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Reply | I hope this is and stays just a rumour.
at 15:05 14 Jun 2024
I'm very hopeful Nourry drags us into the 21st century kicking and screaming. I've been quite impressed with a lot of what he's done so far, and he certainly seems engaged and proactive on a number of fronts when, as said, the people running the club before him felt like they'd tried hard, burned themselves out, and were pretty much checked out and defeated.
One thing Lee Hoos did say at the last fans forum though, and I've been guilty of this over the years, is that if you're going to look at Brighton and Brentford specifically you've got to appreciate the business their owners are in, the technology and system they've got at their disposal to run and operate those businesses, and if not accept defeat then just accept that it's a bit of a special case. There's a reason clubs that used to lose bottom division league fixtures to Scunthorpe are now in the top flight beating Man Utd up. The sort of data and analytics those two are privvy to is a pipe dream even for the likes of Liverpool, Man Utd etc.
We should be doing loads better though. Listening to that Jimmy Dunne podcast he said he was at Chelsea for a trial as a 14 year old, and they took blood samples etc, got a whole genetic profile and make up of his family, and were able to predict exactly where, how and how much his body would develop and grow over the next six years. He said when they didn't take him up and sign him they actually gave him the files so he could show it to other clubs. When you compare those sorts of levels to us, for instance, signing Taylor Richards... or persisting for long periods of time with Aaron Drewe, Rafferty Pedder etc...
Nourry's also introduced interviews for prospective signings. Everybody who signs here now is interviewed by the club as part of a big bulked up character and background check.
Like I say, I'm quite encouraged by him, but I think comparisons to brighton and brentford (and look I've made loads over the years) are probs unhelpful/unrealistic. |
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Reply | New Away kit .
at 14:58 14 Jun 2024
I'll look forward to that thread then. |
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Reply | Armstrong extended
at 14:57 14 Jun 2024
Is it time for the Joel Lynch sizzle reel? |
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Reply | General Election Thread
at 14:56 14 Jun 2024
Having disparaged this thread yesterday can I say it has actually been enlightening, as with the poster who worked in the licensing trade a dozen or so pages back, when somebody who knows what they're talking about adds input, so thank you. |
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Reply | Armstrong extended
at 13:25 14 Jun 2024
Nuance? That's our secret word for the day!
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Reply | General Election Thread
at 11:32 14 Jun 2024
I think that second par is basically where I’m coming from. It’s a very difficult road out of here whichever way we head, totally agree. |
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Reply | General Election Thread
at 09:41 14 Jun 2024
Sounds great. Long fcking road to get to there though, and absolutely not simple or plain sailing along the way. You can’t just suddenly turn around and say it’s £60 an hour to clean your pub, or £15 for a bag of potatoes, there’d be riots.things like hospitality would largely collapse.
It’s like this current campaign where everybody is pretending they’re going to repair crumbling public services while not raising taxes. Good luck with that. |
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Reply | General Election Thread
at 09:17 14 Jun 2024
I’m not disagreeing with you, but again you’d then have to have an honest conversation with people about why British produce is so expensive, or why care homes are completely extortionate, and you’d make things like our farms uncompetitive. It’s more of a vicious cycle than a pyramid. I don’t know what the answer is, it’s not an easy one for sure whatever some want you to believe. |
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Reply | General Election Thread
at 08:59 14 Jun 2024
Doesn't the issue become more acute the lower down you go though?
I agree with you and Steve, kids should be sold apprenticeships and learning a trade like yours as opposed to going to the University of Stoke for David Beckham studies. You can earn good money doing some of that stuff - plastering, plumbing, leccy... it's skilled, it's always in demand, be your own boss etc. I know a lot of people exactly like you said working in bars into their 20s and 30s nursing a pointless degree and associated debt.
But where I'm from a lot of the so-called menial jobs were incredibly grim. It's 8 hours in a field picking spuds, or on a line gutting fish, or lugging stuff around the steel works.
That's a hard sell to any kid or parent. It's fair enough for people to aspire to better than that for their kids. This is why it makes me laugh when people say we should only allow immigration to the highly skilled, best and brightest etc. What, so they can do the cool jobs and the British kids can get on with all the fruit picking?
If you paid the money to attract them into that work then suddenly a bag of potatoes would cost £10+ and people would have a duck fit. Well, they wouldn't, we'd just buy the foreign ones cheaper and that'd be the end of British farming.
It's very complicated this, with no simple or quick solutions, but it suits certain politicians and media outlets to pretend the opposite. |
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Reply | General Election Thread
at 20:14 13 Jun 2024
Go on then, let's try and make it productive and have everybody's...
- top three learnings from the thread so far?
- And are you voting any different to how you were at the start? |
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Reply | Clive.
at 20:01 13 Jun 2024
Come on we've all had a drink. |
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Reply | General Election Thread
at 19:36 13 Jun 2024
Good to see that when we do have these threads everybody still thinks the same thing as they did before, and it still goes round in the same circles, and nobody thinks any different by the end. |
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Reply | Armstrong extended
at 17:02 13 Jun 2024
Cheers Lynd, good luck with the recovery.  |
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Reply | I hope this is and stays just a rumour.
at 16:46 13 Jun 2024
Pretty much my thoughts as well.
But I think we're kidding ourselves that if Burnley (I don't think they've even heard of him TBH, star fckers as somebody else said) offered him their job he wouldn't go there. He would, IMO. |
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Reply | Armstrong extended
at 16:37 13 Jun 2024
The Sheff Wed home game was a bit of an eye-opener, and should really have been calming his agent down and cooling any interest.
We were very guilty of getting lazy and just whacking Ainsworth style channel balls over the top for him (did the same thing twice against the same opposition last season). I believe this is the game that Cifuentes just spent the first half saying "clip that" to the video guy they have on the bench, then at half time asked the players what they thought was wrong before showing them 20 clips.
However, those two Wednesday CBs were ropey but they were strong, and quick. As strong and quick as he was. And he had... nothing in response to that.
And I say that as a fan of his. Would be very disappointed to see him go. Think he may explode somewhere else, or here if he stays.
But, yeh, agent's being a knob. |
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Reply | I hope this is and stays just a rumour.
at 16:11 13 Jun 2024
He's very good at what he does. He's very focused and driven. He's a career progression guy. He doesn't stay anywhere very long. If a better offer comes he'll take it. It's mainly just cynical logic. Maybe he's so bowled over by us all signing about paella and Estrella that he's fallen totally in love, will stay for years and name his kids Stan and Rodney. I doubt it.
I'd be very disappointed if he went to Sunderland though. Looks like bloody chaos up there. |
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Reply | I hope this is and stays just a rumour.
at 16:01 13 Jun 2024
Cifuentes will leave for the first decent offer he gets.
I'd be surprised if Sunderland counts as that, but at the same time I wouldn't get too attached. |
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Reply | General Election Thread
at 21:06 12 Jun 2024
Can we get to the bit where somebody in the Sky call centre has a look into his file and leaks that he was a subscriber all along? WITH MOVIES. |
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