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Sam Hart 17:42 - Jan 15 with 3111 viewsSuddenLad

Joins Southend United on loan.....

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Sam Hart on 18:09 - Jan 15 with 3022 viewsmingthemerciless

Tony Mowbray being quoted as saying " he's come back a different player". If I take it that means he's a better player now he must have learnt something off Keith Hill.
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Sam Hart on 18:26 - Jan 15 with 2963 viewsDaleFan7

Sam Hart on 18:09 - Jan 15 by mingthemerciless

Tony Mowbray being quoted as saying " he's come back a different player". If I take it that means he's a better player now he must have learnt something off Keith Hill.


Maybe he's gone back with a chip on his shoulder.
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Sam Hart on 18:42 - Jan 15 with 2916 viewsjonahwhereru

Southend have always paid well, both Cox and Kightly are both on 7k a week, so they could certainly pay more of Harts wage than Rochdale did.

It must have been good for Hart to be so appreciated as he was by the Rochdale fans, can only have taken it as a positive. Easy to see why Mowbray sees him as a different player now.

Hope he doesn’t meet us in the end of April game.
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Sam Hart on 18:56 - Jan 15 with 2875 viewsDaleFan7

If his loan was until the end of the season then can Blackburn just demand we up our contribution in January?
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Sam Hart on 20:39 - Jan 15 with 2691 viewsYorkshire_Dale

Sam Hart did really well for us and his departure smells of more than a money issue.

Welcome back here anytime Samuel.
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Sam Hart on 21:21 - Jan 15 with 2593 viewsseasidedale

A chance of topic slightly, talking of ex players Steve Davies has left Blackpool and joined Hamilton Accies
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Sam Hart on 10:21 - Jan 16 with 2253 viewssweetcorn

Sam Hart on 18:56 - Jan 15 by DaleFan7

If his loan was until the end of the season then can Blackburn just demand we up our contribution in January?


If there is a recall clause in the contract then effectively yes. Just recall him and offer him us back for a higher price..

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Sam Hart on 14:56 - Jan 16 with 2065 viewselectricblue

Long way from Lancashire

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Sam Hart on 16:50 - Jan 16 with 1961 viewsJames1980

Sam Hart on 14:56 - Jan 16 by electricblue

Long way from Lancashire


Yes Swindon's about 140 miles from Southend.

Considering the reports of questions being skirted around on Monday. The fact regarding Sam Hart from what I gather there was a fairly comprehensive answer, I am inclined to believe that there was no or a very small dressing room bust up if any.

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Sam Hart on 00:26 - Jan 17 with 1756 viewspioneer

Sam Hart on 16:50 - Jan 16 by James1980

Yes Swindon's about 140 miles from Southend.

Considering the reports of questions being skirted around on Monday. The fact regarding Sam Hart from what I gather there was a fairly comprehensive answer, I am inclined to believe that there was no or a very small dressing room bust up if any.


but still interesting how he thanked the fans and teamates, but not the manager.
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Sam Hart on 07:09 - Jan 17 with 1678 viewsJames1980

Sam Hart on 00:26 - Jan 17 by pioneer

but still interesting how he thanked the fans and teamates, but not the manager.


Perhaps that was not a deliberate omission, did he mention any coaching staff?

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Sam Hart on 10:46 - Jan 17 with 1564 viewsRooleyMoorBlue

Sam Hart on 00:26 - Jan 17 by pioneer

but still interesting how he thanked the fans and teamates, but not the manager.


I was told that he and Hill had a bust up and that is why Hart left. A clash of personalities or Hill insisting black is white and Hart disagreeing.
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Sam Hart on 12:18 - Jan 17 with 1445 viewssweetcorn

I can’t really understand why some are obsessing with a player and a manager falling out. It’s happened with players throughout his time here, with players being offloaded who don’t buy into hills management approach and no one batted an eyelid, now that we’re losing games, suddenly its a major problem..

It happens at most clubs with players falling out and happens at most work places, not every manager is likeable..

Im sure hill has a long list of players who sing his praises for what he’s done for their careers, just like he’ll have a list of people who think he’s a nob.

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Sam Hart on 15:42 - Jan 17 with 1316 viewsJames1980

Sam Hart on 12:18 - Jan 17 by sweetcorn

I can’t really understand why some are obsessing with a player and a manager falling out. It’s happened with players throughout his time here, with players being offloaded who don’t buy into hills management approach and no one batted an eyelid, now that we’re losing games, suddenly its a major problem..

It happens at most clubs with players falling out and happens at most work places, not every manager is likeable..

Im sure hill has a long list of players who sing his praises for what he’s done for their careers, just like he’ll have a list of people who think he’s a nob.


Head above the parapet here. People obsess about it because it is another stick to bash a manager with, especially if the rumours surround a fall out with a fans favourite. I doubt Dale are unique in this regard.

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Sam Hart on 18:37 - Jan 17 with 1208 viewsShun

Sam Hart on 12:18 - Jan 17 by sweetcorn

I can’t really understand why some are obsessing with a player and a manager falling out. It’s happened with players throughout his time here, with players being offloaded who don’t buy into hills management approach and no one batted an eyelid, now that we’re losing games, suddenly its a major problem..

It happens at most clubs with players falling out and happens at most work places, not every manager is likeable..

Im sure hill has a long list of players who sing his praises for what he’s done for their careers, just like he’ll have a list of people who think he’s a nob.


It’s because it’s never happened with this concentrated regularity before. Since the start of the month we’ve lost, for one reason or other, 7 players. When have we ever had a January where we saw so much change in the squad?
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Sam Hart on 20:23 - Jan 17 with 1160 viewsDaleiLama

Sam Hart on 18:37 - Jan 17 by Shun

It’s because it’s never happened with this concentrated regularity before. Since the start of the month we’ve lost, for one reason or other, 7 players. When have we ever had a January where we saw so much change in the squad?


Playing devil's advocate, Shun, when did we ever have a squad that big? And as we weren't ripping up trees, change was inevitable. The changes made weren't what a lot of fans expected, but we aren't managers. As for all the "rumours", I'm sure some are founded and some not. The accepted wisdom by many currently though, is that there's no fire without smoke.

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Sam Hart on 23:32 - Jan 17 with 1079 viewssweetcorn

Sam Hart on 18:37 - Jan 17 by Shun

It’s because it’s never happened with this concentrated regularity before. Since the start of the month we’ve lost, for one reason or other, 7 players. When have we ever had a January where we saw so much change in the squad?


Tbf, we’ve never been struggling like we have these past 2 seasons. If you’re doing well you wouldn’t want to have wholesale changes to the squad.

Our squad is as big as it’s ever been and it hasn’t yielded results. Naturally with such a big squad i’d imagine it’s our biggest ever wage bill, so we’re in a position where players need to go, for others to come in.

2 of those you’ve mentioned were always scheduled to go back as well..
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