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Looking ahead to Next Season 16:16 - Apr 6 with 4190 views49thseason

Which ever division we are playing in, this coming Summer has a whole raft of players coming to the end of their contracts. By my reckoning we only have 9 players contracted for next season:
Morley,
Humphrys
Newby
Beesley
Rathbone
Grant
Shaughnessy
Brierley
Odoh
Dunne has another 1year option

Reaching the end of their current deals are McLaughlin, McNulty, McShane, O'Connell, Dooley, Lynch, Keohane, Done, Ryan, Lund, Baah, Hopper and Bradley. Going back to parent clubs are Bazunu, Roberts, Osho and Vale

How many of the OOC players would anyone realistically re-sign? For me, O'Connell, Lynch Keohane Lund would be favourites O'C and Lund being good enough for L1 should we manage what is looking more unlikely and stay up, Lynch as a Number 2 keeper (or Brad Wade if they think he is anywhere near ready) and Keohane simply for his versatility. This means signing an almost entirely new defence! Does anyone realistically think Baah might re-sign?

That would give us 1 Goalkeeper
1 Centre Half, plus Dunne if they take up his 1 year option.
7 midfielders (including Keohane)
4 forwards + Baah?
Hopper and Bradley ??
Peter Thomas and Kacper Mialkowski I presume will be kept.

I really don't want another on-loan keeper, indeed where possible I think I would avoid loanee defenders altogether and try and bring in a couple of pacey forwards.

I think we need to say thankyou and farewell to a number of players who are blighted by injuries, if you have a small squad anyway, the risk of them having long term injuries is too great.







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Looking ahead to Next Season on 21:42 - Apr 6 with 1578 viewsfinberty

Looking ahead to Next Season on 21:13 - Apr 6 by 49thseason

Agreed, damn lies and all that however, Bazunu isn't demonstrably better than Lynch on any measurement, and I accept that Lillis wasn't the worst keeper we ever had by a long chalk but bringing in loanee keepers season after season isn't exactly an incentive to the lads in the Youth and Academy teams. There are loads of competent keepers in the EFL competing for 92 1st team places I don't believe we cant find one at sensible money that we might eventually sell on rather than keep borrowing somebody's 5th choice.


Is this the same Lillis who was Player of the Season a while back?
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Looking ahead to Next Season on 23:06 - Apr 6 with 1452 viewsfitzochris

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Looking ahead to Next Season on 08:10 - Apr 7 with 1352 viewsJames1980

Looking ahead to Next Season on 23:06 - Apr 6 by fitzochris

Talking of loan keepers, Joel Castro Pereira has had an interesting evening...


He made a few saves according to the stats so could have been double figures

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Looking ahead to Next Season on 08:50 - Apr 7 with 1316 viewsBucketBstard

Looking ahead to Next Season on 17:11 - Apr 6 by ChaffRAFC

Lets face it, this summer is a case of building for League Two.

Of the out of contract players you'd ideally keep Lund, O'Connell and Baah. Baah, I doubt very much we'll see him next season as his future obviously lies further up the ladder. You could argue that about O'Connell as well but he's not been as impressive this season as he was last either. Lund has been superb but is known to have injury issues and I think is much more achievable in keeping. I know Jimmy Keohane has done well this season but I think that's a clear sign of where we are as a club and not how good Jimmy is. He's also the wrong side of 30 now as well. He's possible worth a one year deal on a reduced wage. The rest can go. They're either not good enough or not on the pitch enough and there will be some big wages in that lot too.

This coming summer is a huge one in terms of recruitment given the amount of contracted players we have and the fact that some of them are players that have been brought in with the future in mind instead of the now.

The goalkeeper situation is a tricky one, I'd release Lynch as he's not a steady number one keeper and Brad Wade has won enough plaudits to warrant being our backup keeper. I disagree with the OP about the use of the loan market. I like loan keepers and think we've done very well out of them overall. It's a way of saving on a wage while getting a usually fairly high standard keeper, admittedly Bazunu was potentially two years too early for us. I'd be more than happy for us to loan a keeper again.

We have no idea on the budget, or how financially f****d we really are so it's anyone's guess really but recruitment has to be spot on this summer and on the whole, BBM's recruitment has been decent, we just need to stop signing players with a history of missing too much through injury.


Have to disagree there BBM recruitment is poor, it consists of Irish connections or very injury prone players that waste a wage .
But he is a highly regarded manager so his influence with bigger clubs will mean we get brilliant loanees ...... errrrrr. Cant see anyone giving us a potential Beckham after this disasterous season.
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Looking ahead to Next Season on 12:58 - Apr 7 with 1206 viewsAtThePeake

Looking ahead to Next Season on 21:22 - Apr 6 by 442Dale

In his last game before Monday, the 4-1 home defeat by Gillingham, he made a poor error for the first and should have done better with the second. He’s never looked anything more than a stop-gap in the same way the likes of Brendan Moore was, and certainly never going to be a first choice but it could be that he fits budget wise. He was, however, in goal when we’ve had our best wins at Plymouth and Wigan.
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For me, those Plymouth and Wigan games are more examples of how the stats have suited him. Both of those sides had two shots on target in those games and the opposition seemed to more or less give up on both occasions once we'd built a comfortable early lead.

In addition to the Gills game, I thought he should've done better with at least one of the goals at Peterborough, the long-range goal from Montsma vs Lincoln and there were a couple last season too I thought he could've done better with, plus his lack of height and command of his area makes us even more susceptible from set-pieces and crosses than usual.

By no means a Bazunu fan but Lynch isn't the answer either.

Tangled up in blue.

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Looking ahead to Next Season on 13:27 - Apr 7 with 1168 viewsD_Alien

Looking ahead to Next Season on 12:58 - Apr 7 by AtThePeake

For me, those Plymouth and Wigan games are more examples of how the stats have suited him. Both of those sides had two shots on target in those games and the opposition seemed to more or less give up on both occasions once we'd built a comfortable early lead.

In addition to the Gills game, I thought he should've done better with at least one of the goals at Peterborough, the long-range goal from Montsma vs Lincoln and there were a couple last season too I thought he could've done better with, plus his lack of height and command of his area makes us even more susceptible from set-pieces and crosses than usual.

By no means a Bazunu fan but Lynch isn't the answer either.


I don't think anyone's saying Lynch is the answer, in terms of being touted as a longer term No.1 keeper; i'm adamant that he's less of a risk than Bazunu in the short term

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Looking ahead to Next Season on 13:34 - Apr 7 with 1144 viewsAtThePeake

Looking ahead to Next Season on 13:27 - Apr 7 by D_Alien

I don't think anyone's saying Lynch is the answer, in terms of being touted as a longer term No.1 keeper; i'm adamant that he's less of a risk than Bazunu in the short term

[Post edited 7 Apr 2021 13:28]


Is there an option for 'both as bad as each other?'

Tangled up in blue.

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Looking ahead to Next Season on 13:34 - Apr 7 with 1137 views442Dale

Looking ahead to Next Season on 13:34 - Apr 7 by AtThePeake

Is there an option for 'both as bad as each other?'


Play one when we have the ball, one when the opposition are shooting?

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Looking ahead to Next Season on 13:41 - Apr 7 with 1117 viewsD_Alien

Looking ahead to Next Season on 13:34 - Apr 7 by AtThePeake

Is there an option for 'both as bad as each other?'


Competing at being bad would only confirm that Lynch is indeed competition for Bazunu


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Looking ahead to Next Season on 13:52 - Apr 7 with 1087 viewselectricblue

I would like Dale to try and keep Lund, O'Connell, Ryan, Baah, Keobane, humphrys.

But like many others have said the next few months are going to be very interesting in many ways more so financially...

Will CD become the chair thats a big issue and if so when!.

Do Dale really need to waste valuable funds on a football director! when that money vould help the manager(who he is) to keep players like Rathbone or EOC at the club even Baah..

If Baah stays and as a good season on which evet lge Dale are in he could generate much needed funds.....

My all time favourite Dale player Mr Lyndon Symmonds

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Looking ahead to Next Season on 14:17 - Apr 7 with 1050 viewsBigKindo

Looking ahead to Next Season on 13:52 - Apr 7 by electricblue

I would like Dale to try and keep Lund, O'Connell, Ryan, Baah, Keobane, humphrys.

But like many others have said the next few months are going to be very interesting in many ways more so financially...

Will CD become the chair thats a big issue and if so when!.

Do Dale really need to waste valuable funds on a football director! when that money vould help the manager(who he is) to keep players like Rathbone or EOC at the club even Baah..

If Baah stays and as a good season on which evet lge Dale are in he could generate much needed funds.....


Ryan is equally injury prone as are others.
The best late Spring/early Summer signing would be Chris Dunphy.
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Looking ahead to Next Season on 15:09 - Apr 7 with 989 viewsSaxonDale

Obviously a lot depends on which league we’re in but the most important thing is we give ourselves as much chance as possible of having a settled 11 for as long as we can all season. Too often we’ve had to juggle our squad around due to injuries and whilst we’ve been unfortunate in that a fair few have been in-game injuries, we can’t afford to carry 4/5 players with dubious injury records.

As an aside- he’s done ok in spells this season, but Keohane shouldn’t be playing more than 15 games a season, regardless of league. Would offer him a new contract, but wouldn’t if McLaughlin was also hetting
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Looking ahead to Next Season on 15:17 - Apr 7 with 966 viewsTomRAFC

I think we need to start questioning the idea that BBM's recruitment has been good. It feels like a leftover from the "great footballing brain" theory that has since been debunked.

The players may seem decent because they aren't objectively horrendous (Michael Simpkins style) but the majority of his signings (or the signings he played a major part in under Hill) simply aren't good enough for this level. That's not good recruitment.

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Looking ahead to Next Season on 15:55 - Apr 7 with 914 viewsAtThePeake

Looking ahead to Next Season on 15:17 - Apr 7 by TomRAFC

I think we need to start questioning the idea that BBM's recruitment has been good. It feels like a leftover from the "great footballing brain" theory that has since been debunked.

The players may seem decent because they aren't objectively horrendous (Michael Simpkins style) but the majority of his signings (or the signings he played a major part in under Hill) simply aren't good enough for this level. That's not good recruitment.


I disagree, hence why I'm so frustrated by the rest of his management. If you look at the players that he has signed based on ability I honestly believe they are mostly L1 standard players, but it's poor management to have not been able to get the best out of them on a consistent basis and signing too many players with bad injury records. We can carry one or two, but not the amount we have.

O'Connell, Ryan, McShane, Humphrys, Lund, Osho and Baah are all good players at this level when fit. Sanchez and Norrington-Davies were clearly above L1 level. Players like Newby, Beesley, Grant and Roberts have shown glimpses of their capabilities but not been consistent at all.

When you compare that to previous seasons (look at 17/18 for example when our best two signings were Done and Nthle by quite some distance despite them both being nothing more than decent), it's a pretty impressive record in the transfer market, making it all the more disappointing that we're completely failing to get the best out of the players we have available.

Tangled up in blue.

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Looking ahead to Next Season on 16:30 - Apr 7 with 854 views49thseason

Looking ahead to Next Season on 13:34 - Apr 7 by AtThePeake

Is there an option for 'both as bad as each other?'


Essentially, that is what the stats are saying. After 38 games you can,t point to a single game where either keeper has earned us a point. Neither seems to organise the defence and generally take charge as you would expect a decent keeper to do. A good keeper is the General mobilising his troops. My biggest criticism of Lillis was his lack of taking charge and organising. Logan by comparison was great at it.
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Looking ahead to Next Season on 16:39 - Apr 7 with 842 viewsTVOS1907

Looking ahead to Next Season on 16:30 - Apr 7 by 49thseason

Essentially, that is what the stats are saying. After 38 games you can,t point to a single game where either keeper has earned us a point. Neither seems to organise the defence and generally take charge as you would expect a decent keeper to do. A good keeper is the General mobilising his troops. My biggest criticism of Lillis was his lack of taking charge and organising. Logan by comparison was great at it.


While I agree with most of what you say, Bazunu did make a fantastic low save at Charlton in the closing minutes with the scoreline at 4-4.

Undoubted knowledge? Or just the application of common sense and using my brain?

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Looking ahead to Next Season on 16:39 - Apr 7 with 844 views49thseason

Looking ahead to Next Season on 15:55 - Apr 7 by AtThePeake

I disagree, hence why I'm so frustrated by the rest of his management. If you look at the players that he has signed based on ability I honestly believe they are mostly L1 standard players, but it's poor management to have not been able to get the best out of them on a consistent basis and signing too many players with bad injury records. We can carry one or two, but not the amount we have.

O'Connell, Ryan, McShane, Humphrys, Lund, Osho and Baah are all good players at this level when fit. Sanchez and Norrington-Davies were clearly above L1 level. Players like Newby, Beesley, Grant and Roberts have shown glimpses of their capabilities but not been consistent at all.

When you compare that to previous seasons (look at 17/18 for example when our best two signings were Done and Nthle by quite some distance despite them both being nothing more than decent), it's a pretty impressive record in the transfer market, making it all the more disappointing that we're completely failing to get the best out of the players we have available.


My YouTube threw up Rochdale 5 MKD 0 from 2007 last night, Dale were absolutely brilliant and a more stark comparison to where we have now arrived at would be hard to imagine. The pace in the team was incredible, the ball was moved out from the back amazingly quickly. How anyone could imagine that tippy tappy is a better option is difficult to imagine... TV and the coaching manualsmhave a lo to answer for.
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Looking ahead to Next Season on 16:52 - Apr 7 with 829 viewsShun

Looking ahead to Next Season on 16:39 - Apr 7 by 49thseason

My YouTube threw up Rochdale 5 MKD 0 from 2007 last night, Dale were absolutely brilliant and a more stark comparison to where we have now arrived at would be hard to imagine. The pace in the team was incredible, the ball was moved out from the back amazingly quickly. How anyone could imagine that tippy tappy is a better option is difficult to imagine... TV and the coaching manualsmhave a lo to answer for.


So much faster, more offensive and, crucially, more simple. Nothing overcomplicated, just get the ball and focus on going forward. Depressing how different we look now. The only thing I don't miss about that era is the standard of camera for the highlights.
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Looking ahead to Next Season on 17:38 - Apr 7 with 781 viewsfunkkk

Looking ahead to Next Season on 16:39 - Apr 7 by 49thseason

My YouTube threw up Rochdale 5 MKD 0 from 2007 last night, Dale were absolutely brilliant and a more stark comparison to where we have now arrived at would be hard to imagine. The pace in the team was incredible, the ball was moved out from the back amazingly quickly. How anyone could imagine that tippy tappy is a better option is difficult to imagine... TV and the coaching manualsmhave a lo to answer for.


Upsetting.

An absolute masterclass from John Doolan 😂
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Looking ahead to Next Season on 17:51 - Apr 7 with 761 viewselectricblue

Looking ahead to Next Season on 14:17 - Apr 7 by BigKindo

Ryan is equally injury prone as are others.
The best late Spring/early Summer signing would be Chris Dunphy.


Well certainly hope that Dunphy takes over the chair and gets the club back to where it was a few years ago.

What i fear is that Dunphy should he become chair finds the clubs situation far worse than thought and the job is tougher....

My all time favourite Dale player Mr Lyndon Symmonds

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