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Am trying to work out who else is missing... Washington is obviously still resting post-Euros. What is the status of that lazy (when not trying to earn a new contract) lump Hoillet? I see that they will be trying hard to get rid of both Tozser and Matty Philips this summer as well as begging anyone and everyone to take Sandro and Fer off of our hands... Bit of a relief to see Smithies travel after him being "injured" again on Friday and having that feeling that there is something they are not telling us about what is going on there....
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Holland pre-season tour... squad on 08:39 - Jul 3 with 6449 views
So weak out wide - Gladwin has been pretty much hopeless to date and Petrasso looks too small for the Championship and has also been pretty ineffectual so far.
Need a big physical presence in the middle still and unless we're going to see miraculous changes in both JET's attitude and his relationship with JFH, at least one more up top.
Still struggling on why we needed Bidwell; we were alright (if not great) at left back...
Holland pre-season tour... squad on 08:59 - Jul 3 by davman
So weak out wide - Gladwin has been pretty much hopeless to date and Petrasso looks too small for the Championship and has also been pretty ineffectual so far.
Need a big physical presence in the middle still and unless we're going to see miraculous changes in both JET's attitude and his relationship with JFH, at least one more up top.
Still struggling on why we needed Bidwell; we were alright (if not great) at left back...
Need a bloody right back; that a'int Ned...
Disagree about Petrasso, for the limited game time he's had I think he's looked very promising.
I'm sure the club would have wanted to have signed new attackers for this trip by now. Hopefully holding the door open for Hoilett isn't at the expense of that...
Furlong is there and deserving a chance at RB if Ned and Perch continue to make a pig's ear of it.
Said my bit about Caulker's involvement elsewhere and it's only more annoying to see us be decisive with Phillips and Tozser but not with him. We should be drilling a settled first choice backline during this pre-season and indulging a overpaid wantaway just gets in the way of that. We sign Borysiuk to move on from Tozser, we sign Lynch and waste time flirting with Caulker? I really don't get it.
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Holland pre-season tour... squad on 10:11 - Jul 3 with 6228 views
Looking At this squad I think we are going to be finishing anywhere from 10th-18th next season But it looks like a squad of players that would actually want to play for QPR so that's a massive plus
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Holland pre-season tour... squad on 10:51 - Jul 3 with 6117 views
Holland pre-season tour... squad on 10:32 - Jul 3 by LowerloftLad
Looking At this squad I think we are going to be finishing anywhere from 10th-18th next season But it looks like a squad of players that would actually want to play for QPR so that's a massive plus
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We just signed three players in nine days and the season doesn't start for five weeks.... it's too soon to judge.
Even when we won the league we all predicted mid table anyway.
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Holland pre-season tour... squad on 11:10 - Jul 3 with 6067 views
The Goalkeeping and Defence looks as strong as i can remember, although im slightly concerned about the first choice right back perch ?. IMO the midfield looks ripe for a beasting every week. Blander and weaker than listening to Manhatten Transfer in a lift. Still a good month for JFH to sort this area out .
At a push, I dont think theres more than 30 goals shared out between Chery, Polter and washington. Happy to be proved wrong.
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Holland pre-season tour... squad on 11:12 - Jul 3 with 6056 views
Holland pre-season tour... squad on 10:32 - Jul 3 by LowerloftLad
Looking At this squad I think we are going to be finishing anywhere from 10th-18th next season But it looks like a squad of players that would actually want to play for QPR so that's a massive plus
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I concur
Looks a weak squad I think. Seems I won't be getting PaulParker lagging over our dark horses exchange though!!!
Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal
Struggle in what sense though?? Based on a lack of perceived quality going forward? How many times have we seen sides/squads who are fit, with a game plan punch above their weight?
I just in Jimmy, I am sure there will be more additions coming in but even if we were to start the season with that squad we would be hard to beat and no one would enjoy playing against us.
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Holland pre-season tour... squad on 12:07 - Jul 3 with 5907 views
Holland pre-season tour... squad on 12:00 - Jul 3 by DubaiR
Struggle in what sense though?? Based on a lack of perceived quality going forward? How many times have we seen sides/squads who are fit, with a game plan punch above their weight?
I just in Jimmy, I am sure there will be more additions coming in but even if we were to start the season with that squad we would be hard to beat and no one would enjoy playing against us.
Struggle in that it wouldn't score any goals. I trust them too, it'll look a lot better in a month's time.
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Holland pre-season tour... squad on 12:20 - Jul 3 with 5872 views
You assume/hope that we're going to bring in at least a couple more attacking players. We've had interest knocked back for at least one winger and striker, so I'm sure they're aware of how feeble the squad is up front.
Looks to me that JFH has spent what budget he had before outgoings on the defence, but that Phillips' agent has been told to get him a new club and off the wage bill. At that point, you'd think we'll bring a replacement.
If Sandro hadn't fainted during his medical in Portugal, we might have had a couple more onboard already.
It's STILL central midfield that worries me.
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Holland pre-season tour... squad on 12:33 - Jul 3 with 5826 views
JFH doing exactly what u thought he would, building from the back, a strong defensive unit. The midfield is weak, which in sure he knows. One more striker would do.
Holland pre-season tour... squad on 12:20 - Jul 3 by DubaiR
I see us winning a lot of games 1-0, similar to Burton did.
Even with the squad as it (but agree it will look better in a month) you would fancy:
Polter - 12 Chery - 10 JET - 5 Washington - 12 Midfield - 10 between them Defence - 10
That is 59 goals ish with no one having an amazing season, how many goals do typical top 6 sides score (I don't know).
This seems incredibly optimistic to me...
What sort of tune we can get out of Luongo and Gladwin (particularly the former) will shape our season I think.... the signings we make in midfield and attack will be based on JFH's bets on those two. To us they're pretty much a pair of walking question marks - hopefully the club have a clearer opinion.
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Holland pre-season tour... squad on 12:54 - Jul 3 with 5756 views
Holland pre-season tour... squad on 12:20 - Jul 3 by DubaiR
I see us winning a lot of games 1-0, similar to Burton did.
Even with the squad as it (but agree it will look better in a month) you would fancy:
Polter - 12 Chery - 10 JET - 5 Washington - 12 Midfield - 10 between them Defence - 10
That is 59 goals ish with no one having an amazing season, how many goals do typical top 6 sides score (I don't know).
I'm not being deliberately pessimistic or critical here, because like I say I think the squad will look very different in a month's time and I think they will get it right, but when has the midfield and defence we have at our disposal at the moment ever given any indication at all that it's capable of scoring 20 goals?
We got two goals from central midfield in the whole of last season - one from Tozser and one from Henry - and so far we've only added the Polish lad to them, so unless he's getting eight I just don't see the logic behind that at all.
All pointless really, let's assess again at this point in August.
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Holland pre-season tour... squad on 12:59 - Jul 3 with 5736 views
Holland pre-season tour... squad on 12:20 - Jul 3 by DubaiR
I see us winning a lot of games 1-0, similar to Burton did.
Even with the squad as it (but agree it will look better in a month) you would fancy:
Polter - 12 Chery - 10 JET - 5 Washington - 12 Midfield - 10 between them Defence - 10
That is 59 goals ish with no one having an amazing season, how many goals do typical top 6 sides score (I don't know).
Well Middlesbrough managed to get automatic promotion last year only scoring 63 and Burnley 72. They both had tight defences though, Burnley conceding 35 and Boro 31.
When we got promoted in 2013/14 we only scored 60 and conceded 44 and Hull in 2012/13 somehow managed to cobble 79 points together and automatic promotion from only scoring 61 and conceding 52 but that's not typical.
Generally most top 6 teams score minimum 65-70 goals. Last season's top 6 from 3rd to 6th scored 72, 69, 66, 66 respectively
Looking at the squad at the moment and if Phillips and Hoilett are off we are very weak out wide. One light in centre mid and at least one more striker. Defence looks fine and keepers ok.
For me Callum Harriot is a player we should go get off Charlton. Another would be Viarra(?) from Wolves although might be expensive. Kanu Robson would be a great free signing but his stock is going up all the time.
If Fer and Phillips are off then that will be close to 9m to spend. Hopefully Sandra as well.
Smells like a trout farm in here
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Holland pre-season tour... squad on 14:17 - Jul 3 with 5568 views
I'm not sure about our squad strength but I'm more hopeful than last season than when we had "on paper" some of the biggest name players in the division...
Who'd have thought (even with the psychological benefits of having just been promoted) this Preston squad would have finished one place above us this time last season; scoring 45 (9 less than us) and conceding 45 (9 less than we did)...
Holland pre-season tour... squad on 14:00 - Jul 3 by HAYESBOY
Looking at the squad at the moment and if Phillips and Hoilett are off we are very weak out wide. One light in centre mid and at least one more striker. Defence looks fine and keepers ok.
For me Callum Harriot is a player we should go get off Charlton. Another would be Viarra(?) from Wolves although might be expensive. Kanu Robson would be a great free signing but his stock is going up all the time.
If Fer and Phillips are off then that will be close to 9m to spend. Hopefully Sandra as well.
Took me a while but "Viarra" would be van la Parra... went to Huddersfield on a free after a spell there on loan. Game against us was one of his rare good ones.
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Holland pre-season tour... squad on 18:10 - Jul 3 with 5258 views
I think that squad has some real positives in that the defence and keeping positions have been sorted early and we have cover in pretty much every area. The midfield needs attention if we're going to get any sort of ammunition up to the forwards. However, unlike last season's pre-season fiasco, this looks like a decent set of games with a squad that includes EDS graduates who have a genuine opportunity to get into contention.
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Holland pre-season tour... squad on 07:21 - Jul 4 with 4925 views
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