| Ntcham off to Turkey?? 17:43 - Jul 30 with 9620 views | theloneranger |
Rough translation ...
Samsunspor reached an agreement with Olivier Ntcham wearing the Swansea shirt.
• The player will be in Istanbul on Wednesday to sign a contract. |  |
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| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 17:49 - Jul 30 with 3925 views | magicdaps10 |
Makes sense, getting a few players in and one is going out at a rumoured 3M.
It's how the board works. |  |
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| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 17:53 - Jul 30 with 3911 views | Thornburyswan |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 17:49 - Jul 30 by magicdaps10 |
Makes sense, getting a few players in and one is going out at a rumoured 3M.
It's how the board works. |
Plus he’s in the last year of his contract like JP. |  | | |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 17:55 - Jul 30 with 3903 views | blackpooljack |
Had a lot more bad days than good 3m would be teriffic business | | | |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 17:58 - Jul 30 with 3888 views | Dr_Winston |
By some distance our most technically capable midfielder and now it looks like we're finally going to be playing him through the middle after two wasted years it'll be a shame if he leaves now.
Still, the contract situation is always going to be an issue. |  |
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| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 18:03 - Jul 30 with 3863 views | Fireboy2 |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 17:58 - Jul 30 by Dr_Winston |
By some distance our most technically capable midfielder and now it looks like we're finally going to be playing him through the middle after two wasted years it'll be a shame if he leaves now.
Still, the contract situation is always going to be an issue. |
Totally agree Doc, he's got better and better, I will be gutted if he goes. |  | | |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 18:10 - Jul 30 with 3826 views | shandyjack |
£3m and £26k roughly off the wage bill. Should help us get in an additional player to replace him |  |
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| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 18:12 - Jul 30 with 3813 views | jasper_T |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 18:10 - Jul 30 by shandyjack |
£3m and £26k roughly off the wage bill. Should help us get in an additional player to replace him |
Or badly needed cash and savings in a position we're already overstocked in. | | | |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 18:18 - Jul 30 with 3788 views | Dr_Winston |
Easy enough to say that we're overstocked. How many other midfielders do we have that can do what he does?
Steady Eddie deep midfielders we've got a few of. Genuine creative options who can also drive play forward are in very short supply. | |
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| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 18:26 - Jul 30 with 3750 views | shandyjack |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 18:12 - Jul 30 by jasper_T |
Or badly needed cash and savings in a position we're already overstocked in. |
I’m not so sure we are overstocked in that position TBf, especially with Walsh and Allen’s injury records | |
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| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 18:28 - Jul 30 with 3749 views | magicdaps10 |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 18:18 - Jul 30 by Dr_Winston |
Easy enough to say that we're overstocked. How many other midfielders do we have that can do what he does?
Steady Eddie deep midfielders we've got a few of. Genuine creative options who can also drive play forward are in very short supply. |
Agreed.
Who else is a strong creative 10 able to chip in with a few goals in our squad? | |
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| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 18:29 - Jul 30 with 3740 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 18:18 - Jul 30 by Dr_Winston |
Easy enough to say that we're overstocked. How many other midfielders do we have that can do what he does?
Steady Eddie deep midfielders we've got a few of. Genuine creative options who can also drive play forward are in very short supply. |
At £25k a week he should be the club's best player. He should also be a star turn every week turning draws into wins.
I do not recall too many occasions when he did this. One year left cash in and give Watson some money to spend. Gustavo Hamer similar to him and he drove them to the play offs. |  |
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| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 18:30 - Jul 30 with 3739 views | jasper_T |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 18:26 - Jul 30 by shandyjack |
I’m not so sure we are overstocked in that position TBf, especially with Walsh and Allen’s injury records |
Grimes, Fulton, Allen, Walsh, Cooper, Paterson and Abdulai based on Duff's preseason selections. Grimes doesn't miss football so that's four fighting over two spots even when Allen and Walsh are both unavailable. | | | |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 19:02 - Jul 30 with 3610 views | Whiterockin |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 18:10 - Jul 30 by shandyjack |
£3m and £26k roughly off the wage bill. Should help us get in an additional player to replace him |
£3M banked and a decent loan in to replace plus a saving of £10-15K a week would make sense. |  | | |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 19:05 - Jul 30 with 3597 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 18:30 - Jul 30 by jasper_T |
Grimes, Fulton, Allen, Walsh, Cooper, Paterson and Abdulai based on Duff's preseason selections. Grimes doesn't miss football so that's four fighting over two spots even when Allen and Walsh are both unavailable. |
To be honest, I'd get rid of Paterson. he's been so patchy since his little spat I think we're better off without. I'd have used his wages to offer Ntcham an increase. | | | |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 19:19 - Jul 30 with 3524 views | RichardO |
Contracts and money issues having a big impact, Downes sold last year, Ntcham and Piroe on their way means we will be struggling to replace the strength in the squad we had the previously seasons, let alone increasing it.
Does that now mean we need 6/7 players in?
Anybody know what the team will be next Saturday? | | | |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 19:30 - Jul 30 with 3462 views | raynor94 |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 19:19 - Jul 30 by RichardO |
Contracts and money issues having a big impact, Downes sold last year, Ntcham and Piroe on their way means we will be struggling to replace the strength in the squad we had the previously seasons, let alone increasing it.
Does that now mean we need 6/7 players in?
Anybody know what the team will be next Saturday? |
We need to sell players, it's the way of the world, we are losing around a million a month, so have to be canny.
Yesterday was arguably our strongest 11, Ntcham leaving 4 coming in.
So do expect a couple of changes |  |
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| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 19:39 - Jul 30 with 3412 views | RichardO |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 19:30 - Jul 30 by raynor94 |
We need to sell players, it's the way of the world, we are losing around a million a month, so have to be canny.
Yesterday was arguably our strongest 11, Ntcham leaving 4 coming in.
So do expect a couple of changes |
I know but it doesn't help the mood swings while trying to keep some perspective.
Really looking forward to the game on Saturday and the start of the new season.  | | | |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 19:45 - Jul 30 with 3386 views | Dr_Winston |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 19:30 - Jul 30 by raynor94 |
We need to sell players, it's the way of the world, we are losing around a million a month, so have to be canny.
Yesterday was arguably our strongest 11, Ntcham leaving 4 coming in.
So do expect a couple of changes |
We were losing a million a month during the period covered by the last set of accounts. We won't know until the next set of accounts come out if we still are.
I would hope that deficit has been decreased somewhat by then. | |
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| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 19:45 - Jul 30 with 3386 views | guthrieintherain |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 17:58 - Jul 30 by Dr_Winston |
By some distance our most technically capable midfielder and now it looks like we're finally going to be playing him through the middle after two wasted years it'll be a shame if he leaves now.
Still, the contract situation is always going to be an issue. |
27k a week our highest earner that's 1.3 million a year.
Plus the 3 million coming into the club if that fee is true it's a very good deal for the club.
I really rated him as well on his day our most giftes midfielder by a mile.
But we need to buld for the future and if that means getting someone else in on 10k a week on a 3 year deal so be it. | |
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| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 19:57 - Jul 30 with 3333 views | jasper_T |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 19:05 - Jul 30 by SullutaCreturned |
To be honest, I'd get rid of Paterson. he's been so patchy since his little spat I think we're better off without. I'd have used his wages to offer Ntcham an increase. |
The hope should be that now his co-spatter is gone he gets a chance to return to previous form (9 goals 9 assists in 38 games). Maybe he doesn't suit Duff's high energy grindset, but then neither does Ntcham really.
Ntcham was at his best playing deeper alongside Grimes, even if he were to stay we'd still want that midfielder to get in around the strikers (if Cooper and Paterson aren't considered sufficient). As a 10 he was generally poor. No idea why someone would want to make him by far our highest earner to hang on to him. | | | |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 20:03 - Jul 30 with 3306 views | Badlands |
Oh dear ☹️ |  |
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| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 20:05 - Jul 30 with 3296 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 19:57 - Jul 30 by jasper_T |
The hope should be that now his co-spatter is gone he gets a chance to return to previous form (9 goals 9 assists in 38 games). Maybe he doesn't suit Duff's high energy grindset, but then neither does Ntcham really.
Ntcham was at his best playing deeper alongside Grimes, even if he were to stay we'd still want that midfielder to get in around the strikers (if Cooper and Paterson aren't considered sufficient). As a 10 he was generally poor. No idea why someone would want to make him by far our highest earner to hang on to him. |
No idea? Well we all have different opinions eh. Still, I'd keep Ntcham over Paterson because Ntcham is a better player and he hasn't caused any grief, as far as I know. | | | |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 20:09 - Jul 30 with 3250 views | jojaca |
I feel a bit deflated if Ntcham goes, I think he's key player in our quest for promotion. No one has that ability in the squad to pull the trigger from 25/30 yards. Your not going to get much creativity and goals from the rest of the current midfield and Ollie Cooper is not the answer. |  |
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| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 20:15 - Jul 30 with 3224 views | swan_si |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 19:45 - Jul 30 by guthrieintherain |
27k a week our highest earner that's 1.3 million a year.
Plus the 3 million coming into the club if that fee is true it's a very good deal for the club.
I really rated him as well on his day our most giftes midfielder by a mile.
But we need to buld for the future and if that means getting someone else in on 10k a week on a 3 year deal so be it. |
According to Planet Swans, the suggested fee is £1.75m
https://planetswans.co.uk/2023/07/30/ntcham-to-depart-agreement-with-samsunspor/ |  | | |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 20:16 - Jul 30 with 3217 views | Dr_Winston |
| Ntcham off to Turkey?? on 20:09 - Jul 30 by jojaca |
I feel a bit deflated if Ntcham goes, I think he's key player in our quest for promotion. No one has that ability in the squad to pull the trigger from 25/30 yards. Your not going to get much creativity and goals from the rest of the current midfield and Ollie Cooper is not the answer. |
Cooper will have a role to play but in terms of natural ability he's streets behind Oli. For me, until newer additions have proven themselves, Ntcham is second only to Piroe in terms of the threat he offers us going forward.
Really quite surprised to see Jasper, about as good a judge of a player as you can get in these parts be so dismissive of him. I think we'd do very well indeed to find an adequate replacement, especially now that he's not having to work his way in from out wide. | |
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