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Sam Smiths Pubs 18:17 - Jul 4 with 7810 viewsblackdogblue

Just heard they are reopening from Monday & adding a £1 to every drink, draught, spirits, wine & soft drinks... 😯 ... WTF???


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Sam Smiths Pubs on 22:21 - Jul 5 with 2166 viewsSuddenLad

Sam Smiths Pubs on 21:08 - Jul 5 by D_Alien

There's several Wetherspoons in Manc where you'll get a decent pint for less than £4, two just off St.Peter's Square that are pretty decent


You can get an excellent pint in our own Wetherspoons in Rochdale for £2.

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 23:31 - Jul 5 with 2090 viewsThacks_Rabbits

Sam Smiths Pubs on 22:21 - Jul 5 by SuddenLad

You can get an excellent pint in our own Wetherspoons in Rochdale for £2.


The problem now is I can get 36 cans of various beers or cider for £21, I could sit all day in the sun, in the garden or home made bar, listening to music I want to and having a cig in comfort and spend less than a taxi to and from my nearest local, which is £4 plus a pint.

The days of 9 card, crib, pool killer, lock ins etc are long gone. Killed forever. Local pubs are all but dead now, no banter or fun like their once was. Look at whitty rd and the off shoots like the sawyers dusty and pineapple, all gone. Best pub crawl in Rochdale was whitworth rd. still at least we have more accountants, flats, curry houses etc!

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 23:38 - Jul 5 with 2082 views100notout

Sam Smiths Pubs on 23:31 - Jul 5 by Thacks_Rabbits

The problem now is I can get 36 cans of various beers or cider for £21, I could sit all day in the sun, in the garden or home made bar, listening to music I want to and having a cig in comfort and spend less than a taxi to and from my nearest local, which is £4 plus a pint.

The days of 9 card, crib, pool killer, lock ins etc are long gone. Killed forever. Local pubs are all but dead now, no banter or fun like their once was. Look at whitty rd and the off shoots like the sawyers dusty and pineapple, all gone. Best pub crawl in Rochdale was whitworth rd. still at least we have more accountants, flats, curry houses etc!


Billy no mates 😄

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 00:06 - Jul 6 with 2067 viewsThacks_Rabbits

Sam Smiths Pubs on 23:38 - Jul 5 by 100notout

Billy no mates 😄


You might have a point 😂😂😂

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 11:32 - Jul 7 with 1752 viewsDaleiLama

Sam Smiths Pubs on 20:37 - Jul 4 by foreverhopefulDale

I had a look , and I don’t think it’s the Pheonix Brewery of Heywood, Rochdale. They have beer in cans, to me that is not a way to have real ale. Having it out of a bottle is just about doable or ok, as a substitute for having it out of a hand pump.

Is Magpie a local to Nottingham area , Brewery? I am presuming it is. Are they any good?
[Post edited 4 Jul 2020 20:39]


Definition of real ale.

"What is real ale?
In the early 1970s, CAMRA coined the term ‘real ale’ to describe traditional draught cask beers, distinguishing them from the processed and highly carbonated beers that were promoted by big brewers at that time.
Real ale is a ‘living’ product, which is typically produced and stored in a cask container. In comparison to other types of beer that kill off the yeast and artificially inject the beer with CO2 prior to serving, real ale contains live yeast which continues to condition and ferments the beer until it is served.
Like any artisan product, real ale requires special handling and storing to ensure the quality of taste. Well-kept real ale served at the right temperature should be lively, naturally carbonated and flavourful — representing the pinnacle of brewing art.
To recognise real ale, consumers should opt for beer served from the traditional hand-pull or direct from the cask rather than from a keg line. You can also enjoy real ale served in bottles and cans, as long as they are ‘bottle conditioned’"

I have to confess I don't keep up with what's going on in the brewery industry like I used to do, but I (mistakenly) thought real ale in a can was an oxymoron FHD (due to it not being able to cope with the pressure of secondary fermentation)? I was wrong. It was first done in 2016!

https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2016/09/beer-in-a-can-approved-as-real-ale/

I have to say, CAMRA was always very "snobbish" about definitions and blinkered in their quest, but this was partly out of necessity to ensure the best quality and eliminate short-cuts by brewers or publicans which adversely affected beer quality (top pressure, nitrogenation to create smooth etc etc).

The only canned beer I've drunk in the last 30 years is Brewdog Punk IPA. Beer from a can always used to taste of the can but that is a very pleasant drink on a summer's day although it would not qualify as real ale by CAMRA's definition. Then there's craft beer. Aren't all beers crafted? An excuse to stick an extra quid or two onto a pint if you ask me.

It's all about horses for courses. There's little better than a decent, well kept, fresh pint of real ale at its peak. There's little worse than a bad one too.

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 11:55 - Jul 7 with 1730 viewsDaleiLama

Sam Smiths Pubs on 11:34 - Jul 5 by blackdogblue

I’m pretty sure Old Tom makes appearances on draught now & then and so does Moonraker. Don’t drink real ale but father in law does & is a camra member. Pretty sure it was on in the old post office in Castleton before lockdown. What is the strongest draught real ale nowadays?

In other news, heard Taddy is going up £1.10 a pint to £3.40... scandalous


Quite a lot of those so called "barley wines" or winter warmers - Robbies Old Tom, Lees Moonraker, Owd Roger etc etc are available on draught in the cold months and reduced to being served by the Gill so they are more respected. Is Sams Yorkshire Stingo on draught in the winter?

When I lived in Leicester (40 years ago now), Baz's Bonce Blower was occasionally seen on draught and at beer festivals. That was 12%

https://untappd.com/b/parish-brewery-baz-s-bonce-blower/267657

I also seem to remember another brewery in competition with them back in the day (could have been in Earl Soham?) The problem with making really strong beers is beer yeast dies past a certain % abv. So then they switch to more sugar and wine yeast. I think even that dies at the high teens though. I seem to remember back from those days that 22% abv was the strongest beer in the world (but can't remember if it was British).

Like everything, it has become super-sized. Check this link out. Escalation to the point of madness?

https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2012/10/the-worlds-10-strongest-beers/

To put that into context, the abv of cask strength whisky, which most people add water to in order to appreciate, has an upper limit of 66%! It has to be fortified at those levels. It's a no thanks from me, except to try it to see if it's as bad as I imagine.

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 12:20 - Jul 7 with 1690 viewsD_Alien

Sam Smiths Pubs on 11:55 - Jul 7 by DaleiLama

Quite a lot of those so called "barley wines" or winter warmers - Robbies Old Tom, Lees Moonraker, Owd Roger etc etc are available on draught in the cold months and reduced to being served by the Gill so they are more respected. Is Sams Yorkshire Stingo on draught in the winter?

When I lived in Leicester (40 years ago now), Baz's Bonce Blower was occasionally seen on draught and at beer festivals. That was 12%

https://untappd.com/b/parish-brewery-baz-s-bonce-blower/267657

I also seem to remember another brewery in competition with them back in the day (could have been in Earl Soham?) The problem with making really strong beers is beer yeast dies past a certain % abv. So then they switch to more sugar and wine yeast. I think even that dies at the high teens though. I seem to remember back from those days that 22% abv was the strongest beer in the world (but can't remember if it was British).

Like everything, it has become super-sized. Check this link out. Escalation to the point of madness?

https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2012/10/the-worlds-10-strongest-beers/

To put that into context, the abv of cask strength whisky, which most people add water to in order to appreciate, has an upper limit of 66%! It has to be fortified at those levels. It's a no thanks from me, except to try it to see if it's as bad as I imagine.


I don't get this modern trend towards higher strength ales

If you're out to get your head blown off (or trepanned) by chucking XXX% abv down your neck then fair enough, but most people stop doing that around the age of 19

It's all about the taste, as you're alluding to, and beyond a certain abv it stops being about that for me. The limit on that would be Wobbly Bob at 6% which goes down dangerously easy (not to mention it's after-effects...) but in a sunny beer garden, Windermere Pale at 3.5% is much more enjoyable and lends itself to a session

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 12:25 - Jul 7 with 1682 viewsaleanddale

Sam Smiths Pubs on 12:20 - Jul 7 by D_Alien

I don't get this modern trend towards higher strength ales

If you're out to get your head blown off (or trepanned) by chucking XXX% abv down your neck then fair enough, but most people stop doing that around the age of 19

It's all about the taste, as you're alluding to, and beyond a certain abv it stops being about that for me. The limit on that would be Wobbly Bob at 6% which goes down dangerously easy (not to mention it's after-effects...) but in a sunny beer garden, Windermere Pale at 3.5% is much more enjoyable and lends itself to a session


I agree that whilst i like some of the Craft ales in general they are just to strong and the brewer trying to hard.

Some of the IPA's now at between 5.6 and 6.8 abv are nonsense.

Give me a 3.6% session ale and i am happy.
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Sam Smiths Pubs on 12:27 - Jul 7 with 1679 viewsncfc_chalky

WTF was Brewdog thinking when they sold their ales in dead animals,that squirrel one looks particularly unpleasant,there was nothing good about the idea and thankfully they stopped at a dozen bottles,who in their right mind would buy it?
Does anybody know how much it sold for or at just a mere dozen bottles was it ever for sale?

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 12:43 - Jul 7 with 1654 viewsjudd

Sam Smiths Pubs on 12:20 - Jul 7 by D_Alien

I don't get this modern trend towards higher strength ales

If you're out to get your head blown off (or trepanned) by chucking XXX% abv down your neck then fair enough, but most people stop doing that around the age of 19

It's all about the taste, as you're alluding to, and beyond a certain abv it stops being about that for me. The limit on that would be Wobbly Bob at 6% which goes down dangerously easy (not to mention it's after-effects...) but in a sunny beer garden, Windermere Pale at 3.5% is much more enjoyable and lends itself to a session


Isn't Wobbly Bob brewed at Phoenix in Heywood now?

Vicious stuff.


As is Brains' Skull Attack.

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 12:49 - Jul 7 with 1634 viewsD_Alien

Sam Smiths Pubs on 12:43 - Jul 7 by judd

Isn't Wobbly Bob brewed at Phoenix in Heywood now?

Vicious stuff.


As is Brains' Skull Attack.


It is, and regularly features on the bar at the Regal Moon

And you're right, it goes down viciously

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 13:16 - Jul 7 with 1611 viewsblackdogblue

Sam Smiths Pubs on 11:55 - Jul 7 by DaleiLama

Quite a lot of those so called "barley wines" or winter warmers - Robbies Old Tom, Lees Moonraker, Owd Roger etc etc are available on draught in the cold months and reduced to being served by the Gill so they are more respected. Is Sams Yorkshire Stingo on draught in the winter?

When I lived in Leicester (40 years ago now), Baz's Bonce Blower was occasionally seen on draught and at beer festivals. That was 12%

https://untappd.com/b/parish-brewery-baz-s-bonce-blower/267657

I also seem to remember another brewery in competition with them back in the day (could have been in Earl Soham?) The problem with making really strong beers is beer yeast dies past a certain % abv. So then they switch to more sugar and wine yeast. I think even that dies at the high teens though. I seem to remember back from those days that 22% abv was the strongest beer in the world (but can't remember if it was British).

Like everything, it has become super-sized. Check this link out. Escalation to the point of madness?

https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2012/10/the-worlds-10-strongest-beers/

To put that into context, the abv of cask strength whisky, which most people add water to in order to appreciate, has an upper limit of 66%! It has to be fortified at those levels. It's a no thanks from me, except to try it to see if it's as bad as I imagine.


Yorkshire Stingo is brewed once a year at harvest time & is only available in bottles and is best part of £10 each...

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 17:30 - Jul 7 with 1499 viewsSandyman

Sam Smiths Pubs on 13:16 - Jul 7 by blackdogblue

Yorkshire Stingo is brewed once a year at harvest time & is only available in bottles and is best part of £10 each...


Just a tad(dies) more expensive than their regular brews then...
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Sam Smiths Pubs on 18:56 - Jul 7 with 1435 viewsYadHoDale

Sam Smiths Pubs on 13:16 - Jul 7 by blackdogblue

Yorkshire Stingo is brewed once a year at harvest time & is only available in bottles and is best part of £10 each...


Bloody gorgeous stuff though.
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Sam Smiths Pubs on 09:55 - Jul 8 with 1305 viewsDaleiLama

Hear, hear to the lower gravity session beers. Coniston Bluebird goes down really nicely. Oakham Citra is a delight. Rooster beers are lovely too ….. in fact much as it pains me to say, there are a lot of very good beers (to my taste) brewed in Yarkshire these days.

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 12:08 - Jul 8 with 1246 viewsFrog

I used to be a rep for Sam Smiths, very strange owners and company, didn't stay long.
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Sam Smiths Pubs on 12:31 - Jul 8 with 1226 viewsD_Alien

Sam Smiths Pubs on 09:55 - Jul 8 by DaleiLama

Hear, hear to the lower gravity session beers. Coniston Bluebird goes down really nicely. Oakham Citra is a delight. Rooster beers are lovely too ….. in fact much as it pains me to say, there are a lot of very good beers (to my taste) brewed in Yarkshire these days.


Re Bluebird - it's the geraniums that does it

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 12:54 - Jul 8 with 1193 viewsDaleiLama

Sam Smiths Pubs on 12:31 - Jul 8 by D_Alien

Re Bluebird - it's the geraniums that does it


No …… it's brewed in the lakes, but the Geraniums make some good beers too, especially the Kolsch for a hot summer's day! (I've never tasted geraniums in it I must admit).

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 13:02 - Jul 8 with 1185 viewsD_Alien

Sam Smiths Pubs on 12:54 - Jul 8 by DaleiLama

No …… it's brewed in the lakes, but the Geraniums make some good beers too, especially the Kolsch for a hot summer's day! (I've never tasted geraniums in it I must admit).


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So who has ventured out and had a hand pulled pint. I went out last night and had 2 pints of Taylor’s Landlord. My first hand pulled beer since the Newcastle United Home game so I've waited longer than most. It tasted fabulous
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Sam Smiths Pubs on 14:12 - Jul 8 with 1110 viewsD_Alien

Sam Smiths Pubs on 14:00 - Jul 8 by Nigeriamark

So who has ventured out and had a hand pulled pint. I went out last night and had 2 pints of Taylor’s Landlord. My first hand pulled beer since the Newcastle United Home game so I've waited longer than most. It tasted fabulous


Tried a couple of places

Pint Pot on Baillie St on Saturday, and the White Lion in Delph on Monday

Excellent ales in both, and everyone pretty sensible but relaxed about it

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 14:28 - Jul 8 with 1090 viewsnordenblue

Sam Smiths Pubs on 13:16 - Jul 7 by blackdogblue

Yorkshire Stingo is brewed once a year at harvest time & is only available in bottles and is best part of £10 each...


I've just ordered a few bottles of it on the strength of folks comments on here,so I'll see what its like
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Sam Smiths Pubs on 14:54 - Jul 8 with 1066 viewsjudd

Sam Smiths Pubs on 14:12 - Jul 8 by D_Alien

Tried a couple of places

Pint Pot on Baillie St on Saturday, and the White Lion in Delph on Monday

Excellent ales in both, and everyone pretty sensible but relaxed about it


I hope that wasn't a pub crawl.



Jesus...

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Sam Smiths Pubs on 14:59 - Jul 8 with 1053 viewsD_Alien

Sam Smiths Pubs on 14:54 - Jul 8 by judd

I hope that wasn't a pub crawl.



Jesus...


If it was, it was so bloody good i can't remember Sunday

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