| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 01:35 - Feb 2 with 431 views | Highjack |
List of MP's who voted against if anyone cares.
LABOUR:
Heidi Alexander, Lewisham East
Rushanara Ali, Bethnal Green and Bow
Graham Allen, Nottingham North
Rosena Allin-Khan, Tooting
Luciana Berger, Liverpool Wavertree
Ben Bradshaw, Exeter
Kevin Brennan, Cardiff West
Lyn Brown, West Ham
Chris Bryant, Rhondda
Karen Buck, Westminster North
Dawn Butler, Brent Central
Ruth Cadbury, Brentford and Isleworth
Ann Clwyd, Cynon Valley
Ann Coffey, Stockport
Neil Coyle, Bermondsey and Old Southwark
Mary Creagh, Wakefield
Stella Creasy, Walthamstow
Thangam Debbonaire, Bristol West
Stephen Doughty, Cardiff South and Penarth
Jim Dowd, Lewisham West and Penge
Maria Eagle, Garston and Halewood
Louise Ellman, Liverpool Riverside
Paul Farrelly, Newcastle-under-Lyme
Vicky Foxcroft, Lewisham, Deptford
Mike Gapes, Ilford South
Lilian Greenwood, Nottingham South
Helen Hayes, Dulwich and West Norwood
Meg Hiller, Hackney South and Shoreditch
Rupa Huq, Ealing Central and Acton
Peter Kyle, Hove
David Lammy, Tottenham
Rachael Maskell, York Central
Kerry McCarthy, Bristol East
Catherine McKinnell, Newcastle-upon-Tyne North
Madeleine Moon, Bridgend
Ian Murray, Edinburgh South
Stephen Pound, Ealing North
Virendra Sharma, Ealing Southall
Tulip Siddiq, Hampstead and Kilburn
Andy Slaughter, Hammersmith
Jeff Smith, Manchester Withington
Owen Smith, Pontypridd
Jo Stevens, Cardiff Central
Stephen Timms, East Ham
Catherine West, Hornsey and Wood Green
Alan Whitehead, Southampton Test
Daniel Zeichner, Cambridge
Lib Dems:
Tom Brake, Carshalton and Wallington
Alistair Carmichael, Orkney and Shetland
Nick Clegg, Sheffield Hallam
Tim Farron, Westmorland and Lonsdale
Sarah Olney, Richmond Park
John Pugh, Southport
Mark Williams, Ceredigion
CONSERVATIVES:
Ken Clarke, Rushcliffe
SNP:
Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh, Ochil and South Perthshire
Richard Arkless, Dumfries and Galloway
Hannah Bardell, Livingston
Mhairi Black, Paisley and Renfrewshire South
Ian Blackford, Ross, Sky and Lochaber
Kirstey Blackman, Aberdeen North
Philip Boswell, Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill
Deidre Brock, Edinburgh North and Leith
Alan Brown, KIlmarnock and Loudoun
Lisa Cameron, East Kilbride, Strathaven and Lesmahagow
Douglas Chapman, Dunfermline and West Fife
Joanna Cherry, Edinburgh South West
Ronnie Cowan, Inverclyde
Angela Crawley, Lanark and Hamilton East
Martyn Day, Linlithgow and East Falkirk
Martin Docherty-Hughes, West Dunbartonshire
Stuart Blair Donaldson, West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine
Margaret Ferrier, Rutherglen and Hamilton West
Stephen Gethins, North East Fife
Patricia Gibson, North Ayrshire and Arran
Patrick Grady, Glenrothes
Neil Gray, Aidrie and Shotts
Drew Hendry, Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey
Stewart Hosie, Dundee East
George Kerevan, East Lothian
Calum Kerr, Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk
Chris Law, Dundee West
Angus Brendan MacNeil,
John McNallty, Falkirk
Stewart McDonald, Glasgow South
Stuart McDonald, Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East
Anne McLaughlin, Glasgow North East
Carol Monaghan, Glasgow North West
Paul Monaghan, Cathness, Sutherland and Easter Ross
Roger Mullin, Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath
Gavin Newlands, Paisley and Renfrewshire North
John Nicholson, East Dunbartonshire,
Brendan O'Hara, Argyll and Bute
Kirsten Oswald, East Renfrewshire
Steven Paterson, Stirling
Angus Robertson, Moray
Alex Salmond, Gordon
Tommy Sheppard, Edinburgh East
Chris Stephens, Glasgow South West
Alison Thewliss, Glasgow Central
Mike Weir, Angus
Elidh Whiteford, Banff and Buchan
Philippa Whitford, Central Ayrshire
Pete Wishart, Perth and North Perthshire
Green Party:
Caroline Lucas, Brighton Pavilion
Plaid Cymru:
Liz Saville Roberts, Dwyfor Meirionnydd
Hywel Williams, Arfon
Independent:
Lady Harmon, North Down
Natalie McGarry, Glasgow East
Michella Thomson, Edinburgh West
Social Democratic and Labour Party:
Mark Durkan, Foyle
Alasdair McDonnell, Belfast South
Margaret Ritchie, South Down |  |
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 08:05 - Feb 2 with 388 views | WarwickHunt |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 00:16 - Feb 2 by Kerouac |
In my experience most of the "morons" who voted remain don't know the first thing about the EU, it's institutions or the personalities involved. |
In my experience, most of the "morons" who voted Brexit don't know the first thing about apostrophes. |  | | |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 08:38 - Feb 2 with 365 views | sherpajacob |
Well done stephen doughty for voting against.
I didn't vote for him in 2015, but I probably will now in 2020. |  |
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 09:04 - Feb 2 with 349 views | Lohengrin |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 21:33 - Feb 1 by macthejack |
I've met and seen enough to draw my conclusion that a lot of them are just plain stupid. Equally a lot of them are very intelligent, tricky to put an exact number on how many. Not to say that everyone who voted remain is exactly blessed in the braincell department either.
I guess my over-riding point is the there a f*cking loads of stupid people knocking about and maybe if there weren't so many the would wouldn't be in such a mess. |
The Eugenic argument in a nutshell!  |  |
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 09:50 - Feb 2 with 755 views | londonlisa2001 |
Interesting to see that list of Labour MPs who voted against. Many are London constituencies, London voting overwhelmingly for remain. My MP (Andy Slaughter, who is incidentally a very nice guy, although I didn't vote for him) will have no backlash for voting against for example as H&F voted remain in huge numbers. Same for the Cardiff MP, Manchester and so on.
Seeing that list, it seems that those MPs did largely vote the way their constituents wanted, so not quite sure why the Mail et al, are trying to paint them as traitors to their voters? Only works one way for Mr Dacre it seems. |  | | |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:01 - Feb 2 with 713 views | exiledclaseboy |
If parliament wanted to reflect the views of the people, 48% of them would have voted against the bill last night. It was nowhere near that.
Enemies of the people etc. |  |
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:08 - Feb 2 with 695 views | Lohengrin |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:01 - Feb 2 by exiledclaseboy |
If parliament wanted to reflect the views of the people, 48% of them would have voted against the bill last night. It was nowhere near that.
Enemies of the people etc. |
If Parliament wanted to reflect the views of the people, Clase, hanging would be brought back, we'd have no immigration to speak of, Pullman coaches would be re-introduced on a renationalised British Rail and there would still be designated bars where you could have a fag in peace when its pouring down!
Traitors all! | |
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:19 - Feb 2 with 675 views | sherpajacob |
looking at the list of Mps who voted against.
You have to say only the Scottish Mps fully represented their constituents. With one exception
Scotland voted remain
every Scottish region voted remain.
every Scottish MP (SNP, labour, lib dem, independents) voted against A50, except one - David Mundell _ the only Tory MP in Scotland.
Time the scots took back control. | |
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:19 - Feb 2 with 675 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:08 - Feb 2 by Lohengrin |
If Parliament wanted to reflect the views of the people, Clase, hanging would be brought back, we'd have no immigration to speak of, Pullman coaches would be re-introduced on a renationalised British Rail and there would still be designated bars where you could have a fag in peace when its pouring down!
Traitors all! |
I agree, which is why we have a parliamentary democracy and that referenda are a spectacularly bad idea. Especially when they're only held to lance an internal Tory party boil and to try to halt the rise of UKIP. Neither of which worked. Ho hum. We're stuck with it now. | |
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:23 - Feb 2 with 670 views | Flashberryjack |
The question is which is the biggest moron, the caller or Jason Mohammed. |  |
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:25 - Feb 2 with 669 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:23 - Feb 2 by Flashberryjack |
The question is which is the biggest moron, the caller or Jason Mohammed. |
I haven't heard the call but my answer is Jason Mohammed. Always. | |
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:32 - Feb 2 with 655 views | Lord_Bony |
So as I said last night,big repercussions for Labour and Corbyn over the vote.
"Labour was in turmoil today as Jeremy Corbyn postponed the decision on whether to sack 10 shadow ministers who rebelled over Brexit.
The Labour leader and chief whip Nick Brown will wait at least a week before deciding if there will be reprisals over last night’s vote to trigger Article 50.
Of the 47 Labour rebels, 20 are London MPs, with seven working as shadow ministers. Whip Vicky Foxcroft, who is supposed to enforce party discipline, is also among those who rebelled.
Shadow chancellor John McDonnell said only those in the shadow cabinet who defied Jeremy Corbyn’s instructions would have to quit immediately."
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-chaos-as-jeremy-corbyn-stalls-ove |  |
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:37 - Feb 2 with 643 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:32 - Feb 2 by Lord_Bony |
So as I said last night,big repercussions for Labour and Corbyn over the vote.
"Labour was in turmoil today as Jeremy Corbyn postponed the decision on whether to sack 10 shadow ministers who rebelled over Brexit.
The Labour leader and chief whip Nick Brown will wait at least a week before deciding if there will be reprisals over last night’s vote to trigger Article 50.
Of the 47 Labour rebels, 20 are London MPs, with seven working as shadow ministers. Whip Vicky Foxcroft, who is supposed to enforce party discipline, is also among those who rebelled.
Shadow chancellor John McDonnell said only those in the shadow cabinet who defied Jeremy Corbyn’s instructions would have to quit immediately."
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-chaos-as-jeremy-corbyn-stalls-ove |
Yeah that's not what you said last night. You actually said that Labour would lose 20 MPs, mostly Welsh. Cos you don't understand the difference between between being a shadow minister and an MP. | |
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:41 - Feb 2 with 637 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:25 - Feb 2 by exiledclaseboy |
I haven't heard the call but my answer is Jason Mohammed. Always. |
If the caller was Robbie Savage, it'd be a close run thing.
I've been known to throw things at the TV when Jason Mohammed is on though, so on balance, it'd still be him. Ruined the Olympic coverage having that prat on. | | | |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:42 - Feb 2 with 636 views | Lord_Bony |
Had a few but the gist was troubled times for Corbyn and Labour...not good for the party,more chaos ahead..
May I add I said about 20 nationally not Wales only would lose their positions through sackings and resignations,
Albeit their ministerial positions so if that takes place this week the figure will be about right.
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:43 - Feb 2 with 633 views | nice_to_michu |
I understand the reasons why the rebel MPs voted as they did, but I disagree with them doing it.
Regardless of how their individual constituencies voted, the referendum asked a constituency of ALL of Great Britain, and I believe that Labour will lose credibility if some MPs continue to go against the referendum result.
Was the referendum advisory? Yes. But because of the low information and wilfully ignorant electorate, the nuances of a the legislative process is lost on most people. Consequently, for all intents and purposes, the referendum was mandatory.
Therefore, the left-leaning parties need to make sure they aren't seen as the "enemies" of the working class (who tended to vote Brexit). |  | | |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:47 - Feb 2 with 624 views | Lohengrin |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:43 - Feb 2 by nice_to_michu |
I understand the reasons why the rebel MPs voted as they did, but I disagree with them doing it.
Regardless of how their individual constituencies voted, the referendum asked a constituency of ALL of Great Britain, and I believe that Labour will lose credibility if some MPs continue to go against the referendum result.
Was the referendum advisory? Yes. But because of the low information and wilfully ignorant electorate, the nuances of a the legislative process is lost on most people. Consequently, for all intents and purposes, the referendum was mandatory.
Therefore, the left-leaning parties need to make sure they aren't seen as the "enemies" of the working class (who tended to vote Brexit). |
I would suggest its already the case that most 'working' Labour voters view many of the left's hobby-horses as a comedic freak-show. | |
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:55 - Feb 2 with 609 views | Lord_Bony |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:43 - Feb 2 by nice_to_michu |
I understand the reasons why the rebel MPs voted as they did, but I disagree with them doing it.
Regardless of how their individual constituencies voted, the referendum asked a constituency of ALL of Great Britain, and I believe that Labour will lose credibility if some MPs continue to go against the referendum result.
Was the referendum advisory? Yes. But because of the low information and wilfully ignorant electorate, the nuances of a the legislative process is lost on most people. Consequently, for all intents and purposes, the referendum was mandatory.
Therefore, the left-leaning parties need to make sure they aren't seen as the "enemies" of the working class (who tended to vote Brexit). |
Good post. | |
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:59 - Feb 2 with 602 views | Darran |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:25 - Feb 2 by exiledclaseboy |
I haven't heard the call but my answer is Jason Mohammed. Always. |
Its worth a listen. I reckon it's Oldjack.  |  |
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 12:02 - Feb 2 with 595 views | nice_to_michu |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:47 - Feb 2 by Lohengrin |
I would suggest its already the case that most 'working' Labour voters view many of the left's hobby-horses as a comedic freak-show. |
Yeh much of Corbyn and his inner-circle are complete jokes and are seen as such by large swathes of the working class. | | | |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 12:05 - Feb 2 with 589 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:47 - Feb 2 by Lohengrin |
I would suggest its already the case that most 'working' Labour voters view many of the left's hobby-horses as a comedic freak-show. |
They'll get a nasty shock if they believe that UKIP adequately represents the views of 'working' people. Sadly, they won't care until it's too late.
Disastrous state of U.K. politics at present. The irony of Corbyn causing a mass shift to the right is seemingly lost on him and his cronies. | | | |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 12:10 - Feb 2 with 579 views | Jack_Kass |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 11:01 - Feb 2 by exiledclaseboy |
If parliament wanted to reflect the views of the people, 48% of them would have voted against the bill last night. It was nowhere near that.
Enemies of the people etc. |
Would be interesting to figure out how 48% of one MP could vote against, while the other 52% could vote for, as you know that both votes were counted towards the result, in respective authorities.
Or maybe they should grow a set and realise that the democratic will of the majority over ride their own agendas, fat chance though.
The ones in RCT stand out, slightly concerning considering all three associated with the area, went against the will of their constituents and voted against, for their own good of course.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/10-welsh-mps-who-voted-12544221
Chris Bryant - “I admit that I lost the vote, including in my constituency, but I have not lost my faith.
Rhondda Cynon Taf council area referendum result: Leave: 53.7% / Remain: 46.7% [Post edited 2 Feb 2017 12:11]
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| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 12:10 - Feb 2 with 578 views | nice_to_michu |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 12:05 - Feb 2 by londonlisa2001 |
They'll get a nasty shock if they believe that UKIP adequately represents the views of 'working' people. Sadly, they won't care until it's too late.
Disastrous state of U.K. politics at present. The irony of Corbyn causing a mass shift to the right is seemingly lost on him and his cronies. |
True on both counts. | | | |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 12:15 - Feb 2 with 562 views | Lohengrin |
| Brexit Goes Ahead! on 12:05 - Feb 2 by londonlisa2001 |
They'll get a nasty shock if they believe that UKIP adequately represents the views of 'working' people. Sadly, they won't care until it's too late.
Disastrous state of U.K. politics at present. The irony of Corbyn causing a mass shift to the right is seemingly lost on him and his cronies. |
As I take the political temperature in work on a regualr basis I get the distinct impression an increasing amount of working folk are arriving at the conclusion that nobody represents them.
'No-one likes them'..... but they DO care. | |
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