| Peterborough match thread 14:06 - Sep 14 with 17312 views | 442Dale |
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| Peterborough match thread on 17:00 - Sep 14 with 2930 views | Thacks_Rabbits |
| Peterborough match thread on 16:49 - Sep 14 by fitzochris |
I’m not going to go over the top about this result or performance the same way I didn’t join in with the media hypefest over the Southend result and performance.
Our true level lies somewhere in between the two. |
This has to be taken in context, sure there were a lot of cock ups, and it’s a crap result, but I the long term it could help bbm and the team.
Peterborough pay a hell of a lot more than us, bigger attendances, multi millionaire owner. George Boyd (injured today) will be on money fflcbfc would not even have dreamt of spending.
Hopefully today will lead to better things going forward! |  |
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| Peterborough match thread on 17:02 - Sep 14 with 2907 views | SaxonDale |
| Peterborough match thread on 16:57 - Sep 14 by 49thseason |
Hope not, there are 2 more games before that one. |
 been a long week. |  | | |
| Peterborough match thread on 17:05 - Sep 14 with 2861 views | KenBoon |
| Peterborough match thread on 16:59 - Sep 14 by Shun |
Except we aren’t a slow possession team, and we do have good ball players (2 of our back 5 are in the top 6 for most successful passes in the league). Don’t be so dramatic. It’s a terrible result but Posh are a quality side and it’s the first time all season we’ve been outplayed.
They did what no one’s really done to us all season and pressed the hell out of us. Our Plan A is good, our fault today was not having a Plan B.
Fitzo’s spot on, there’s no need to be dramatic about this result just as there wasn’t about the previous result, as in reality we’re a mid-table side, and after the past two seasons that’s pretty great! |
One of those best passers is Jim McNulty. Passing sidewards with no pressure isn’t the problem, it’s the trickier stuff. Like possession stats, those popping it about stats at the back are mostly pointless.
I’m not being dramatic and agree our standard lies between the top six and bottom six. I have concerns about us being picked off when pressured. We need more to our game, like most pass pass sides it starts at the top of the park. If there’s no passes on then it goes nowhere. Is today’s game a case of half a seasons mistakes in 90 minutes (against one of the best attacks and attackers in the league) or do we revert to messing up when rushed? |  | | |
| Peterborough match thread on 17:05 - Sep 14 with 2865 views | Molly |
| Peterborough match thread on 16:59 - Sep 14 by Shun |
Except we aren’t a slow possession team, and we do have good ball players (2 of our back 5 are in the top 6 for most successful passes in the league). Don’t be so dramatic. It’s a terrible result but Posh are a quality side and it’s the first time all season we’ve been outplayed.
They did what no one’s really done to us all season and pressed the hell out of us. Our Plan A is good, our fault today was not having a Plan B.
Fitzo’s spot on, there’s no need to be dramatic about this result just as there wasn’t about the previous result, as in reality we’re a mid-table side, and after the past two seasons that’s pretty great! |
KB seems to agree with you .He is one of the up-voters of Fitzo's post. |  | | |
| Peterborough match thread on 17:12 - Sep 14 with 2795 views | 442Dale |
| Peterborough match thread on 16:52 - Sep 14 by Yorkshire_Dale |
Which is why it would have been better to bring on Matty Done who buzzes around rather than Calvin,for Mr Hendo?
Or were we thinking of Calvin's defensive attributes at 6-0 down? |
Calvin should have come on at half time so we could go more direct.
Re Shun’s point: We struggled against Blackpool first half with a team that really push up against us. Peterborough play with two centre forwards who would do the same. We have to play differently against these sides, it doesn’t mean smashing it forward but it does mean a safety first philosophy. | |
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| Peterborough match thread on 17:12 - Sep 14 with 2791 views | jonahwhereru |
Said at the start of the season I like us to play Peterborough early in the season as they are a always a top half or better club, to take a gauge from. Crikey. I hope this is an outlier result.
Clearly plenty went wrong today, and now the challenge for BBM is how he reacts and what reaction the players give him. Just hope this does not knock us completely out of our stride. Time to wipe our faces and move on etc.
It’s been a very long while since I worried the the Dale might concede 10 in a game. Don’t want to go there again for the rest of my days. | | | |
| Peterborough match thread on 17:15 - Sep 14 with 2763 views | D_Alien |
| Peterborough match thread on 17:02 - Sep 14 by SaxonDale |
been a long week. |
But just as well this didn't happen right before the Utd match!
Makes the Lincoln game a real test for BBM. I'm not expecting any changes to personnel, but i'd like to think he knows how to react to his first real setback
There were concerns expressed after the pre-season friendlies that something like this would happen. If we start conceding through trying to be too clever on Tuesday, i don't think it'll take long for the crowd to let him know it's a strategy that needs to be leavened with getting the basics right first and foremost |  |
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| Peterborough match thread on 17:16 - Sep 14 with 2746 views | SunningDale |
| Peterborough match thread on 17:00 - Sep 14 by Thacks_Rabbits |
This has to be taken in context, sure there were a lot of cock ups, and it’s a crap result, but I the long term it could help bbm and the team.
Peterborough pay a hell of a lot more than us, bigger attendances, multi millionaire owner. George Boyd (injured today) will be on money fflcbfc would not even have dreamt of spending.
Hopefully today will lead to better things going forward! |
They probably had near enough the exact same team and budget when we went there last season and beat them 1-0 so stop banging on about it FFS....
Agree that it has to be taken in context, a bad day at the office, it happens. | |
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| Peterborough match thread on 17:29 - Sep 14 with 2616 views | Thacks_Rabbits |
| Peterborough match thread on 17:16 - Sep 14 by SunningDale |
They probably had near enough the exact same team and budget when we went there last season and beat them 1-0 so stop banging on about it FFS....
Agree that it has to be taken in context, a bad day at the office, it happens. |
Not really banging on about it, just making a point.
Boyd, Toney and Maddison are probably on more money per week than our entire squad. | |
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| Peterborough match thread on 17:38 - Sep 14 with 2541 views | boromat |
Seems to be plenty of overreaction going on online. The way we were playing we were always going to get battered on occasions and this is the first and won't be the last. When we played good open football under Hill we also got battered on occasions as well.
Hopefully we stick to our guns and our confidence isn't knocked. We'll hopefully win more than we lose this season but there's always going to be goals one way or another. | |
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| Peterborough match thread on 17:43 - Sep 14 with 2498 views | TVOS1907 |
| Peterborough match thread on 17:16 - Sep 14 by SunningDale |
They probably had near enough the exact same team and budget when we went there last season and beat them 1-0 so stop banging on about it FFS....
Agree that it has to be taken in context, a bad day at the office, it happens. |
We lost there last season. |  |
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| Peterborough match thread on 17:44 - Sep 14 with 2499 views | RespectTheChemistry |
| Peterborough match thread on 15:48 - Sep 14 by KenBoon |
The problem with playing slow pass pass football is it a) needs to go somewhere, and b) don’t do silly things when pressed. Not every team in this division are as shit as Southend and obv Peterborough are pretty decent. Blackpool were decent and controlled most of the game against us even though we probably had more of the ball.
Need a plan b because once half-decent teams figure us out (like today) it’ll be very tough since we don’t have enough up top. |
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| Peterborough match thread on 18:07 - Sep 14 with 2310 views | The_Knightowl |
As I said earlier on this will be a bench mark …...so I wonder who will now become the focus as to whose fault it is ? I wonder ...………..reading this thread again ……….it isn't McGahey etc etc | | | |
| Peterborough match thread on 19:06 - Sep 14 with 2058 views | Plattyswrinklynuts |
| Peterborough match thread on 17:12 - Sep 14 by 442Dale |
Calvin should have come on at half time so we could go more direct.
Re Shun’s point: We struggled against Blackpool first half with a team that really push up against us. Peterborough play with two centre forwards who would do the same. We have to play differently against these sides, it doesn’t mean smashing it forward but it does mean a safety first philosophy. |
Agree 100%. Grayson at Blackpool is a good manager at our level & worked us out, pressing in midfield when our back 4 had the ball & force errors. They didn’t have a Toney in their side but while I don’t want us to abandon our passing game we’ve got to be a bit more pragmatic against some of the better sides in the league. 1st major test for BBM but I hope we go out, play positively & get back to winning ways on Tuesday. |  | | |
| Peterborough match thread on 19:06 - Sep 14 with 2056 views | frenzied |
A few odd defeats today with Blackpool,Lincoln and Wycombe all losing | | | |
| Peterborough match thread on 19:57 - Sep 14 with 1874 views | Shun |
| Peterborough match thread on 19:06 - Sep 14 by frenzied |
A few odd defeats today with Blackpool,Lincoln and Wycombe all losing |
Lincoln have lost their past few games. |  | | |
| Peterborough match thread on 20:00 - Sep 14 with 1868 views | RAFCBLUE |
19 goals in 7 Rochdale League games. Not sure where that starts a season but I can't remember so many.
Under BBM we are going to play open, we will score goals, we will get punished.
All of this is irrelevant vs the actual realities of our club. We have a bottom third budget so should finish somewhere between 17th and 23rd.
The top six budget wise I think is Ipswich, Sunderland, Rotherham, Portsmouth, Peterborough and Coventry. That should be the top 6.
The explusion of bury and the problems at bolton mean that these promotion seeking teams are having to go for goals. We only have to avoid two places rather than four for it to be a good season.
We should be alright with this squad of players and the football is much better to watch.
There will though be afternoon's like today. |  |
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| Peterborough match thread on 20:06 - Sep 14 with 1835 views | boromat |
I also think today we saw why we're missing Alby. When he plays he's good enough with the ball to play this style of football but gives us the option of going a little long if it's required. You could argue Andrew does this but he's not as good with the ball at his feet.
Hoping for us to bounce back on Tuesday. | |
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| Peterborough match thread on 20:16 - Sep 14 with 1795 views | firgrovedale51 |
Whether we play attractive or ugly it`s points that count and a return of 9 from a possible 21 is not good enough. | | | |
| Peterborough match thread on 20:23 - Sep 14 with 1760 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Peterborough match thread on 20:16 - Sep 14 by firgrovedale51 |
Whether we play attractive or ugly it`s points that count and a return of 9 from a possible 21 is not good enough. |
I really disagree with that.
2 losses in 7 league games. To Sunderland and Peterborough - two of the six teams you'd expect to be up there at the end of the season.
Our most recent best ever points haul in League 1 I think is 68 which is 1.48 per game in 2010/11.
Currently we are taking 1.29 per game. More than adequate for safety from relegation which is the prime aim for any season. | |
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| Peterborough match thread on 20:23 - Sep 14 with 1760 views | 442Dale |
| Peterborough match thread on 20:16 - Sep 14 by firgrovedale51 |
Whether we play attractive or ugly it`s points that count and a return of 9 from a possible 21 is not good enough. |
It’s fine. It would mean 54 points from 42 games, safe with a couple of games left form.
RAFCBLUE’s post makes some good points, it’s just we need to learn that some opposition are better than others at dealing with the way we play about at the back. We can’t persist with it always. Plan B as someone said; sort that and we’ll be ok. | |
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| Peterborough match thread on 20:25 - Sep 14 with 1745 views | firgrovedale51 |
| Peterborough match thread on 20:23 - Sep 14 by 442Dale |
It’s fine. It would mean 54 points from 42 games, safe with a couple of games left form.
RAFCBLUE’s post makes some good points, it’s just we need to learn that some opposition are better than others at dealing with the way we play about at the back. We can’t persist with it always. Plan B as someone said; sort that and we’ll be ok. |
We also can`t stick our heads in the sand. | | | |
| Peterborough match thread on 20:29 - Sep 14 with 1716 views | Nigeriamark |
| Peterborough match thread on 20:23 - Sep 14 by RAFCBLUE |
I really disagree with that.
2 losses in 7 league games. To Sunderland and Peterborough - two of the six teams you'd expect to be up there at the end of the season.
Our most recent best ever points haul in League 1 I think is 68 which is 1.48 per game in 2010/11.
Currently we are taking 1.29 per game. More than adequate for safety from relegation which is the prime aim for any season. |
When I saw our opening fixtures in August and September I would have taken 12 points from 10 games. The Ipswich game was postponed but 1 win in our next 2 games will do for me ( Probably needs to be Lincoln as Fleetwood looks tough). 10th game is now Wycombe who are a bit of a surprise and I think they are in a false position. No easy games but October will be a real test as to our ability to take points from those around or below us |  | | |
| Peterborough match thread on 20:30 - Sep 14 with 1706 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Peterborough match thread on 20:23 - Sep 14 by 442Dale |
It’s fine. It would mean 54 points from 42 games, safe with a couple of games left form.
RAFCBLUE’s post makes some good points, it’s just we need to learn that some opposition are better than others at dealing with the way we play about at the back. We can’t persist with it always. Plan B as someone said; sort that and we’ll be ok. |
I do think that bury's expulsion and Bolton's issues have changed the mentality of the better teams in this League.
Take Bolton, so far this season they have conceeded:
0 vs Coventry
2 vs Wycombe
5 vs Tranmere, Gillingham and Ipswich
6 vs Gillingham
A bad afternoon vs Bolton this season is not scoring a hatful of goals.
That is turn means that goal difference will play a part this season. Already the spread on goal difference is +12 to -22 (Spread of 34)
Compare that in other leagues and you see:
Championship: +7 to -10 (Spread of 17)
League 2: +9 to -7 (Spread of 16)
Teams like Peterborough will have to have a go to score a lot of goals if they want to get in the Top 6 this year because of the bury and Bolton debacle. | |
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| Peterborough match thread on 20:38 - Sep 14 with 1664 views | Cleedale |
| Peterborough match thread on 19:57 - Sep 14 by Shun |
Lincoln have lost their past few games. |
Indeed, they've lost 6 out of their last 7 in all 1st team competitive matches! | | | |
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