dale had made 'a coup' by gaining his services.

Within a matter of weeks, he was 'sidelined' and we were advised that DB was now to be the CEO.

Who interviewed him for the position of CEO and who were the other applicants for the post ?


Indeed.

References?

Due diligence?

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